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Re: Finally, proof that men are more logical than women [Re: Mescalean]
#19284372 - 12/16/13 02:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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OP- What do you men finally? This has been a well known fact for many years, why do you think men get paid more.
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Re: Finally, proof that men are more logical than women [Re: badchad]
#19284393 - 12/16/13 03:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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badchad said: What is the distribution of the final grades?
Distribution of final grades and distribution of sex in the class are both absolutely imperative to make your statistics hold any value whatsoever.
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Re: Finally, proof that men are more logical than women [Re: volcomstoner]
#19284610 - 12/16/13 03:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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volcomstoner said: OP- What do you men finally? This has been a well known fact for many years, why do you think men get paid more.
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Re: Finally, proof that men are more logical than women [Re: morrowasted]
#19284781 - 12/16/13 04:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I agree 100%.
Hormones are drugs and they do effect the mind. Trust me, I know better than most.
Men are much more logical in general than women.
The brain structure of a man differs from that of a women. Women are stronger socially, men are stronger logically. Men work their right and left sides of their brains rather independantly compared to women. This allows a man to see things in black and white more easily, women can get overwhelmed by nuances of a situation due to information overload. Women are better at multitasking in general, men are generally better at focusing on one thing at a time. Both have clear advantages and disadvantages. Men can see women as indecisive, women can see men as simple minded.
In simple terms, men are based in fight or flight, and women have another option available to them, empathy. This can change everything, for a woman, even conflict is not always black and white. A woman is more likely to side with someone, not because they are right but rather, because the woman is able to understand where the other is coming from.
A man sees in black and white and a woman sees in color, if you will. There are advantages to both. Black and white, right or wrong, fight or flight... logic. Color is much more nuanced and complex but it can seem quite trite to someone driven by logic.
Men tend to rely on logic so it can be mind blowing when half the world's population operates differently. That said, being less logical works for half the world's population, so perhaps logic is over rated.
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Re: Finally, proof that men are more logical than women [Re: Rose]
#19284791 - 12/16/13 04:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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A grad level logic class I took part of (Philosophy dept) had only 1 girl in it out of like 20 people.
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Re: Finally, proof that men are more logical than women [Re: st1llnox]
#19284797 - 12/16/13 04:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Finally, proof that men are more logical than women [Re: morrowasted]
#19284813 - 12/16/13 04:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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morrowasted said: So I am a logic tutor at my uni and the semester is coming to a close and I just counted up the hours for the whole semester in the log book. Females have signed in for 132 hours worth of logic tutoring altogether. Men have signed in for 3.
If that is not proof, ladies and gentlemen, I don't know what is.
IME there is less of a stigma or inhibition for women to ask for help in any given situation. But who knows, like others have said it's hard to know what this means without knowing the actual grades of the classes in question
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Re: Finally, proof that men are more logical than women [Re: morrowasted]
#19284824 - 12/16/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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morrowasted said: So I am a logic tutor at my uni and the semester is coming to a close and I just counted up the hours for the whole semester in the log book. Females have signed in for 132 hours worth of logic tutoring altogether. Men have signed in for 3.
If that is not proof, ladies and gentlemen, I don't know what is.
This seems like a small amount of correlational data. You can't really claim that you have proof. There is always an outlier.
Can you explain more about your tutoring and your statistical analysis?
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Re: Finally, proof that men are more logical than women [Re: XUL]
#19284851 - 12/16/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ironically his is not a logical conclusion. It is however, correct and science backs it up.
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Re: Finally, proof that men are more logical than women [Re: Rose]
#19284853 - 12/16/13 04:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cervantes said: Ironically his is not a logical conclusion. It is however, correct and science backs it up.
How do you figure? Reference?
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Re: Finally, proof that men are more logical than women [Re: XUL]
#19284924 - 12/16/13 04:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here is a quick start. I really could dig deeper but no time. So forgive the slightly imperfect links provided.
Fight flight empathy: https://www.scimednet.org/empathy-and-morality/
Brain structures of men and women: http://neurorelay.com/2012/10/07/female-brain-versus-male-brain/
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Re: Finally, proof that men are more logical than women [Re: Rose]
#19285111 - 12/16/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cervantes said: Here is a quick start. I really could dig deeper but no time. So forgive the slightly imperfect links provided.
Fight flight empathy: https://www.scimednet.org/empathy-and-morality/
Brain structures of men and women: http://neurorelay.com/2012/10/07/female-brain-versus-male-brain/
I read your second reference and it seems to undermine your belief that men are logically superior.
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Frontal Cortex Responsible for much of our decision making ability, it is fatter and more complex in women. Some neuroscientists believe that women are hard-wired to be better decision-makers and problem-solvers.
I have read a lot of this evidence before and a lot of research points to the fact that men are typically more violent, or at least the research seems to focus on that aspect these days.
All this research comes with a consequence I think. If you can prove that a man statistically more likely to abuse other people then what does that say about equal rights?
One example is in the agency I work for. Ever since the mentally challenged peoples exit from mental hospitals and assimilation into therapeutic homes in our neighborhood I have witnessed a very strange thing happen. Women are permitted to bathe male and female "patients" while men are only able to bathe male clients.
Who cares right?
But the question that bothers me is how did this inequality come to exist in the first place? Was the inequality created by statistical data? Or perhaps by the norms of our society?
But I am just playing the devil's advocate. If men are truly more likely to be abusive or violent, then so be it.
I just don't like when the truth is covered up. Inequalities such as the one I mentioned make a company unequal which means that it should be advertised as such.
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Re: Finally, proof that men are more logical than women [Re: XUL]
#19285207 - 12/16/13 05:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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How? It literally states men have more of the logical portion of the brain. It basically confirms what I said a few posts ago.
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Re: Finally, proof that men are more logical than women [Re: XUL]
#19285299 - 12/16/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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XUL said:
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morrowasted said: So I am a logic tutor at my uni and the semester is coming to a close and I just counted up the hours for the whole semester in the log book. Females have signed in for 132 hours worth of logic tutoring altogether. Men have signed in for 3.
If that is not proof, ladies and gentlemen, I don't know what is.
This seems like a small amount of correlational data. You can't really claim that you have proof. There is always an outlier.
Can you explain more about your tutoring and your statistical analysis?
It's tutoring in propositional/ predicate(incl. quantified and modal) symbolic formal logics. It's hard to explain unless you're familiar with formal logic. Each one breaks down language in a different way and uses inference rules to see if a statement follows from a given set of statements.
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Re: Finally, proof that men are more logical than women [Re: morrowasted]
#19285313 - 12/16/13 06:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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morrowasted said: So I am a logic tutor at my uni
wuts a logic tutor?
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Re: Finally, proof that men are more logical than women [Re: morrowasted]
#19285550 - 12/16/13 07:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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morrowasted said:It's tutoring in propositional/ predicate(incl. quantified and modal) symbolic formal logics. It's hard to explain unless you're familiar with formal logic. Each one breaks down language in a different way and uses inference rules to see if a statement follows from a given set of statements.
Thats a pretty fancy way of saying , "hmm sounds about right.".
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Re: Finally, proof that men are more logical than women [Re: Rose]
#19285599 - 12/16/13 07:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cervantes said: How? It literally states men have more of the logical portion of the brain. It basically confirms what I said a few posts ago.
I think logic and decision making run parallel to each other.
I am no professional but I know the frontal cortex is associated with reasoning which could encompass logic and reason.
There is too much to be said. Nothing here is truth. More research needs to be done in my opinion and many extraneous variable need to be addressed. Hell, evolutionary psychologists might tell you that the brain has evolved over time.
I am not convinced.
I need to read the experiments that were done in order to find this data.
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Re: Finally, proof that men are more logical than women [Re: XUL]
#19285683 - 12/16/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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So what girls process theyre enviroment diffrently than guys do neither one is smarter but if i had to guess id say a girl would get better grades a guy would invent something amazing.
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Re: Finally, proof that men are more logical than women [Re: r00tuuu123]
#19285828 - 12/16/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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morrowasted said:It's tutoring in propositional/ predicate(incl. quantified and modal) symbolic formal logics. It's hard to explain unless you're familiar with formal logic. Each one breaks down language in a different way and uses inference rules to see if a statement follows from a given set of statements.
Thats a pretty fancy way of saying , "hmm sounds about right.". 
the study of many generations worth of agreement in doing so, actually
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Re: Finally, proof that men are more logical than women [Re: morrowasted]
#19285868 - 12/16/13 08:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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