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Re: iPhones vs Android [Re: GEncore]
#19285759 - 12/16/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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GEncore said: I used to be on the Apple bandwagon 100%. iPhone 3, then 3GS then 4.
I got a Sony Xperia SP a couple weeks back, and it's really mindblowing how much I've been missing by sticking with iPhones.
Basically, if you're a shallow individual when it comes to technology get an iPhone. If you actually like to do cool futuristic shit with your phone and feel like you're in control, get an Android.
Oh fuckin' please, what futuristic shit do you think you're doing? BTW, I have a whole drawer of android phones....
You might listen to podcasts, music, stream some music, read some rss feeds, check your social networking, use a gps, look up some prices, buy some conert tickets, check your mail, play a game... all of the bullshit everyone does with their smartphone can be done on every modern smartphone...
I do some odds and ends many people don't, like send torrents and nzbs to my server, stream music from my server, use my phone as a remote control for plex, ocasionally vnc into a computer, control my phillips hue lights wirelessly with my phone..... Can do all that shit from any smartphone OS too...
Frankly phones are fucking boring part of life.... There's nothing mind blowingly special about any of these phones, all the top end $200+ contracted phones are pretty fuckin' nice at this point. It's just what some shareholder needs you to believe that your choice was somehow special.
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Re: iPhones vs Android [Re: psi]
#19285827 - 12/16/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Juicin said: If you use it for a media player, I'd go with the droid. Paying apple for the 32 gig Iphone is pretty insane if you need the memory. Droid allows you to buy a 20 dollar chip to add 32 gigs of memory. But if you don't care about your memory and are more worried about a well made phone I'd go with the smaller iphone. You don't need much space if you're not filling it with audio files and videos
Yeah a microSD slot is a very useful feature and presumably costs very little to add. The only reason they left it out is so that they can milk a lot more money out of people who want a little more storage. Fuck that.
"They" being every company except Samsung? Almost no phones include SD card slots any more.
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Juicin said: If you use it for a media player, I'd go with the droid. Paying apple for the 32 gig Iphone is pretty insane if you need the memory. Droid allows you to buy a 20 dollar chip to add 32 gigs of memory. But if you don't care about your memory and are more worried about a well made phone I'd go with the smaller iphone. You don't need much space if you're not filling it with audio files and videos
Yeah a microSD slot is a very useful feature and presumably costs very little to add. The only reason they left it out is so that they can milk a lot more money out of people who want a little more storage. Fuck that.
"They" being every company except Samsung? Almost no phones include SD card slots any more.
They don't because android handles it fairly sloppily... None of the nexus phones have microSD cards... That's google's flagship line and the only android phones I'd personally recommend... They don't come with the crap 3rd party ui like "sense' or "motoblur", get routine updates, don't have tons of crapware included...
Basically all the 3rd party android ui phones (99% of all android phones) are complete crap imho unless you root them and install a custom vanilla rom, which may have bugs and issues of its own to be resolved slowly over time...
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I completely agree. Since I got the iPhone 5s I've been really impressed. I don't think I would go back to Android unless someone makes a flagship model with a ~4.3" screen. The 4.7"+ screens are just too big to comfortably use with one hand.
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I myself like iphones more, but androids are just as good really. Iphone just has a few more perks like iMessage and small things like that.
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CosmicJoke said: I have a whole drawer of android phones....
You got one with the keyboard on it? I want one that I can install Kali on as a project box.
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I got a space grey 5s 64gb on day one, was amusing, other people I knew lined up for that phone and waited all night and they ran dry at the apple store.. I rolled out of bed at 9:00am and walked into the first verizon store that opened at 10am, was 6th in queue, and waltzed out of the store with one in hand 
It's a nice phone for sure, but I knew exactly what to expect... Touch ID is a welcomed edition, kind of prefer the feel of a 4s in my hand, feels more grippy, but the 5s screen real estate is welcomed...
Actually, I'm not even sure if there has been a top shelf android phone @ $200+ w/ contract @ 4.3" or under in a solid year or more now... Clearly the market has gone with bigger is better, 4.7"+ seems the new standard...
It will be interesting to see if Apple changes the size form factor w/ the 6, I have a feeling it's the next logical progression, welcomed or not.
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CosmicJoke said: I got a space grey 5s 64gb on day one, was amusing, other people I knew lined up for that phone and waited all night and they ran dry at the apple store.. I rolled out of bed at 9:00am and walked into the first verizon store that opened at 10am, was 6th in queue, and waltzed out of the store with one in hand 
It's a nice phone for sure, but I knew exactly what to expect... Touch ID is a welcomed edition, kind of prefer the feel of a 4s in my hand, feels more grippy, but the 5s screen real estate is welcomed...
Actually, I'm not even sure if there has been a top shelf android phone @ $200+ w/ contract @ 4.3" or under in a solid year or more now... Clearly the market has gone with bigger is better, 4.7"+ seems the new standard...
It will be interesting to see if Apple changes the size form factor w/ the 6, I have a feeling it's the next logical progression, welcomed or not.
The only reason that Android devices are all that big is because Android is so inefficient that they need massive batteries to get decent battery life.
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CosmicJoke said: I have a whole drawer of android phones....
You got one with the keyboard on it? I want one that I can install Kali on as a project box.
negatory, i have galaxy nexus, droid incredible, nexus one, umm i guess that's it, maybe a drawer full was a bit of an exaggeration.
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Man with the androids it's all about not being a dumbass. Take a day or two to get to know your phone. Add a new launcher, customize it a little bit, download some widgets, a background, get the whole page together. There are guides online for how to do this and videos on youtube if you are a beginner. Once you are at the level where you are torrenting all your movies, music, and apps, you have succeeded. You effectively no longer need your computer for downloading music and it can be done straight from your phone. I think u torrent is always a good option and then I recommend another one. Forgot the name but I know that it is a little more user friendly for the phone. Downloaded an entire eminem album (slim shady lp) in the course of twenty minutes then added Pineapple Express and a few other movies before getting off lunch break and moving on with my day. End of the day I have enough entertainment to keep me going for the bus ride home and to show off to friends.
You buy an iphone and the hardest work is done for you. That is what you pay for. A good software, hardware, but the same as everyone else. The "ooooh look you have an iphone omg it's shiny" thing will wear off fast. Next thing that happens is the end of your contract approaches and you get another iphone with panarama view or some fucking gay ios 6 update with a finger print scanner. Then all you can do is keep your fingertips agile and ready to go and brag about how it's better then using a pin code to get into your phone. IMO I don't even bother with having a locked lock screen I would rather just swype and get started.
Have fun with your colours. You have a colorful personality and like colourful phones. I get it. You like to laugh and be yourself and have a good time. You don't care about your phone looking professional because you have a warm personality and would rather be inviting and cutesy. Well guess what pal. I can remove the back of my galaxy s4 and replace it with any case, any colour I want. The flip cases for the android phones are a lot beter than the crock chedder cheese hole in the case matched with some prime colour look for the iphone 5c.
What are they gonna do next? Will you follow their lead. You can jailbreak, sure. But you are still trying to break free of a legacy that doesn't give a shit if you jailbreak you phone and make it ten times slower for a few free apps you couldn't afford on itunes because you don't have a proper credit card to hook it up. Good for you. I don't need to jailbreak cause I'm not a bitch.
That stuff grinds my gears I am sorry. Had to let out a little steam to the iphone people. I like you all, don't get me wrong, but you simply have never given it a chance. You are afraid of change, don't want to break free of what your friends think is hip and cool. Put in a little work and you will be the guy with the new flashy NEXT THING. Don't think so. Until you change your mind that is, but until then , I am just gonna shut my big yap.
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The only reason that Android devices are all that big is because Android is so inefficient that they need massive batteries to get decent battery life.
Well, I don't think that's true, I think a lot of people legitimately do want a 1080p 5" screen or whatever, it's undeniably pleasant to surf and type that way in my experience... Not so great to grip for a long phone conversation, but YMMV...
Battery efficiency is a tough thing to gauge too, have had to support many stupid bugs w/ say apple's Mail app going into a sync fuckfest and making the phone hot and quickly draining the battery... Seems I have to fix my roommate's iPhone all the time cause the battery drains too fast... Never much of an issue for me though
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GEncore said: I used to be on the Apple bandwagon 100%. iPhone 3, then 3GS then 4.
I got a Sony Xperia SP a couple weeks back, and it's really mindblowing how much I've been missing by sticking with iPhones.
Basically, if you're a shallow individual when it comes to technology get an iPhone. If you actually like to do cool futuristic shit with your phone and feel like you're in control, get an Android.
Oh fuckin' please, what futuristic shit do you think you're doing? BTW, I have a whole drawer of android phones....
You might listen to podcasts, music, stream some music, read some rss feeds, check your social networking, use a gps, look up some prices, buy some conert tickets, check your mail, play a game... all of the bullshit everyone does with their smartphone can be done on every modern smartphone...
I do some odds and ends many people don't, like send torrents and nzbs to my server, stream music from my server, use my phone as a remote control for plex, ocasionally vnc into a computer, control my phillips hue lights wirelessly with my phone..... Can do all that shit from any smartphone OS too...
Frankly phones are fucking boring part of life.... There's nothing mind blowingly special about any of these phones, all the top end $200+ contracted phones are pretty fuckin' nice at this point. It's just what some shareholder needs you to believe that your choice was somehow special.
I generally agree its retarded to argue about this, but im sure you will also generally agree that if you are looking to do anything slightly out of the ordinary (such as the 'odds and ends') you listed, its typically easier on an android vs an apple device due to more cross platform/open development instead of all the proprietary ideals apple cherishes so much. Its an easy distinction to make for someone looking to make a choice on what phone to get without getting technical with the fundamentals of ultimately being able to rehack and reconfigure anything into anything else with enough effort. Personally the physical features of the phone is what i find most important. I don't like iphones because they swear by their trademark tiny form factor. I prefer having a large display which doubles as a tablet, so the choice is clear.
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I have all that set up on my iPhone, not even jailbroken.... All torrents sent straight to my server with one click from revtt, same for nzb indexers... My friend actually made an app for it called Bar Magnet (also exists for mac, to send magnets or double clicked torrents directly to your server, notifies you when they're complete etc.)
Supports most all clients, transmission, rtorrent, utorrent vuze, etc...
Still, most everything I don't even actively search for, I auto watch it all and have it done by RSS
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Bitter Cactus said: Man with the androids it's all about not being a dumbass. Take a day or two to get to know your phone. Add a new launcher, customize it a little bit, download some widgets, a background, get the whole page together. There are guides online for how to do this and videos on youtube if you are a beginner. Once you are at the level where you are torrenting all your movies, music, and apps, you have succeeded. You effectively no longer need your computer for downloading music and it can be done straight from your phone. I think u torrent is always a good option and then I recommend another one. Forgot the name but I know that it is a little more user friendly for the phone. Downloaded an entire eminem album (slim shady lp) in the course of twenty minutes then added Pineapple Express and a few other movies before getting off lunch break and moving on with my day. End of the day I have enough entertainment to keep me going for the bus ride home and to show off to friends.
You buy an iphone and the hardest work is done for you. That is what you pay for. A good software, hardware, but the same as everyone else. The "ooooh look you have an iphone omg it's shiny" thing will wear off fast. Next thing that happens is the end of your contract approaches and you get another iphone with panarama view or some fucking gay ios 6 update with a finger print scanner. Then all you can do is keep your fingertips agile and ready to go and brag about how it's better then using a pin code to get into your phone. IMO I don't even bother with having a locked lock screen I would rather just swype and get started.
Have fun with your colours. You have a colorful personality and like colourful phones. I get it. You like to laugh and be yourself and have a good time. You don't care about your phone looking professional because you have a warm personality and would rather be inviting and cutesy. Well guess what pal. I can remove the back of my galaxy s4 and replace it with any case, any colour I want. The flip cases for the android phones are a lot beter than the crock chedder cheese hole in the case matched with some prime colour look for the iphone 5c.
What are they gonna do next? Will you follow their lead. You can jailbreak, sure. But you are still trying to break free of a legacy that doesn't give a shit if you jailbreak you phone and make it ten times slower for a few free apps you couldn't afford on itunes because you don't have a proper credit card to hook it up. Good for you. I don't need to jailbreak cause I'm not a bitch.
That stuff grinds my gears I am sorry. Had to let out a little steam to the iphone people. I like you all, don't get me wrong, but you simply have never given it a chance. You are afraid of change, don't want to break free of what your friends think is hip and cool. Put in a little work and you will be the guy with the new flashy NEXT THING. Don't think so. Until you change your mind that is, but until then , I am just gonna shut my big yap.

Oh man, that was a funny rant. Now that you are done spewing a very condescending opinion, I will let you know where I'm coming from.
I'm a mobile software developer . I develop apps for iOS, Android, BB10, and used to develop apps for BB7. I have several older BlackBerry's, a Q10, Z10, iPhone 5s, Nexus 4, Nexus 5, iPad Mini, Samsung Galaxy S4, and an HTC One. My favourite phone is the iPhone 5s.
I assure you that I understand how Android works. And I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the S4 or the HTC One. They are both great phones. But I prefer the iPhone. The quality of the app selection is far superior, the battery life and camera are better, and I prefer the form factor.
I will admit I might be slightly biased because Apple's development tools are by far the best - it's not even a question. Since I do have to use these development tools all day every day it does have an effect on my view of a certain platform.
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The only reason that Android devices are all that big is because Android is so inefficient that they need massive batteries to get decent battery life.
Well, I don't think that's true
I think it is absolutely true. Note how I said why they are all that big. It's not just a few of them. Certainly some people want bigger phones, but the iPhone has proven that a smaller form factor is certainly desirable to a pretty large portion of the population. If they could, some company would have made a smaller flagship Android device by now. I truly believe it's not possible.
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The only reason that Android devices are all that big is because Android is so inefficient that they need massive batteries to get decent battery life.
Well, I don't think that's true
I think it is absolutely true. Note how I said why they are all that big. It's not just a few of them. Certainly some people want bigger phones, but the iPhone has proven that a smaller form factor is certainly desirable to a pretty large portion of the population. If they could, some company would have made a smaller flagship Android device by now. I truly believe it's not possible.
Always nice to see 'true belief' based on absolutely zero objective evidence or technological understanding.
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Re: iPhones vs Android [Re: The_Ghost]
#19286197 - 12/16/13 09:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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What's so funny? Care to use your words to refute my theory?
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http://www.gizmag.com/htc-one-vs-iphone-5s-specs-comparison/29086/
The actual battery and everything else are sub par in the 5s.......But HTC isn't exactly giving you a deal either
The hardware is superior, apple probably has some edge due to designing the phones to run ios and the apps are tuned for the hardware as well.
edit - and the screen for bat life
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Re: iPhones vs Android [Re: Juicin]
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Juicin said: http://www.gizmag.com/htc-one-vs-iphone-5s-specs-comparison/29086/
The actual battery and everything else are sub par in the 5s.......But HTC isn't exactly giving you a deal either
The hardware is superior, apple probably has some edge due to designing the phones to run ios and the apps are tuned for the hardware as well.
edit - and the screen for bat life
What do you mean by "sub-par", and what is everything? You seem to be basing your points entirely on the clock speed of the CPU or something and not on performance.
At the end of the day specs like amount of RAM and clock of CPU aren't remotely important - it's about real-world performance.
The A7 chip (the CPU in the 5s) has been benchmarked higher than literally every other processor on the market. It even competes with a prototype Intel tablet chip. Have a look:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/5
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CPU ram and size of battery, then also rez of screen although i would consider that fluff.
And drains more bat
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