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Just for fun, Cased straight grains
#19279823 - 12/15/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just microwaved the shit out of some coir/verm closer to a 60/40 mix, it's definitely sterilized not pasteurized. 3 quarts of colonized grain not dunked and then a big thick layer of casing. We'll see what happens.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19279850 - 12/15/13 03:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: cronicr]
#19279855 - 12/15/13 03:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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don't try this at home bad technique and habbits
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19279890 - 12/15/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19279898 - 12/15/13 03:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta said: don't try this at home bad technique and habbits
i've got lots of that sorta thing on the go right now lol! SHHHH THOUGH!
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: cronicr]
#19280241 - 12/15/13 05:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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variety?
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: cronicr]
#19280285 - 12/15/13 05:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Plate number 1 variety. It's either Creeper or AA+ I have no clue what plate no.1 has on it as far as genetics but it looks like a monoculture.
If my memory serves me right plate no1 and plate no3 were the same variety so it's probably creeper
 Does this plate look like a monoculture?
plate no3 dish doing the invitro thang yo!
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19280302 - 12/15/13 05:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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 i'm about as bad as it gets when it comes to labeling cubes lol
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: cronicr]
#19280314 - 12/15/13 05:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said:
 i'm about as bad as it gets when it comes to labeling cubes lol
I'm at least using some sort of labels now. Used to be none but that got confusing.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19280328 - 12/15/13 05:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah i use to try the"i'll just remember that this one here is" thing but it never plays out and i forget whats what before i even leave the room lol
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: cronicr]
#19280671 - 12/15/13 06:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said:
 i'm about as bad as it gets when it comes to labeling cubes lol
I am obsessed with labels. It is important to know the full process for me at any time. I can look at any of my tubs, and tell you how many jars of grain, what type of grain and how it was inoculated....not to mention dates and times....
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i do my best not to ad dates, it's either clean or contammed colonized or colonizing, dates just push my patients lol
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: cronicr]
#19280704 - 12/15/13 07:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said: i do my best not to ad dates, it's either clean or contammed colonized or colonizing, dates just push my patients lol
 on occasion I will date just to see what my colonization times are.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19280711 - 12/15/13 07:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta said: on occasion I will date just to see what my colonization times are.
Once you get a process together, its nice to be able to do things and know that you can shave a few hours here and there....I am getting parts of the process fairly well streamlined. I have been regularly harvesting within 30 days of inoculation of grain because of this.
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Isn't coir not considered a casing anymore?
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19280763 - 12/15/13 07:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sgt. Pepper said: Isn't coir not considered a casing anymore?
yea, but I used it like one. I was hoping it wouldn't confuse any one.
So for clarification it's not a casing, but it's not spawned to bulk, it's "cased" with bulk I suppose.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19280948 - 12/15/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i know someone who still uses coir/verm for a casing and it works great for him, i wouldn't say it's not considered one just not widely used
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19280972 - 12/15/13 07:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sgt. Pepper said: Isn't coir not considered a casing anymore?
http://www.shroomery.org/5219/What-different-casing-layer-ingredients-are-there
I have used coir as a component of casing in the past with success.
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Fair enough, you guys know what your doing. I just didn't know it still had any credibility. It was my mislead understanding that it had completely lost it's value as a casing.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19282697 - 12/16/13 07:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sgt. Pepper said: Fair enough, you guys know what your doing. I just didn't know it still had any credibility. It was my mislead understanding that it had completely lost it's value as a casing.
Haha, I doubt that I have half a clue lol. I have late cased bulk subs with straight coir with success. I personally think that coir has very little nutes...only slightly more than peat. I am not sold that there is much nutes in coir seeing how you can let it out damp for months and it won't mold over. I think (With "coir" bulk) a bulk of yield is based on the amount of grain spawn, the amount of water in the substrate and the total surface area of the fruiting area. Just my personal opinion.
Funny as it sounds, I was in the process of running an isolate in 2 tubs...one with coir/verm and one with peat/verm to compare output. Though I think there will be differences in yield, I doubt they will be as dramatic as some believe.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19282721 - 12/16/13 07:58 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Is that the normal amount of casing you add? The depth? It seems like a thin layer of grain, then (almost) equal amount of casing?
Not giving you a hard time just curious.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: SuperSillyUs]
#19282816 - 12/16/13 08:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Haha, I doubt that I have half a clue lol. I have late cased bulk subs with straight coir with success. I personally think that coir has very little nutes...only slightly more than peat. I am not sold that there is much nutes in coir seeing how you can let it out damp for months and it won't mold over. I think (With "coir" bulk) a bulk of yield is based on the amount of grain spawn, the amount of water in the substrate and the total surface area of the fruiting area. Just my personal opinion.
Funny as it sounds, I was in the process of running an isolate in 2 tubs...one with coir/verm and one with peat/verm to compare output. Though I think there will be differences in yield, I doubt they will be as dramatic as some believe.
That's an interesting test you have going there. Keep us posted with the results. As far as I know, the reason coir doesn't contam is because spores have a hard time developing on it, not because it lacks nutrients. If you put a tiny amount of trich mycelium on it, it would tear through the coir.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19282926 - 12/16/13 09:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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So I should probably fruit this thing when I see like 20-30% of the surface covered with mycelium aye?
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19283054 - 12/16/13 10:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sgt. Pepper said: That's an interesting test you have going there. Keep us posted with the results. As far as I know, the reason coir doesn't contam is because spores have a hard time developing on it, not because it lacks nutrients. If you put a tiny amount of trich mycelium on it, it would tear through the coir.
Trich will rip through peat also. Another thing that I pondered is that 50/50% peat/verm casing will be fully colonized by the end of the first flush. Pretty much same for the coir counterpart.
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bodhisatta said: So I should probably fruit this thing when I see like 20-30% of the surface covered with mycelium aye?
I would. Im guessing that you may have some issues with side pins.
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Side pins will be fine. I'm really just curious how it's going to behave.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19285198 - 12/16/13 05:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Soo, is that the normal amount of 'casing' you put, or what? Looks kinda deep...
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19285404 - 12/16/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta said:

I just microwaved the shit out of some coir/verm closer to a 60/40 mix, it's definitely sterilized not pasteurized. 3 quarts of colonized grain not dunked and then a big thick layer of casing. We'll see what happens.
Note-I am still new to cultivating mushrooms , I am making mistakes and learning from my mistakes. I will never stop learning and making mistakes.
I did this exact setup only difference I soaked my grains and it was my best performer so far.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19285415 - 12/16/13 06:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta said:

I just microwaved the shit out of some coir/verm closer to a 60/40 mix, it's definitely sterilized not pasteurized. 3 quarts of colonized grain not dunked and then a big thick layer of casing. We'll see what happens.
Bet the mycelium rips right through that coir.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: SuperSillyUs] 1
#19285491 - 12/16/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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SuperSillyUs said: Soo, is that the normal amount of 'casing' you put, or what? Looks kinda deep...
I just threw this together with no real rhyme or reason. It is pretty deep though.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19285738 - 12/16/13 08:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Keep us posted on the results. Im very interested in how that will turn out. Iv often considered trying the same thing
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: MudaFuka]
#19287729 - 12/17/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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MudaFuka said: Keep us posted on the results. Im very interested in how that will turn out. Iv often considered trying the same thing
I'm thinking I would have better results had I just mixed the two together rather than laying the (bulk substrate used as a casing) on top.
It's 3 quarts of spawn in there so if I get higher yields than my usual tub that's probably why. I often use 2q spawn and 2q sub in those shoeboxes or sometimes 1q spawn 3q sub.
This casing was about 1/2 quart which still came out pretty darn thick.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19289745 - 12/17/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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1 spawn to 2 sub has never failed me but I'm a g2g fanatic so I always have lots of spawn on hand to try new things with.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: MudaFuka]
#19297341 - 12/19/13 10:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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first signs of mycelium poking through the casing today
Nothing glamorous enough to take a picture it's like the size of a dime in one spot
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19315727 - 12/23/13 11:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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kind of forgot about this one. No room to fruit it. Holiday too so no time for pictures, but I see a pin or two on the side so hopefully in a few days !!
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19315764 - 12/23/13 11:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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just put some wrinkled wax paper over it, fuck the holidays show me a pic
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: cronicr]
#19343895 - 12/29/13 10:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well the top is like 30-40% I don't have any room to put it into fruiting conditions so I just have the lid ajar. Lots of side pins at the grain/casing line
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: cronicr]
#19343915 - 12/29/13 10:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said: just put some wrinkled wax paper over it, fuck the holidays show me a pic;)
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: cronicr]
#19343926 - 12/29/13 10:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said: just put some wrinkled wax paper over it, fuck the holidays show me a pic;)

haha I'll get a pic during the day probably not tomorrow though it's a day off for me.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19350158 - 12/31/13 08:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19350377 - 12/31/13 09:20 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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That casing looks pretty dry.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: MudaFuka]
#19350410 - 12/31/13 09:34 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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MudaFuka said: That casing looks pretty dry.
Yea, I gave it a hefty mist after I snapped the picture. I had the container's lid on up until now. Now it's in fruiting conditions.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19350768 - 12/31/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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is that in an FC yet?
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: blindingleaf]
#19350961 - 12/31/13 12:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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blindingleaf said: is that in an FC yet?
My SGFC is full but I have it in pesudo fruiting conditions. The lid is off and I'm misting it 10+ times a day(it drys out pretty quick), plenty of FAE since it's on a shelf. I'm really just trying to give it what it needs at this point. I've got sort of a tent thing going on with a ajar tub on top of the tub it's in.
I'm not seeing any aborts yet so hopefully I'm doing something right.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19351178 - 12/31/13 01:28 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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cool. i may have added too much hydrated lime to my first casing. 50/50 peat/verm. i used 1 tsp per cup of peat from RR suggestions, maybe the peat i got is a bit less acidic, so i have more casing pasteurizing now with less lime. also have a bucket rdy to case of PR. got GGMM for x has, and stamets suggests a bit of coconut husk fiber in a peat casing, so i threw maybe 10% in there. ur grows keep me motivated!
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: blindingleaf]
#19352560 - 12/31/13 08:00 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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you know what I'm up to...

Happy new years.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19352571 - 12/31/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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Have fun I be debating on stones or APE
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19352615 - 12/31/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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lucky bastards! i have to make hoagies for drunk ppl! i couldn't say no to the time and a half...money is tight, but i hooked my friends up and told them to take extra for me. i indulged last night
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19352618 - 12/31/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Have fun I be debating on stones or APE
should be simple. LOTS of both obviously
bodhisatta:
Do you have something that you can "dub-tub" that with...would running a piece of saran wrap over the top and popping a few holes in it for ge/fae work better than the lid off?...hell if saran would work, so would cardboard.
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Whippy said:
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Pastywhyte said: Have fun I be debating on stones or APE
should be simple. LOTS of both obviously
Last time I ate those APE I had 2.5 grams and ended up on the floor. Lots of those is not an option.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19352645 - 12/31/13 08:21 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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4.5g half aa+ half creeper
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19352653 - 12/31/13 08:23 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19352655 - 12/31/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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my trip last week or whenever has me second guessing myself right now, maybe a nice dose of pellies or a quad of acid is in order
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: cronicr]
#19352667 - 12/31/13 08:25 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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cronicr said: my trip last week or whenever has me second guessing myself right now, maybe a nice dose of pellies or a quad of acid is in order
Was on the 21st
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: Pastywhyte]
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still feels like yesterday was fucking intense lol!
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: cronicr]
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cronicr said: still feels like yesterday:( was fucking intense lol!
give it time. The feelings will fade, while the memories will live on. Some things cannot be explained outside the circle at times. I still have a whole laundry basket full of "paranormal" that happened when I was all fucked up. Accept what you see as possible future truths, assess the outcome, and you have the opportunity to change based on the horrors that were presented.
My "overdoses" have always been spiritual and fulfilling. Scary, and foretelling at times. I am getting goosebumps right now thinking back to my last experience. Knowing the inevitable losses of good friends makes it hard to accept, but there is something sick about seeing the future.....not to mention when a few of us saw it that night. I have myself not decided if I would ever eat a mushroom again. The things that you see and do shape your future in ways you cannot comprehend. Take a breath and enjoy the "real" world for what it is. It may be dull and ugly, but its solid.
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Most of the fruits look like garbage and are way to dry even with an awful lot of misting, Also from all the misting some of the stems are starting to look orange, I'll take a picture tomorrow probably, I can't get to it today. It's just too bad there wasn't enough room in my fruiting chamber for it. Oh well there's always the second flush
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19373550 - 01/05/14 03:44 PM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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Time for you to build a new FC.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19374698 - 01/05/14 08:35 PM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Time for you to build a new FC.
my place is to small  I'm probably going to try out violet's in vitro jars or something along those lines down the road but right now I've got enough things going on.
I'm making swabs right now of creeper, Making like 20 of them in one go here. So PM my inbox and we can arrange.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: cronicr]
#19374725 - 01/05/14 08:42 PM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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updated with pics in the last post, I know the casing looks dry I just got home though.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19374737 - 01/05/14 08:45 PM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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great stuff bodhisatta! oh and creeper swab
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: cronicr]
#19375974 - 01/06/14 06:30 AM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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those stems are thick! is that what creepers always look like?
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: blindingleaf]
#19376636 - 01/06/14 10:16 AM (10 years, 25 days ago) |
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blindingleaf said: those stems are thick! is that what creepers always look like?
at least for me yea, I gave a few people 7 grams they split it 3 ways and everyone said it was the strongest trip they had ever done, not that I care about what they have to say. I had 2.25AA+ and 2.25creeper for new years and it was strong, not mind bending, but then again when I've ate 14g I didn't think it was all that mind bending either. I just always seem to have manageable trips, not that im not tripping balls but it's not like what most people say about their trips 
My creeper fruits always are tending to be that way though regardless of what culture/strains of creeper I use.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19377545 - 01/06/14 02:37 PM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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nice! i hope u grow some again soon so we can trade. i have some violet tek stuff (burma, PR, tazmanian), but the ones about to fruit r by no means sterile. they are all cased, unless ur trading for regular prints too. lemme know!
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: blindingleaf]
#19381899 - 01/07/14 11:14 AM (10 years, 24 days ago) |
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We'll I harvested the fruits it made on the "first flush" made room in my fruiting chamber and now it's in there. Hopefully it will kick ass now.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19383189 - 01/07/14 03:37 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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awesome! i got some work to do tonight, i think I'm gonna try this. i have 1 qt extra spawn, and 2 small containers. i was thinking of splitting the spawn up, do one like urs (grains on bottom, coir/verm on top) and then one with either moist verm on bottom or coir/verm on bottom. any suggestions?
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: blindingleaf]
#19383195 - 01/07/14 03:37 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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mix evenly and skip the verm on bottom
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: cronicr]
#19383242 - 01/07/14 03:45 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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mix with grain u mean? i do that already though, i was gonna try doing what bodhi did, just to see, with straight grains then coir/verm on top
so skip bottom layer? check
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: blindingleaf]
#19383540 - 01/07/14 04:29 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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Yea skip the bottom layer. I would even say don't bother casing them just mix your "casing" the coir and verm in with the spawn like everyone does. I only did a casing rather than spawning my spawn to bulk as an experiment. If you want to try out a casing go for it though.
You could do 1.Coir+verm + Spawn all mixed and fruit it after 100% colonization (this is the "best way")
2. Spawn with a casing on top like what I did
or The first option and then add a casing layer when it's fully colonized and put it into fruiting right away.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19383546 - 01/07/14 04:30 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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i like option 3, 1/4 inch layer toss it into fruiting
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: cronicr]
#19383595 - 01/07/14 04:38 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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cronicr said: i like option 3, 1/4 inch layer toss it into fruiting
yep leme find you a link
here
Frank is using a 50/50 casing layer, I would just read from "Casing methods / How to apply the casing layer" onwards. You can substitute the coir+verm mix and use it as a casing layer.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19383638 - 01/07/14 04:48 PM (10 years, 23 days ago) |
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i have a bucket going like this now, except its maybe 1/3 inch. i did a 1/4 inch twice but i think hydrated lime was too much (weirdest looking mushrooms, really small and moist caps, 2nd flush coming along though, hopefully the lime is wearing off), have not tried it with a reduced hydrated lime. ill take pics when i wake up. had long overnight then went to PA farm show directly without sleep! AWESOME mushroom growers there btw got to ask a lot of questions. all white button experiments at penn state but still, it was cool
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: blindingleaf]
#19408018 - 01/12/14 11:54 AM (10 years, 19 days ago) |
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sorry it's a little blurry, The second flush is coming in with WAY LESS side pins, There's probably close to 100 pins on the top that are just coming in, I thinking this second flush will be nice.
Also I made a few tubs yesterday and had leftover spawn+substrate so I made a tub with 1 inch depth. 
it's already like 40-50% colonized and it's only been two days
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19417080 - 01/14/14 12:07 PM (10 years, 17 days ago) |
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I guess this is the 2nd flush 
I'm a bit worried about that super white spot growing over the stumps on the long side in the middle. Perhaps its green mold mycelium?
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19417286 - 01/14/14 01:00 PM (10 years, 16 days ago) |
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Along the edge right? Does look a bit trichy.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19417322 - 01/14/14 01:10 PM (10 years, 16 days ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Along the edge right? Does look a bit trichy.
yea, the middle left at least I'll be able to harvest these at medium size if it does turn green
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19417325 - 01/14/14 01:11 PM (10 years, 16 days ago) |
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I would salt that just to be sure. If it comes back then let it finish the flush and toss it.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19417329 - 01/14/14 01:12 PM (10 years, 16 days ago) |
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: cronicr]
#19417427 - 01/14/14 01:42 PM (10 years, 16 days ago) |
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Nah man I bet I fan peroxide it and use a sterile spoon to get it out :hehe:
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19417436 - 01/14/14 01:46 PM (10 years, 16 days ago) |
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Lol, I'd wait for it to turn green. What was the final yield on this one?
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19417509 - 01/14/14 02:00 PM (10 years, 16 days ago) |
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Beats me I still have to harvest the pictured flush. Flush no 1 was weak like maybe 14g dry
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
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bodhisatta said: Beats me I still have to harvest the pictured flush. Flush no 1 was weak like maybe 14g dry
That's still good, we growers forget how much 14 grams is! A non grower would have to pay tons for that much and you got it for free!
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19417576 - 01/14/14 02:22 PM (10 years, 16 days ago) |
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Real weak for 3quarts of grain though. Second flush wont be that much either it looks
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19417628 - 01/14/14 02:36 PM (10 years, 16 days ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Real weak for 3quarts of grain though. Second flush wont be that much either it looks
That's too bad, maybe they need some water, as you probably know that cased grains don't hold much water compared to bulk substrates.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19417635 - 01/14/14 02:38 PM (10 years, 16 days ago) |
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I've been watering them a lot, that and using sterilized coir and such a thick casing layer is probably why it went so poorly
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19417659 - 01/14/14 02:43 PM (10 years, 16 days ago) |
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bodhisatta said: I've been watering them a lot, that and using sterilized coir and such a thick casing layer is probably why it went so poorly
Darn, better luck next time. You could go the way of the v-tek and keep watering and fruiting it until the 7th flush.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19417671 - 01/14/14 02:45 PM (10 years, 16 days ago) |
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Coulda shoulda lol
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
#19427791 - 01/16/14 12:22 PM (10 years, 15 days ago) |
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Welp I tried salting and pouring alcohol on the spots to hold it off to let the mushrooms grow a little, next day it was already greening up in other spots so it's tossed. Harvested what I could. It's somewhere in the less than 3/4oz dry for the whole yield first flush and this second flush. 3 quarts of spawn and a small microwaved casing layer of coir is a bad idea in my book
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: bodhisatta]
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bodhisatta said: 3 quarts of spawn and a small microwaved casing layer of coir is a bad idea in my book 
Mine too
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: Violet]
#19427833 - 01/16/14 12:35 PM (10 years, 15 days ago) |
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you were really just playing around anyway went you?
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: MudaFuka]
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At least now you know what not to do, and you've got about 20 grams of shrooms! Go enjoy the fruits of your effort with 6 of your closest friends!
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
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Sgt. Pepper said: At least now you know what not to do, and you've got about 20 grams of shrooms! Go enjoy the fruits of your effort with 6 of your closest friends!
Id tell at least 4 of those friends to stay home.lol
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: MudaFuka]
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Id tell at least 4 of those friends to stay home.lol
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: MudaFuka]
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Sgt. Pepper said: At least now you know what not to do, and you've got about 20 grams of shrooms! Go enjoy the fruits of your effort with 6 of your closest friends!
Id tell at least 4 of those friends to stay home.lol
Lol, to each their own, I might even invite 7 or 8, or 3 several times. Haha.
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Re: Just for fun, Cased straight grains [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
#19428063 - 01/16/14 01:27 PM (10 years, 14 days ago) |
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I really only did it because I didn't have anywhere to put the spawn to good use at, there was really no more room and it was at 100%. I could have saved it I guess but what ever too much spawn is a good problem I guess.
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