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OfflineLSDreams
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Re: Marijuana Damages Brain for Life, Study [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #19283675 - 12/16/13 12:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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PurpleHaze147 said:
Smoking weed daily does clog up the synapses of ur brain since THC is so lipophilic (dissolves in fat easily). This does effect memory and other cognitive functions but it does clear up with time. I wouldn't say it damages ur brain, it inhibits it's maximum potential. It's not nearly as bad as alcohol tho





Lol what?

Care to explain how THC clogs up synapses to a neuroscience major?



I thought that sounded kinda strange too, lol.


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Re: Marijuana Damages Brain for Life, Study [Re: KingKnowledge] * 1
    #19283751 - 12/16/13 12:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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KingKnowledge said:
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PurpleHaze147 said:
Smoking weed daily does clog up the synapses of ur brain since THC is so lipophilic (dissolves in fat easily). This does effect memory and other cognitive functions but it does clear up with time. I wouldn't say it damages ur brain, it inhibits it's maximum potential. It's not nearly as bad as alcohol tho





Lol what?

Care to explain how THC clogs up synapses to a neuroscience major?




Makes the action potential all lazy, doesn't want to get up off the couch, never mind rapidly rise and fall.


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Re: Marijuana Damages Brain for Life, Study [Re: LSDreams]
    #19283755 - 12/16/13 12:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I googled "Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine" and it's in Chicago. 

I wonder if they cared to make a similar study on the effects of heavy teenage adderall use and how it changes brain neurophysiology after cessation...??  and consider public schools are practically forcing ADHD treatments on families by the boatload.



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Re: Marijuana Damages Brain for Life, Study [Re: LSDreams]
    #19283790 - 12/16/13 12:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ugh, crap science reporting is crap.
The study press release,
"The brain abnormalities and memory problems were observed during the individuals' early twenties, two years after they stopped smoking marijuana, which could indicate the long-term effects of chronic use. Memory-related structures in their brains appeared to shrink and collapse inward, possibly reflecting a decrease in neurons."
Becomes,
"The habit of smoking pot during teen years causes long-term brain damage, according to a Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine study."

In a new study released today, the habits of modern journalism decrease users reading ability by at least 2-3 grade levels.
Remember kids, don't do journalism, it makes you stupid.


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Re: Marijuana Damages Brain for Life, Study [Re: StygianKnight] * 2
    #19283854 - 12/16/13 01:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You gotta take the good with the bad. I love how everyone is cheering and agreeable when there is a posituve study on cannabis, then when a study is published that is even remotely negative everyone is all up in arms about it calling foul. Personally Im skeptical about everything but I try not to let my personal activites and interests introduce bias when it comes to science.


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Re: Marijuana Damages Brain for Life, Study [Re: StygianKnight]
    #19283861 - 12/16/13 01:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ok so wait . .  You are telling me marijuana affects the memory!?!?!?

Holy Shit! That is some news right there! we to get this out there and make people aware!!!


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Re: Marijuana Damages Brain for Life, Study [Re: niteman] * 1
    #19283866 - 12/16/13 01:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It's because the vast majority of anti-marijuana research is straight up propaganda, and though the knee-jerk reaction is never ideal, it's definitely understandable why a lot of marijuana users have this reaction.


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Re: Marijuana Damages Brain for Life, Study [Re: niteman]
    #19283879 - 12/16/13 01:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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In a new study released today, the habits of modern journalism decrease users reading ability by at least 2-3 grade levels.
Remember kids, don't do journalism, it makes you stupid.





:lol:

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You gotta take the good with the bad. I love how everyone is cheering and agreeable when there is a posituve study on cannabis, then when a study is published that is even remotely negative everyone is all up in arms about it calling foul. Personally Im skeptical about everything but I try not to let my personal activites and interests introduce bias when it comes to science.





:fuckyou:


just kidding-- you have a valid point and while the studies are interesting and possibly full of truthiness they are obviously presented in a very biased and slanted manner.  Where are all the studies concerning teen drinking and it's effects??  or the effects of heavily processed foods that are the only menu option in most public school cafeterias? 

I dont doubt that smoking a lot of weed changes brain chemistry but so does drinking a  lot of coffee and I hate seeing studies such as these used as a weapon of intolerance.


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Re: Marijuana Damages Brain for Life, Study [Re: shivas.wisdom]
    #19283894 - 12/16/13 01:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That is the biggest problem with drug laws/research in general. WAYYYYY too much bias.

I will never say any drug is necessarily "good" for everyone but there are several drugs that are definitely not "bad" for anyone. Most research slants one way or the other, needs to actually be independent and unbiased so we can see what the actually effects of a lot of these compounds are and not just have to go by people's unscientific experiences.


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Re: Marijuana Damages Brain for Life, Study [Re: Smushroom] * 1
    #19284129 - 12/16/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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but there are several drugs that are definitely not "bad" for anyone.





Such as?


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Re: Marijuana Damages Brain for Life, Study [Re: DrugsRGood]
    #19284130 - 12/16/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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For the study, Smith's team compared MRI scans of a controlled group (44) with 10 people with cannabis use disorder, 15 with cannabis use disorder and a diagnosis of schizophrenia, and 28 with schizophrenia but no reported use of marijuana in the past.




:rolleyes:

Not big enough study, invalid.


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Re: Marijuana Damages Brain for Life, Study [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19284163 - 12/16/13 02:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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"With the movement to decriminalize marijuana, we need more research to understand its effect on the brain."



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The abuse of popular street drugs, such as marijuana, may have dangerous implications for young people who are developing or have developed mental disorders," said co-senior study author John Csernansky, M.D., chair of psychiatry and behavioral sciences at Northwestern University Feinberg School of Medicine and Northwestern Memorial Hospital. "This paper is among the first to reveal that the use of marijuana may contribute to the changes in brain structure that have been associated with having schizophrenia."




Yeah, try to be as objective as possible...
This study is a piece of shit. 
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For the study, Smith's team compared MRI scans of a controlled group (44) with 10 people with cannabis use disorder, 15 with cannabis use disorder and a diagnosis of schizophrenia, and 28 with schizophrenia but no reported use of marijuana in the past.



10 people?  Looks like they found what they wanted to with this study.


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Re: Marijuana Damages Brain for Life, Study [Re: fapjack]
    #19284236 - 12/16/13 02:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What is "cannabis use disorder"?? Because I think i'm suffering from that. :kidsmirk:


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Re: Marijuana Damages Brain for Life, Study [Re: niteman]
    #19284271 - 12/16/13 02:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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niteman said:
You gotta take the good with the bad. I love how everyone is cheering and agreeable when there is a posituve study on cannabis, then when a study is published that is even remotely negative everyone is all up in arms about it calling foul. Personally Im skeptical about everything but I try not to let my personal activites and interests introduce bias when it comes to science.



Yes, because we don't automatically agree with studies like these, were all biased morons.


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Re: Marijuana Damages Brain for Life, Study [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #19284332 - 12/16/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

President Reagan is still alive to push the ol' H-bomb schtick, eh? Nice.


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Re: Marijuana Damages Brain for Life, Study [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
    #19284341 - 12/16/13 02:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What about if the kid was like 6 years old?  That's got to do something to the brain.


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Re: Marijuana Damages Brain for Life, Study [Re: sunshine]
    #19284520 - 12/16/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

They should be doing (probably are) long term studies on children smoking medical marijuana in states that allow it.


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Re: Marijuana Damages Brain for Life, Study [Re: sunshine]
    #19284550 - 12/16/13 03:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Speaking of Biases, this study was funded by the National Institute of Drug Abuse.
"As the National Institute on Drug Abuse, our focus is primarily on the negative consequences of marijuana use, We generally do not fund research focused on the potential beneficial medical effects of marijuana." - National Institute of Drug Abuse

So basically you must show dangers of marijuana if you want to keep your funding.
Government propaganda science!


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Re: Marijuana Damages Brain for Life, Study [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19284732 - 12/16/13 04:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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but there are several drugs that are definitely not "bad" for anyone.





Such as?




I should have said everyone instead of anyone. There are definitely specific cases in which any drug can be harmful to someone.

If you take weed as an example there are definitely cases where it can be beneficial to someone, and there are a handful of cases in which a person shouldn't smoke it because of adverse reactions, but for the majority of people I would say the health effects are mostly inconclusive since there is so much bias and too much conflicting research to draw accurate conclusions.

Same goes for hullicinogens, for the majority of cases I wouldn't rule them as "bad" in the way the media/government would.


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Re: Marijuana Damages Brain for Life, Study [Re: Smushroom]
    #19284755 - 12/16/13 04:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It affects reasoning such as,

choosing to watch the news and listen to the media while sober
and knowing its all bs while under the influence of marijuana


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