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Re: What kind of laptop should I get? [Re: pwnasaurus]
#19280631 - 12/15/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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mjmihalov said: Seriously? look around, 10+ hours is not that uncommon in higher end laptops/convertibles.
Please list some.
This list on Engadget pegs none over 10 hours other than Apple machines.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/19/lenovo-ideapad-yoga-2-pro-review/
Google is your friend, I just found like 12 convertibles/laptops with ~10 hours of battery life in like 30secs. Some take an OEM extended battery, but even then most are still cheaper than apple stuff.
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Re: What kind of laptop should I get? [Re: Shroomism]
#19280636 - 12/15/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: Lenovo FTW
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Re: What kind of laptop should I get? [Re: TrentBoyett]
#19280642 - 12/15/13 06:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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mjmihalov said: Seriously? look around, 10+ hours is not that uncommon in higher end laptops/convertibles.
Please list some.
This list on Engadget pegs none over 10 hours other than Apple machines.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/19/lenovo-ideapad-yoga-2-pro-review/
Google is your friend, I just found like 12 convertibles/laptops with ~10 hours of battery life in like 30secs. Some take an OEM extended battery, but even then most are still cheaper than apple stuff.
You went through the trouble of looking them up and you won't even list the models? 
Also an extended battery would completely destroy the form factor of an ultrabook. Kinda defeats the purpose.
Let's see the ultrabooks that get 12+ hours of battery life and weigh under 3 pounds.
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Re: What kind of laptop should I get? [Re: McTwist]
#19280651 - 12/15/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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OP one other thing on this stay away from HPs they are notorious for over heating unless you wanna mod the heat sink with copper shims.
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Re: What kind of laptop should I get? [Re: pwnasaurus]
#19280667 - 12/15/13 06:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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https://kb.wisc.edu/showroom/page.php?id=3045
notice the 200 dollar buy back as well. I would certainly be more libel to trust an apple product when it's newly released. But buying older model laptops that have been thoroughly reviewed by consumers is just as effective.
If you don't think apple charges for gimmick's you're misinformed. They charge a hundred dollars per inch of extra screen.
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Re: What kind of laptop should I get? [Re: pwnasaurus]
#19280674 - 12/15/13 06:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Also an extended battery would completely destroy the form factor of an ultrabook. Kinda defeats the purpose.
So you what do you want it to do? Look pretty or work when you need it to? My eee pc gets well over10 hours. with the stock battery.
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Re: What kind of laptop should I get? [Re: Juicin]
#19280722 - 12/15/13 07:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Juicin said: https://kb.wisc.edu/showroom/page.php?id=3045
notice the 200 dollar buy back as well. I would certainly be more libel to trust an apple product when it's newly released. But buying older model laptops that have been thoroughly reviewed by consumers is just as effective.
If you don't think apple charges for gimmick's you're misinformed. They charge a hundred dollars per inch of extra screen.
The MBP is clearly superior. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
- better processor - better quality screen (color reproduction, viewing angles) - significantly better construction - significantly better trackpad - significantly lighter - probably better battery life
Worth $200 in my books.
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Re: What kind of laptop should I get? [Re: pwnasaurus]
#19280732 - 12/15/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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200 dollar rebate makes that 400.
And if you wanted the 17 inch screen it'd be closer to 800. With the same specs. The processors are roughly equivalent. And the screen is marginally better.
And no one competent with a computer, or with anything worth while to do with a computer. Prefers a track pad to a mouse. Can't game or even browse the internet with any efficiency. I'd take a touch screen over a touch pad, but both are terrible.
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Re: What kind of laptop should I get? [Re: r00tuuu123]
#19280744 - 12/15/13 07:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah my dell I bought like two years ago, that had an I7 3.something GHz processor, 8gb of ram, dedicated graphics, 15.6inch 1080 screen, etc... got almost 8 hours with the stock battery.
And did I mention that was like 2 years ago?
And it only cost me like ~$800....
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Re: What kind of laptop should I get? [Re: Magicman69]
#19280775 - 12/15/13 07:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Depends on what you want, a samsung series 9 would be sick imho, or an acer aspire s7,
or a refurbished macbook air (are same as new) for $929 off apple store http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/macbook_air/13
but these are all very light weight ultraportables (the haswell chips have killer battery life too), great for college kids, travelers, and carrying around town
if you don't mind something heavy, you could probably get something with a discrete gpu to play a game with around $1k... lenovo has ummmm the y510p for like $1k w/ a 750m sli setup
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834313584
edit: reading further, i see you're in college, honestly i'd say assimilate and get the macbook air, the haswell macbook airs literally get 12 hours of battery life, you'll probably love the operating system and the trackpad etc...
just make sure you get a haswell chip regardless of what you choose, w/ school you'll probably be off the brick a lot.
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Re: What kind of laptop should I get? [Re: TrentBoyett]
#19280859 - 12/15/13 07:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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mjmihalov said: Yeah my dell I bought like two years ago, that had an I7 3.something GHz processor, 8gb of ram, dedicated graphics, 15.6inch 1080 screen, etc... got almost 8 hours with the stock battery.
And did I mention that was like 2 years ago?
And it only cost me like ~$800....
My eee is a 1005 peb 5 years old 10 inch screen but I love it tweaked to max ram of 2 gigs and a 320 gig hd and I have an extra battery It's almost small enough to fit in the pockets on cargo pants. Asus discontinued the eee series 2 years ago and went to a10 and 12 inch convertible both very nice an can be had for under 500.00 damn shame in my opinion But OP can't go wrong with any asus model the 13 and 15 models are sweet and quite affordable probably can be had for around 600.00 With my extra battery it is good for about 10 hours of constant use. Remember when they rate batteries the time they give is idle or at most light use. Of course I run linux which is much easier on the battery than windows the only reason I keep it dual booted is so I can sell it easier with winblows7
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Re: What kind of laptop should I get? [Re: r00tuuu123]
#19280942 - 12/15/13 07:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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r00tuuu123 said: OP one other thing on this stay away from HPs they are notorious for over heating unless you wanna mod the heat sink with copper shims.
Yeah the one that just fried was an HP. Only 3 years old too
I don't currently play games, but if I had the system I would love to play the new CS. I'm not getting an apple. Battery life is of little importance as it will be plugged in 99% of the time. I bring my IPad to class with keyboard for notes.
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Re: What kind of laptop should I get? [Re: Magicman69]
#19281256 - 12/15/13 08:51 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Can you explain what you need? If it's plugged in 99% of the time, why is weight important? If it's only 1% of the time you're taking it around off the brick, man up... join a gym....
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834313584
take a real look at this if you can hang w/ a 6.4lb laptop... Lenovo has incredible warranty support, you're getting a 1080p screen, i7 chipset, and a dual graphics card sli 750m rig for $1k
it's pretty much a total desktop replacement..
if you want something ultraportable in your budget, you're not getting a discrete graphics card, machines @ 4.5lb or less w/ discrete graphics are around $2k....
if you want light weight in your budget, you're getting an iGPU for sure...
i'd really look at the macbook air if you want ultraportable, 3lbs, hd 5000, 1440x900 screen, ssd.... and all those valve games like counterstrike are multiplatform and support mac and linux... plus hd 5000 IGPU on a macbook air will play a valve game no sweat...
i mean i'd push you towards a samsung series 9 or acer aspire s7, but the latest haswell models w/ a considerably better iGPU are probably a bit more expensive than an air, which is already maxing your budget..
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Re: What kind of laptop should I get? [Re: CosmicJoke]
#19281277 - 12/15/13 08:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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CosmicJoke said: Can you explain what you need? If it's plugged in 99% of the time, why is weight important? If it's only 1% of the time you're taking it around off the brick, man up... join a gym....
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834313584
take a real look at this if you can hang w/ a 6.4lb laptop... Lenovo has incredible warranty support, you're getting a 1080p screen, i7 chipset, and a dual graphics card sli 750m rig for $1k
it's pretty much a total desktop replacement..
if you want something ultraportable in your budget, you're not getting a discrete graphics card, machines @ 4.5lb or less w/ discrete graphics are around $2k....
if you want light weight in your budget, you're getting an iGPU for sure...
i'd really look at the macbook air if you want ultraportable, 3lbs, hd 5000, 1440x900 screen, ssd.... and all those valve games like counterstrike are multiplatform and support mac and linux... plus hd 5000 IGPU on a macbook air will play a valve game no sweat...
i mean i'd push you towards a samsung series 9 or acer aspire s7, but the latest haswell models w/ a considerably better iGPU are probably a bit more expensive than an air, which is already maxing your budget..
Thank you. People on this site are so biased against Apple product. They are generally pretty excellent. At that price point the Macbook Air is a fantastic choice unless you want to game.
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Re: What kind of laptop should I get? [Re: pwnasaurus]
#19281329 - 12/15/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The point is that apple is overpriced. He linked a laptop that shits over any apple product for anything close to that price. With the only downside being 3 extra pounds in your bag
No one is arguing if you're willing to pay them enough money apple won't deliver a great product......But they will over charge
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Re: What kind of laptop should I get? [Re: pwnasaurus]
#19281335 - 12/15/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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they are, and can even handle light gaming, like a valve game, no sweat.... the witcher 2 not so much, you want the best discrete graphics you can afford if that's the type of game you want to play...
there are a ton of macbook air haswell hd 5000 gaming youtube videos, you can search almost any game and see how it will play, and that will apply to almost any i5 haswell pc equivalent w/ hd 4600, should play about the same frame rates around 1440x900p resolution or less.... has nothing to do with mac or pc, is an intel architecture thing, the haswell igpu is significantly faster than ivy bridge... bottom line is, if you want to game without a discrete graphics card like a 650m or better, an i5/i7 haswell IGPU with hd 4600 or 5000 is your best chance at accomplishing this.
i think the air is actually a pretty good bang for the buck at 3lb laptops, which are never cheap, except for atom based netbook stuff... the samsung s9 and acer aspire s7 do have nicer ips screens though, but they come with a cost.
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Re: What kind of laptop should I get? [Re: Juicin]
#19281342 - 12/15/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Juicin said: The point is that apple is overpriced. He linked a laptop that shits over any apple product for anything close to that price. With the only downside being 3 extra pounds in your bag
No one is arguing if you're willing to pay them enough money apple won't deliver a great product......But they will over charge
they don't though, show me another i5 haswell 3lb laptop with an ssd and a 1440x900p screen in the same price range... this is apple's introductory laptop, they sell them like hot cakes, they don't really overcharge at all.... it's just expensive tech.
edit: there is a more considerable premium on their $2k 15" laptops though
not saying apple aren't greedy fucks, but i think with their air it's more about getting people into their ecosystem, so they are priced quite competitively for the tech
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Re: What kind of laptop should I get? [Re: pwnasaurus]
#19281343 - 12/15/13 09:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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My first computer was a $400 acer aspire. It was total trash, fell apart at the seams within 6 months. 2 years later I bought a second hand 2008 MBP for $500. It has more than enough power for my needs, including 8gb RAM, Intel dual core processor, and 250gb HD.
I run it through photo and video editing, web development, and music software without any problems. The only thing I don't use it for is gaming. In the almost 5 years I've had it, I have had to only replace the hard drive, but that's because I dropped it pretty hard.
My only regret is not spending the extra $100 in the first place.
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Re: What kind of laptop should I get? [Re: CosmicJoke]
#19281371 - 12/15/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The screen is a gimmick
And a SSD that small is not "expensive tech"
I have already linked dell selling basically the same computer for 400 dollars less. And that was just the top link in google. You're paying for gimmicks and brand prestige.
What the fuck am I going to run at that rez? with a computer with no power
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Re: What kind of laptop should I get? [Re: Juicin]
#19281374 - 12/15/13 09:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, and that 13 hours of battery life, not important at all.
I know you hate Apple like 99% of the people on this site but they do make good products if you can see past your bias.
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