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Sweedill
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Terriestral Polypore has me stumped
#19281043 - 12/15/13 08:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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 Found this near a bunch of dog poop in the grass, oak trees are nearby. The cap is 3 inches and feels a very firm sponge. Missing chunk is from where I tested to see if it darkens with hydrogen peroxide and it did NOT. Smell is very strong, musty mushroom spore smell.
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Re: Terriestral Polypore has me stumped [Re: Sweedill]
#19281069 - 12/15/13 08:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looks like an old Ganoderma. Likely growing from roots. Does the pore surface turn brown if you scratch it?
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Re: Terriestral Polypore has me stumped [Re: suchen]
#19281099 - 12/15/13 08:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The cap isn't affected by scratching (it slightly stretches and cracks) but if i scratch off some of the pores, it's a darker brown.
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Re: Terriestral Polypore has me stumped [Re: Sweedill]
#19281119 - 12/15/13 08:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Those pores are huge.
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Re: Terriestral Polypore has me stumped [Re: Sweedill]
#19281170 - 12/15/13 08:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
suchen said: Looks like an old Ganoderma. Likely growing from roots.
Where in the world you from Sweedill? General location helps with ID. What kind of trees where in the surrounding area?
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Re: Terriestral Polypore has me stumped [Re: Gravija]
#19281216 - 12/15/13 08:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Gravija said: Those pores are huge.
Great point.
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Re: Terriestral Polypore has me stumped [Re: dodeski]
#19281259 - 12/15/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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When I saw it I thought it could be ganoderma, but I've never touched/seen one in person before. This is North Texas and we just thawed out of an ice storm from 9 days ago. The trees surrounding are oak but their are different kinds too, maybe some conifer, that I didn't pay attention to.
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Re: Terriestral Polypore has me stumped [Re: Sweedill]
#19281340 - 12/15/13 09:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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There is a possibility of it being G. curtisii. Ya, I never thought I would have to become an arborist to study mushrooms, not that I am. Knowing a bit about the trees and shrubs growing around helps allot with identification.
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Re: Terriestral Polypore has me stumped [Re: dodeski]
#19281430 - 12/15/13 09:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am using the identification book, Mushrooms Demystified by David Arora, in the description of G. curtisii he describes it as being "whitish or only partly reddish cap". This mushroom is throwing me off by being so brown. Maybe it's just bruised all over? It was growing where the dogs go outside to poop and we had a heavy ice storm a week ago. To call it a ganoderma I really want to see the white color.
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Re: Terriestral Polypore has me stumped [Re: Sweedill]
#19281477 - 12/15/13 09:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sweedill said: I am using the identification book, Mushrooms Demystified by David Arora, in the description of G. curtisii he describes it as being "whitish or only partly reddish cap".
"Mushrooms Demystified" is a great book, but it is not the end all. I have found many flaws in it through my research. Mine is full of foot notes and corrections.
Ganoderma lucidum MushroomExpert.com
Ganoderma curtisii Wikipedia.org
Maybe somebody else will be able to enlighten us better.
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Re: Terriestral Polypore has me stumped [Re: dodeski]
#19281531 - 12/15/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thank you for your insights dodeski as a beginner, I am relying heavily on my book and am needing to increase my tree id ability. When I picked this mushroom a neighbor asked if it was a good mushroom or a bad mushroom and before I could comment she said it looks like a bad mushroom. Mushroomphobia is too common.
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Re: Terriestral Polypore has me stumped [Re: dodeski]
#19281555 - 12/15/13 10:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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dodeski said:
"Mushrooms Demystified" is a great book, but it is not the end all. I have found many flaws in it through my research. Mine is full of foot notes and corrections.
You should talk to David about that, he is working on a new version. He is maxfun at cruzio dot com.
This is a very cool polypore, and the pores seem too large for Ganoderma. I have linked this thread to my favorite Mexican polypore expert.
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Quote:
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dodeski said:
"Mushrooms Demystified" is a great book, but it is not the end all. I have found many flaws in it through my research. Mine is full of foot notes and corrections.
You should talk to David about that, he is working on a new version.
This is a very cool polypore, and the pores seem too large for Ganoderma. I have linked this thread to my favorite Mexican polypore expert.
Ah, thank you. I hear he doesn't live too far from me, just down the coast. I may shoot him an E-mail. My research can be flawed too though. It would be interesting if he found anything useful from it.
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Re: Terriestral Polypore has me stumped [Re: dodeski]
#19282323 - 12/16/13 03:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was thinking Jahnoporus hirtus, before i looked at it a second time..
I very much agree with Ganoderma. Crazy pores though!
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Re: Terriestral Polypore has me stumped [Re: Joust]
#19283491 - 12/16/13 11:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I once found a bunch of G. lucidum growing by some dead oaks that appeared to be terrestrial but we're growing off some dead underground roots. That's probably not what you've got, but it's possible it could actually be saprobic or parasitic and you wouldn't be able to tell.
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Re: Terriestral Polypore has me stumped [Re: BittrBuffalo]
#19284570 - 12/16/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Terriestral Polypore has me stumped [Re: Bobzimmer]
#19284678 - 12/16/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Idk, F. pinicola usually has uniform round pores, no? These look really angular and irregular.
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Re: Terriestral Polypore has me stumped [Re: Gravija]
#19284693 - 12/16/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I agree. Maybe it's just old?
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Re: Terriestral Polypore has me stumped [Re: Bobzimmer]
#19284727 - 12/16/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Maybe. Although, even the pores near the margin are angular- that should be new growth.
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Re: Terriestral Polypore has me stumped [Re: Gravija]
#19284771 - 12/16/13 04:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The new growth area is usually devoid of any pores. Sterile. I think there's a sterile band in these photos. The pores look like they used to be round to me and have elongated through age and or damage. I could be wrong though.
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Re: Terriestral Polypore has me stumped [Re: Bobzimmer]
#19284833 - 12/16/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Actually if this is F. pinicola, the margin wouldn't be the "new growth area" since it grows a new tube layer annually.

Maybe cross-sectioning it would help in IDing?
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Re: Terriestral Polypore has me stumped [Re: Bobzimmer]
#19295063 - 12/18/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Terriestral Polypore has me stumped [Re: Sweedill]
#19295109 - 12/18/13 08:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The pores are the wrong shape for Ganoderma lucidum, and that species does not even occur in North America according to Tom Bruns and Genbank.
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Re: Terriestral Polypore has me stumped [Re: Sweedill]
#19295142 - 12/18/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looks abit like Inonotus tomentosus which I belive is now Onnia tomentosus
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Re: Terriestral Polypore has me stumped [Re: Eddeee]
#19295156 - 12/18/13 08:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Wrong pileus texture for that, it has a tomentose top. You might be on the right track though.
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