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InvisibleNecroMyce
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Where to start, casing.
    #19271806 - 12/13/13 05:39 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So i feel like im making this too complicated again. Im not sure what to do when it comes to casing layer. my mono is basically 100% colonized almost. and ive read around and found lots of things. Ive also found you dont even really need a casing layer. buuutt i want to increase yield and get the most out of my work.
ive found
60/40 verm and coir.
http://www.shroomery.org/55/60-40-Vermiculite-and-Coco-Coir-Casing-Tek

ive heard it works great if you do it right but if not it sucks ass.

perlite?
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6406785#6406785

Also have heard something with peat moss. i want to do the simplest one that will also do some advantage to my work.

im really confused


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19271815 - 12/13/13 05:43 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: cronicr]
    #19271828 - 12/13/13 05:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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i prefer 50/50 peat/verm, never use perlite

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18880716#18880716



:whathesaid:


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InvisibleNecroMyce
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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: blueconfusion]
    #19273743 - 12/14/13 08:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks guys, planning on doing that basically just how i prepped my coir/verm sub, but in a giant zip lock gallon bag. to save my spawn bags, you think that'll be okay?


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19273776 - 12/14/13 08:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Franks 50/50 tek has greatly increased my yields and takes no more effort really than doing cakes imo


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19273885 - 12/14/13 09:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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never use perlite




Perlite is nice in casing layers because it creates lots of air pockets near the mycelium which help to stimulate pinning.
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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #19275557 - 12/14/13 04:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

What about this that I just picked up? Using franks tek?


If this will work for me then dope. But after I wanna get bulk materials for casing and mix them. Any ratios? The tek didn't have any


Edited by NecroMyce (12/14/13 04:53 PM)


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #19275585 - 12/14/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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never use perlite




Perlite is nice in casing layers because it creates lots of air pockets near the mycelium which help to stimulate pinning.
RR



oops i never actually clicked the link, yes it's fine in your mix just neveruse strait perlite lol
as for your stuff there do a quick search on the dolomite lime and mag content


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19277935 - 12/15/13 06:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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CaspuuuR said:
What about this that I just picked up? Using franks tek?


If this will work for me then dope. But after I wanna get bulk materials for casing and mix them. Any ratios? The tek didn't have any



Love black Gold


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: cronicr]
    #19278429 - 12/15/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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cronicr said:
Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
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never use perlite




Perlite is nice in casing layers because it creates lots of air pockets near the mycelium which help to stimulate pinning.
RR



oops i never actually clicked the link, yes it's fine in your mix just neveruse strait perlite lol
as for your stuff there do a quick search on the dolomite lime and mag content




lame recovery. why would you put up a link to teach people but not read it yourself:facepalm3:


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #19278501 - 12/15/13 10:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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RogerRabbit said:
Quote:


never use perlite




Perlite is nice in casing layers because it creates lots of air pockets near the mycelium which help to stimulate pinning.
RR




Also, non-nutritious, right?


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: King of Pain]
    #19278612 - 12/15/13 10:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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justncyn said:
Quote:

cronicr said:
Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
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never use perlite




Perlite is nice in casing layers because it creates lots of air pockets near the mycelium which help to stimulate pinning.
RR



oops i never actually clicked the link, yes it's fine in your mix just neveruse strait perlite lol
as for your stuff there do a quick search on the dolomite lime and mag content




lame recovery. why would you put up a link to teach people but not read it yourself:facepalm3:



i never put the link up:shrug:
i linked him to what i use i was speaking about his link with perlite lol
i'll give u an a for effort though


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: cronicr]
    #19279246 - 12/15/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I have a no pasteurization, no contam casing Tek in my sig that utilises polymer water crystals and vermiculite


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: cronicr]
    #19281772 - 12/15/13 11:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

RR



oops i never actually clicked the link, yes it's fine in your mix just neveruse strait perlite lol
as for your stuff there do a quick search on the dolomite lime and mag content




lame recovery. why would you put up a link to teach people but not read it yourself:facepalm3:



i never put the link up:shrug:
i linked him to what i use i was speaking about his link with perlite lol
i'll give u an a for effort though





hahah oh cronic...

thanks for the help mayne. i always have your feedback, appreciate it a lot. and that last reply made me lmao hahhahahah


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: blueconfusion]
    #19281778 - 12/15/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

blueconfusion said:
Quote:

CaspuuuR said:
What about this that I just picked up? Using franks tek?


If this will work for me then dope. But after I wanna get bulk materials for casing and mix them. Any ratios? The tek didn't have any



Love black Gold




I fuckin love your picture dude, its sick AF!

I'm assuming you've had great success with the black gold seedling starter mix? sorry for not just posting black gold. i didnt even think of it.


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19282259 - 12/16/13 02:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

so i was pastuerizing my casing then i noticed i missed a sharp piece of someting in the mix and it popped a hole in the bag, anyway to save it? it doesnt look muddy, but it does look super moist. i can always just start another one but thats like 3 hours of work down the drain


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19282347 - 12/16/13 03:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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CaspuuuR said:
Quote:

blueconfusion said:
Quote:

CaspuuuR said:
What about this that I just picked up? Using franks tek?


If this will work for me then dope. But after I wanna get bulk materials for casing and mix them. Any ratios? The tek didn't have any



Love black Gold




I fuckin love your picture dude, its sick AF!

I'm assuming you've had great success with the black gold seedling starter mix? sorry for not just posting black gold. i didnt even think of it.



No I used to use black Gold and ocean forest for another hobby I had:lol:


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: blueconfusion]
    #19282381 - 12/16/13 04:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

fuck it


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: NecroMyce]
    #19282396 - 12/16/13 04:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Jiffy organic seed starter.  Moisten to field capacity & pasteurize.  Simple as can be.


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Re: Where to start, casing. [Re: grainbrain]
    #19282633 - 12/16/13 07:00 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Don't use peat moss

It's nutrient filled and susceptable to trich contamination. It makes a better substrate than casing IMO

Plus it needs to be pasteurized to be used, just adding another vector for failure if not carried out properly

I'm not saying it doesn't work, just not efficient, cheap, or as clean as other alternatives.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=17538438&page=0&vc=1#17538438


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Edited by WillSolvem (12/16/13 07:05 AM)


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