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Just a Simple Endorsement of Shrooms...
    #19279884 - 12/15/13 03:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I just had to make this post for myself, because I truly believe that shrooms are a drug that can change lives for the better, but is not to be taken lightly. With that being said...

I fully and completely endorse the usage of shrooms in times of personal crisis.

Now many people might read that and heartily disagree with me, and might know shrooms better than I do, but I have done them twice, both very fresh, very strong caps, and both of those experiences happened at crucial times in my life.

The first was a week after my DWI; I had failed most of my classes in college and my parents had pretty much written me off. A friend of mine had wanted to do shrooms with me for a long time and decided that this was the best time. I didn't really want to, but I remembered reading that shrooms sometimes offered insight into personal situations and felt like the only direction I could take at the time was to take a dose and see what happens.

My friend bought them for me; 2Gs of fresh picked white caps (not a huge amount, but strong enough to cause intense visuals and some dissociation since I had never done them before), and he covered the cost for me since I was broke. I did them with him, and we simply wandered around a park enjoying nature. When I came down, I realized that the shrooms had given me exactly what I had needed at the time; a couple hours of unhindered freedom of thought that made me appreciate life a bit more, and brought me to the realization that there is still some beauty somewhere in the world, and some happiness still inside me.

About six months after that, I had rallied a bit, but was still very dependent on alcohol, pills, and cocaine for happiness. I decided this time to take an eighth of fresh caps; they were still white, but this time the trip was much more intense and much more insane. I realized nothing during the most intense parts of the trip, but I do remember I took another g at the peak and it sent me into a very dark place for an hour or so. At the end of the trip (8 hours, all night from 11 to 7 in the morning), I spent an entire day analyzing and going over what happened to me, and I realized that, once again, shrooms had given me exactly the trip I needed. The whole trip I stayed cooped up in an apartment with some friends, and they were losing their shit more than I was, but I remembered distinctly being very, very afraid of the outdoors and going outside. I also remembered the hour of darkness, where I laid shivering with my head under a blanket, realizing exactly how deep in the shitter my life was.

After that, I realized that my completely irrational and inexplicable at the time fear of the outdoors was a manifestation of me being afraid to go against the status quo and do what made me happy. All my friends were inside and refused to leave in fear of the outside, but I secretly wanted to leave and enjoy the freedom. However, I didn't, because I was subconsciously too worried about what my friends would think and too worried about seeming different and doing things differently.

It was with this realization that I came to the revelation that this same metaphorical shroom fear applied to the reason I was doing so many drugs and throwing my life away.

Sure I enjoyed them, but the main reason I did them is I didn't want to be the dude to refuse them.

Now when I say I was afraid to say no, I didn't mean to the alcohol and drugs at all; I meant that even when I didn't feel like partying and really needed a sober recharge, the people I surrounded myself with would do their best to prevent me from doing what I knew I needed to do for my sanity.

With this conclusion, over the next couple months, I kept in touch with these people; but gradually shifted my friendship with them to more of a loose association. I started to hang out with people who still wanted to party, but also knew when to stop and be serious about life.

The people I hung out with previously were all stuck in the wild and reckless times we had in high school, and didn't want to let go; each for their own reasons.

Maybe one day when they decide to join the adult world, I can re-kindle my friendship with them; but for now I have moved on to a better place in my life.

I still party, I still make bad decisions regarding drugs sometimes, no one is perfect...

The difference today is that I know what the limits of my sanity are, and I know for damn sure that I never want to go back to being known as that druggie guy.

And shrooms played a huge part in this life-changing decision.

*Disclaimer*
Though I recommend shrooms to people, I also urge people to treat them very carefully. If you do not know what you are getting into you have to be cautious with the amount of psychedelics you are doing. It has to be an informed and *especially* sober decision, because nothing can fully prepare you for how truthfully you will have to look at yourself as a human being on this drug.

Thanks for reading,

Jay


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Re: Just a Simple Endorsement of Shrooms... [Re: JayDEKE]
    #19279956 - 12/15/13 03:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

People where I live are the same as well stuck in the past

I am convinced that a bad trip is a higher being telling us in a sense we are not ready to receive the knowledge that they are inherently projecting to us in these trips


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Re: Just a Simple Endorsement of Shrooms... [Re: natzyshroomer]
    #19280334 - 12/15/13 05:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:lol::thumbup:


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Re: Just a Simple Endorsement of Shrooms... [Re: Icelander]
    #19281484 - 12/15/13 09:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Good trips are good

and

Bad trips are good.

Thus goes 'stoner logic'.


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Re: Just a Simple Endorsement of Shrooms... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #19282262 - 12/16/13 02:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

'Stoner logic' compromises of the ability to stop feeling sorry for yourself, taking the good out of the bad, and using the bad as a learning experience. My first trip was what you would call a 'bad' trip, but it was still good nonetheless. I'd even say it was amazing, and I'm glad I had it than no trip at all. Thankyou for the post Jay, I enjoyed reading it.


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Re: Just a Simple Endorsement of Shrooms... [Re: cheeshcat]
    #19282307 - 12/16/13 03:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Good read, a combo of LSD and shrooms over the coarse of 6 months has helped me quit smoking tobacco.


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Re: Just a Simple Endorsement of Shrooms... [Re: dceodhz]
    #19282552 - 12/16/13 05:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Trading off drugs is good. :lol:


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Re: Just a Simple Endorsement of Shrooms... [Re: natzyshroomer]
    #19283301 - 12/16/13 11:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

natzyshroomer said:
I am convinced that a bad trip is a higher being telling us in a sense we are not ready to receive the knowledge that they are inherently projecting to us in these trips




That is totally the reason you have a bad trip!
:rolleyes:


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Re: Just a Simple Endorsement of Shrooms... [Re: Cyclohexylamine]
    #19283322 - 12/16/13 11:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I had a bad trip once. It was a fucking horrifying, traumatic, almost schizophrenic experience. I learned nothing from it besides that I should never take DXM again.


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Re: Just a Simple Endorsement of Shrooms... [Re: NetDiver]
    #19284932 - 12/16/13 04:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Becoming schizophrenic off of cough syrup lul.


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Re: Just a Simple Endorsement of Shrooms... [Re: circastes]
    #19296588 - 12/19/13 04:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Why is this not in the PE? :what:

anyways, concerning so called "bad trips"

Bad trips only become really "bad" when the trip starts out bad, keeps on being bad the whole experience through and leaves you with negative outcomes such as a bad anxiety problem, or fear of this or that.

However, bad trips that build up to be really bad and intense, but given the right reaction to them- shift to become really good or at the very least have a happy ending are some of the best trips you can have imo. A sort of rebirth experience.

Why, I remember my last acid trip where I really got convinced that (and I've posted this in another topic somewhere, so I'm just gonna cmd+c cmd+v) the best thing to do when faced with some dark shit and overwhelming things start to build up is to lay down and completely relax (super counterintuitive). Just let it flourish as intensely as it has to without the slightest interference via tensing your body or mind. There have been other trips where I did the same, but never took notice to how effective this was. It isn't as easy as it sounds of course.

And usually when you flow through the experience that way you don't have to integrate what you experienced later, when sober. Instead, you have a clear view of what you learnt and how it can help you later in life once you're in afterglow. The lessons are nothing like utter enlightenment or whatever, just little things. Little things you seemed to need the most at the time. Just the right thing. Just enough to continue your journey once the power of the afterglow fades, as it should :thumbup:  might just have been coincidences, but w.e just gonna flow with it. Tripping never likes to be completely defined anyway. Leave lucy some wiggle room, she likes to be mysterious and I endorse that :thumbup:


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Edited by MotherNaturesSon (12/19/13 05:09 AM)


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Re: Just a Simple Endorsement of Shrooms... [Re: MotherNaturesSon]
    #19296645 - 12/19/13 05:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Tripping is so strange if you think about it..

My early trips helped me discover Zen without never knowing what it was..and set me straight at times! "Ah you shouldn't do this" or "wow I was an asshole" and also later on the trips became more about everything..really trippy experiences that showed me the most mind blowing things I've ever encountered.

I now find thoughts that only occurred on shrooms can happen at any time, thoughts such as stepping outside your own perception, seeing your self through another's eyes or even the species eyes.

Of course all these drugs and our drug receptors happened on accident. :rolleyes:


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Re: Just a Simple Endorsement of Shrooms... [Re: hTx]
    #19297576 - 12/19/13 11:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for sharing, man. :froman:

I've also taken psychedelics during some very difficult phases of my life.  I can't say that I recommend it to just anybody!  I did some reckless things that put me in serious danger.

I resonate with this idea that psychedelics have a quality of giving you what you need at the time.  I'm not convinced that they always gave me what I needed - but many of my psychedelic experiences have had this quality of synchronicity, and led me to make positive changes in my approach to life.  Most of these kind of experiences were overwhelming at times, and some were downright bad.

I think that people in crisis should use psychedelics very carefully...ideally in the company of a responsible friend.  Sometimes going for a walk downtown is a very bad idea and you need someone who will tell you so! :nyan:


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Re: Just a Simple Endorsement of Shrooms... [Re: JayDEKE]
    #19299659 - 12/19/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

JayDEKE said:
I fully and completely endorse the usage of shrooms in times of personal crisis.




There was a period of time where psychedelic drugs, mushrooms in particular, sent me into a deep, deep existential crisis that had me seriously contemplating suicide for some time. Every trip sent me deeper into the abyss. I stopped using psychs for a while and managed to pull myself out of it, but it could have ended up a lot worse.

I think encouraging people to use mushrooms in times of personal crisis is incredibly irresponsible. Psychedelics are a double edged sword, they can do great things for you but they can just as easily tear you apart.


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Re: Just a Simple Endorsement of Shrooms... [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19299912 - 12/19/13 08:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

True,  If you are going to recommend them I think this must be included it the possible outcomes.  If they are thus informed in ernest and decide to go ahead anyway you are not responsible for anything imo. Unless it turns out good of course and then you can take full credit. :laugh:


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Re: Just a Simple Endorsement of Shrooms... [Re: Icelander]
    #19300048 - 12/19/13 09:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Exactly:nodofunderstanding:


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Re: Just a Simple Endorsement of Shrooms... [Re: MisterSandman]
    #19302250 - 12/20/13 10:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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MisterSandman said:
Quote:

JayDEKE said:
I fully and completely endorse the usage of shrooms in times of personal crisis.




There was a period of time where psychedelic drugs, mushrooms in particular, sent me into a deep, deep existential crisis that had me seriously contemplating suicide for some time. Every trip sent me deeper into the abyss. I stopped using psychs for a while and managed to pull myself out of it, but it could have ended up a lot worse.

I think encouraging people to use mushrooms in times of personal crisis is incredibly irresponsible. Psychedelics are a double edged sword, they can do great things for you but they can just as easily tear you apart.




I was only talking about myself. For me, a crisis is a good time to trip because if I adjust my mind just right and experience the whole thing without freaking out- I gain a whole lot of vitality that actually helps me overcome my crisis. So far this has worked out for me time and time again :shrug: If the crisis is really intense and you're having a culmination of bad experiences- then of course I wouldn't trip. No one is saying someone should trip during a psychotic episode or a period of panic attacks. But there's definitely a time within my crisis when I feel strong enough to take on the experience even if I feel slightly depressed or anxious or existentially worn. I just make sure to dose small and give myself fully to the experience. Sometimes I get a little worried before those trips.

I'd go "what if ill have a really bad trip" but then I just stop, breathe in, clear my mind, drop it and relax. Idk how it works for others, but there is just something about tripping that makes me feel like I can resolve things that bug me so I trip :shrug: All that "only trip when you're happy" is completely fine and that's actually when I usually trip, but I have tripped on several occasions whilst having some negative stuff in the back of my head and those trips were amazing. Difficult at times, but really insightful and good. I'd literally feel as if I'm working through those problems head on and feel very alleviated afterwards. Go figure, just sayin. I guess tripping while you're heavily depressed can be a risky business, but then again my biggest problem has been intense anxiety and panic attacks a while back. Didn't trip then, and I've gotten through it for the most part, but I am successfully treating the fallout of it, so yeah :shrug:


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Re: Just a Simple Endorsement of Shrooms... [Re: MotherNaturesSon]
    #19302762 - 12/20/13 12:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I was only talking about myself.:imspecial:


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Re: Just a Simple Endorsement of Shrooms... [Re: Icelander]
    #19304253 - 12/20/13 06:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I was only talking about myself.:imspecial:




:feelingfab:

You know it!


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"The goal is to become more child-like, and less child-ish."


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