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Re: Snow in Egypt [Re: andrewmurray86]
    #19280648 - 12/15/13 06:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No fucking way will I ever get a Twitter account.

Do you have any idea how much money Al Gore has made from Globullshit Warming?  He is not alone.

I got you on the phone thing though.  I understand how difficult it is


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Re: Snow in Egypt [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19280679 - 12/15/13 06:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hey just quickly... What are your views?

Just to clarify so I don't waste time with articles that aren't relevant...
You seem to recognise GW as being real but not convinced of the anthropogenic aspects. Would that be right?


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Re: Snow in Egypt [Re: zappaisgod]
    #19280698 - 12/15/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Twitter is pretty cool if you're interested in a musician's tour dates and releases. Any specific person you enjoy, celebrity or no, probably has a twitter. Even companies you want to focus on for deals and stuff can be followed. You can customize the flow of information in whatever way you see fit.


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Re: Snow in Egypt [Re: andrewmurray86]
    #19280700 - 12/15/13 07:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think the overwhelming effector of our climate is 93 million miles away.  I absolutely do not believe that increasing the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere from 0.03% to 0.04% means dick.  Nor am I convinced that human activity has caused that but at least it is plausible.


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Re: Snow in Egypt [Re: andrewmurray86]
    #19280953 - 12/15/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Every time a volcano blows it's top it releases millions to billions of TONS of Co2, hydrogen sulfide, hydrogen chloride, hydrogen fluoride, carbon monoxide.... The list goes on and on. One volcano could contribute the same amount of air pollution as the entire period of the industrial revolution in one eruption.

Are there any long term effects to the atmosphere from them? How about the amount of C02 produced from dead any decaying plants and animals, any idea how that equates to the amounts produced by burning fossil fuels? I think you might be very surprised. What about forest fires caused by lighting and dry conditions? Since this is the shroomery any idea how many tons of carbon dioxide is produced annually by cow pies? lol


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Re: Snow in Egypt [Re: JonnyBtreed]
    #19281025 - 12/15/13 08:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Al Gore was bloody right, the earth is heating up!


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Re: Snow in Egypt [Re: JonnyBtreed]
    #19281105 - 12/15/13 08:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Every time a volcano blows it's top it releases millions to billions of TONS of Co2, hydrogen sulfide, hydrogen chloride, hydrogen fluoride, carbon monoxide.... The list goes on and on. One volcano could contribute the same amount of air pollution as the entire period of the industrial revolution in one eruption.





decomposing plant matter actually contributes far more than volcanoes


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Re: Snow in Egypt [Re: JonnyBtreed]
    #19281109 - 12/15/13 08:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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JonnyBtreed said:
Every time a volcano blows it's top it releases millions to billions of TONS of Co2, hydrogen sulfide, hydrogen chloride, hydrogen fluoride, carbon monoxide.... The list goes on and on. One volcano could contribute the same amount of air pollution as the entire period of the industrial revolution in one eruption.

Are there any long term effects to the atmosphere from them? How about the amount of C02 produced from dead any decaying plants and animals, any idea how that equates to the amounts produced by burning fossil fuels? I think you might be very surprised. What about forest fires caused by lighting and dry conditions? Since this is the shroomery any idea how many tons of carbon dioxide is produced annually by cow pies? lol





I like this guy!
Exploring further information then the mass media tells and using logical thinking to come to a conclusion, one so obvious that it not even be stated.
This is the kind of human behavior I rarely see and applaud.


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Re: Snow in Egypt [Re: broken]
    #19281532 - 12/15/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)
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I think a solid definition of anthropogenic is needed. For example, do you include the methan emissions from livestock as anthropogenic since we are producing these animals for our consumption?

I'm not sure...

Anyway I can only attach 1 file per post so here you go guys. Please read the abstract and note the journal so you can get a better idea of the bias involved. Check the sources that are referenced too.


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    #19281539 - 12/15/13 10:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)
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    #19281544 - 12/15/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)
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    #19281548 - 12/15/13 10:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)
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methodology, you'll probably like this one Zappa


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Re: Snow in Egypt [Re: andrewmurray86]
    #19281549 - 12/15/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)
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permafrost part 1


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Re: Snow in Egypt [Re: andrewmurray86]
    #19282097 - 12/16/13 01:19 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I think a solid definition of anthropogenic is needed.





I think a solid link to a thousand climate scientist saying that global warming is man made is needed


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Re: Snow in Egypt [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19282228 - 12/16/13 02:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Don't misquote me... that's dumb and make your arguments (still waiting for something btw) less convincing.

link is here

if you missed then you can click here as well

if you want to rub it in my face about being wrong the click here
in case you missed that one one too then click here instead


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Re: Snow in Egypt [Re: andrewmurray86]
    #19282679 - 12/16/13 07:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Don't misquote me... that's dumb and make your arguments (still waiting for something btw) less convincing.

link is here

if you missed then you can click here as well

if you want to rub it in my face about being wrong the click here
in case you missed that one one too then click here instead





that's the IPCC website, the IPCC has been highly criticized for their
political alliances as well as their work, as has been stated and I'd
linked to earlier, climate scientiss are making most of the criticisms and
because the results havent fit any of their models they've resorted to
changing their expected outcomes and lowering the values to reflect their
'new predictions', several years back they'd predicted the disappearance of
the Himalayan Glaciers, once more they were wrong because much of the data
the IPCC was using was fictitious and instead of shrinking, they too were
growing, just like the polar ice caps

http://www.npr.org/2012/04/24/151206843/melt-or-grow-fate-of-himalayan-glaciers-unknown

so this panel of 1000 charlatans has convinced some folks that they're
scientists and yet nonthing they seem to be saying pans out so they change
the data, change the results and call themselves scientists instead of
fraudsters and the believers just keep believing in these noah's ark like
bible stories about the ice caps melting and the world flooding

collect them two by two


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Re: Snow in Egypt [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #19282801 - 12/16/13 08:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

the ice caps are not growing

they are spreading out thinly more

there thickness has indeed shrunk


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Re: Snow in Egypt [Re: Konyap]
    #19282871 - 12/16/13 09:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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the ice caps are not growing

they are spreading out thinly more

there thickness has indeed shrunk




I'm not so sure about that. Have you ever heard of the B2 bombers and P38's that were flying over Greenland when they went down in the 1940's. Some scientists went back to find them and extract them in 1980's and they couldn't find them anywhere. Turns out they were buried almost 300 under the ice completely intact. Which means that glacial ice didn't push them down there or they would of been completely destroyed. Snow drifted over, melted slightly and froze many, many times. Which is how the ice sheets grow. True some of the edges of Greenland have been melting back some but the height/thickness has been growing rather continually since the early 1900's.

One of the planes was extracted and is now known as the Glacial Girl.

Also, the Vikings used to farm Greenland and settled there for a few hundred years. So what caused the of Greenland a few thousand years ago? I think if the vikings were still around they would probably be rather amused at our concern over the ice melting back around the edges slightly, lol.

Still wouldn't consider it farmland quite yet, would you?

edited for clarification.


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