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Level 5 trip on shrooms? Good or bad?
    #19281420 - 12/15/13 09:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I have never taken mushrooms or any hallucinogenics alike... yet. I recently started growing my own mushrooms and I've been looking around for dosages and I came upon the trip levels. So far what I've read so far most people usually take an eight for a good trip but according to the dosage calculator that only brings you to a level 4 trip, so is level 5 trip not a nice experience? Is it something you shouldn't reach or..?
My plan is go easy and start off by eating half an eight the first time, a whole eight the second time, and im not sure if I should go for more.
Comments from people who experienced level 5 would be awesome!!


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Re: Level 5 trip on shrooms? Good or bad? [Re: bolbol]
    #19281472 - 12/15/13 09:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

go in easy man... in my opinion strong mushroom trips can be very terrifying ecspecially to a un experienced tripper like you say you are... id start with half an eigth then up the dose a little each time like you said you are going to do and when you think you are ready then prepare youself to go on a journey and have a level 5 trip

level 5 trips are absolutely insane and your ego just ceases to exist and sheds away.. you have impossible realizations about you and the universe and you can come to think that everything you ever thought has been wrong the whole time


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Re: Level 5 trip on shrooms? Good or bad? [Re: bolbol]
    #19281496 - 12/15/13 09:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The trip level thing is really subjective, but these kinds of trips don't just happen because you took a specific dose. Ate a dry 8th and just rode my board around all day tripping. Ate an 8th that I thought was a little wet, but it made me have quite the experience. My point is that your mindset is 80% of a trip and dose is the other 20%.

My first time with psychedelics was on 1/2 8th of mushies and it was still quite wonderful. Not a "level 4/5" but still a great way to get my feet wet. In future trips, I accidentally went into a "level 4" and had quite a spiritual experience without trying. Tried to see if the results were replicable, and it seemed the more I tried to have such an experience the more resistance I met.

My advice for a beginner, take a 1/2 8th or a full 8th and have as little expectations as you can. Don't judge and say "this isn't what I was expecting". Just sit back and enjoy what does happen, it may be more than you think will happen if you let go.


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Re: Level 5 trip on shrooms? Good or bad? [Re: Godfather1376]
    #19281514 - 12/15/13 09:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So basically a level 5 trip is similar to what a DMT experience feels like?


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Re: Level 5 trip on shrooms? Good or bad? [Re: Taybs]
    #19281524 - 12/15/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

In a way
Level 5 is way too much and may scare you away from mushies forever. A level 5 mush trip is an intense ego death which is not something I feel unexpected trippers should go through or can handle. Do bout an 8th and you will have a stellar time


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Re: Level 5 trip on shrooms? Good or bad? [Re: bolbol]
    #19281527 - 12/15/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

ive never done DMT but the psilocybin molecule is pretty much similar to DMT in that there is a phorphorus group attached to the 4 postition on the molecule....

you should read this fellow shroomerites essay he wrote about a level 5 trip of his.

http://www.wedietorememberwhatwelivetoforget.com/files/We_Die_to_Remember_What_We_Live_to_Forget.pdf


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Re: Level 5 trip on shrooms? Good or bad? [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #19281536 - 12/15/13 10:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Level 5 is amazing
If your prepared.... It's not for everyone

Higher the dose, more important is Set and Setting


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Re: Level 5 trip on shrooms? Good or bad? [Re: HarryL]
    #19281881 - 12/15/13 11:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

HarryL said:
Level 5 is amazing
If your prepared.... It's not for everyone

Higher the dose, more important is Set and Setting




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Re: Level 5 trip on shrooms? Good or bad? [Re: spixce]
    #19282360 - 12/16/13 03:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've had a level 3-4 trip on mushrooms a couple of times and i decided that's where i would draw the line.

For me personally, the experience starts to get a bit too intense and this little voice inside my head starts to say "fuck...i wouldn't want this to go any further".

But that's just me. i think anything higher and like others have said - set and setting are very important.


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Re: Level 5 trip on shrooms? Good or bad? [Re: anguila]
    #19282698 - 12/16/13 07:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

7+ grams for level 5, you shouldn't even debate attempting it until you are very experienced.


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Re: Level 5 trip on shrooms? Good or bad? [Re: anguila]
    #19282703 - 12/16/13 07:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Once you get to a full blown level 5 experience, its not so much a "good" or "bad" experience anymore.  Most of the time things get incredibly bizarre.  To me mushrooms may be the weirdest one of them all at high doses.
You can't argue with it. There is no escape.  The visuals take over your everything. Eventually "you" stop being.  All takes over.  Then whether or not you "like" it isn't an issue anymore.


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Re: Level 5 trip on shrooms? Good or bad? [Re: TheGreenArrow]
    #19282737 - 12/16/13 08:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

fuck dude it changed my way of thinking entirely.. once you step in the door flies off the hinges. beware approach with caution.

you've been warned.


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Re: Level 5 trip on shrooms? Good or bad? [Re: Deathcore]
    #19282744 - 12/16/13 08:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Deathcore said:
once you step in the door flies off the hinges. beware approach with caution.

you've been warned.




:lol: You beat me to it


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Re: Level 5 trip on shrooms? Good or bad? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #19282806 - 12/16/13 08:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I wouldn't go that high because for me level  4 -solo especially- feels very similar to DMT and hyperspace! Therefore if I want that kind of thing I will opt for a psychologically much less risky -shorter duration- oral DMT experience. Its really not a good thing to take a high dose of shrooms or acid, get scared early on, and then realize that the experience is going to last for hours! 

DMT is without doubt the safest way to experience the extreme outer bounds of the psychedelic experience as not only is the duration so short but the power and ferocity is such that the user is utterly immobilized! In short even if you want to warn the word about demonic aliens from out of space you simply won't be able to!


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Re: Level 5 trip on shrooms? Good or bad? [Re: wolf8312]
    #19282920 - 12/16/13 09:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

There is no pause button. There is no going back. Just know you will live and it is temporary. I woulnt recommend jumping off the diving board the first time you swim. 2-3.5 grams is enough to test the waters.


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Re: Level 5 trip on shrooms? Good or bad? [Re: Smeagol]
    #19282943 - 12/16/13 09:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If you want to experience death without actually dieing then try to reach level 5 I highly recommend a sober sitter seriously. I actually like the experience its just hard to not loose your shit and call the paramedics lol. If I take over 10g I have my baby momma spend the night to help me from doing somthing stupid.


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Re: Level 5 trip on shrooms? Good or bad? [Re: T-Funkadelic]
    #19283119 - 12/16/13 10:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I agree with everything that has already been said.

My advise to people new to psychedelics is to start out by taking a gram and increase the dosage by a half gram every time you trip. I think this is the most gentle way to become familiar and comfortable with the experience. This way you get the feel of the idiosyncrasies of each particular dose, and can gain an appreciation for the lower doses, which IMHO are way under-rated on these forums.

Also levels 1-4 are pretty much dose dependant, but level 5 isn't nessecarily. You are much more likely to have a level 5 experience on higher doses but it isn't guaranteed (at least up to a point anyway). I have had a level 5 experience on 4g, and have had a really intense level 4 expereince on 7g. Set and setting is important for making that final leap.


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Re: Level 5 trip on shrooms? Good or bad? [Re: FrozenHappiness]
    #19283169 - 12/16/13 10:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

If the goal is ego death/level 5, don't be active and in a chaotic environment with lots of distractions, attaining level 5 is very much dependent on your being able to go deep inside yourself, and as some have said this is somewhat of a skill that you learn over the course of your tripping career so it's best to gradually up the dosage until you get there.  It is also very dependent on your being alone in the dark with your eyes closed and meditating, as you will never have "level 5" if you're hanging out with friends watching TV or out in a field dancing around like a maniac. 

I've had level 5 breakthroughs during the peak with doses as low as 2g of p. ovoideocystidiate, granted they are much more potent than cubensis.  Take 5g of cubensis, put some tunes on and lie alone in the dark meditating and you will likely leave your body, explore outer space, see the ugly face of God then witness your body dying and your soul turning to light.  I don't recommend a babysitter as they will just distract you from your meditation.  If you think there's a chance you'll flip out and hurt yourself if you're alone, then you aren't ready for level 5.


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Re: Level 5 trip on shrooms? Good or bad? [Re: RiparianZoneJunky]
    #19283280 - 12/16/13 11:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

In my experience I would have many trips small and large to build up the confidence. Make sure you know how you handle them. I have had a few "true" level 5 trips(good and bad) and it will completely change your look on life. I had a trip that almost killed my love for mushies. Just have fun with it and don't get too serious with it. As previously stated, you were warned.

Have fun man


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Re: Level 5 trip on shrooms? Good or bad? [Re: bolbol]
    #19283325 - 12/16/13 11:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

if you want level 5 try smoking DMT i can't imagine staying in that state for 6 hours but then again im not that experienced with tryptamines


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