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#19277833 - 12/15/13 05:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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lets say that there were two forces that were opposite another, for simples sake.
lets call one bad, one good. everything is good, bad is detrimental to what is good. good can exist without bad, but two opposing forces must oppose one another so the attempt to overcome one another.
everything is bad, good is detrimental to what is bad. bad can exist without good, but opposing forces must oppose one another.
bad and good are moronic examples, do you get the point?
y we so dumb.
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#19277875 - 12/15/13 06:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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u high?
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lil bit yeah.
the above make sense?
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Re: The Others [Re: hTx]
#19277880 - 12/15/13 06:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not to me, sorry.
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its about perception.
what is it inside us that even discerns wrong from right?
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Re: The Others [Re: hTx]
#19277917 - 12/15/13 06:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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the brain
how does the brain tell right from wrong? imo, it seems to trace back to right being associated with beneficial actions to personal survival and the tribes survival. i.e. love your neighbor, because a community that loves one another is more stable, and is less likely to fall apart internally.
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I think that's just instinct, right?
when we think something is wrong we are looking for something right..alright cool. progress yo.
but when something is right..we look for something wrong.
progress?
"its to perfect.."
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Re: The Others [Re: hTx]
#19277945 - 12/15/13 06:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah, true. It's the worst when I'm done with all my responsibilities for the day, and my mind is still trying to find a problem to solve.
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gad my mind is always like that
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Re: The Others [Re: quinn]
#19277983 - 12/15/13 07:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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im pretty paranoid (tho have been improving)
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Re: The Others [Re: quinn]
#19277996 - 12/15/13 07:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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light can exist alone, just as dark can.
one alone, and we are blind.
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Re: The Others [Re: hTx]
#19278028 - 12/15/13 07:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: The Others [Re: hTx]
#19278032 - 12/15/13 07:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
hTx said: its about perception.
what is it inside us that even discerns wrong from right?
Its not inside us, it is us. Right and wrong wouldn't even exist without these brains walking around.
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#19278044 - 12/15/13 07:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
quinn said: gad my mind is always like that
I find computer games help cause it gives my mind a problem to solve that doesn't seem like a chore.
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Re: The Others [Re: Tropism]
#19278053 - 12/15/13 07:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tropism said:
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hTx said: its about perception.
what is it inside us that even discerns wrong from right?
Its not inside us, it is us. Right and wrong wouldn't even exist without these brains walking around.
your brain isn't inside you?
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Re: The Others [Re: hTx]
#19278074 - 12/15/13 07:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I just mean to say I think of it less as an unknown mechanism inside me, and rather it is me myself who does this tireless judging.
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Re: The Others [Re: Tropism]
#19278091 - 12/15/13 07:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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kind of an odd question..eh?
i mean, if you're a brain atleast. if your a brain how can your brain be inside you?
dirty.
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Re: The Others [Re: hTx]
#19278096 - 12/15/13 07:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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and you yourself are a known mechanism?
do tell
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Re: The Others [Re: hTx]
#19278237 - 12/15/13 08:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Indeed I am. Brain needs to stay alive, needs thing to drive body and navigate material world. Voila: self. A mechanism with a purpose.
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Re: The Others [Re: Tropism]
#19278488 - 12/15/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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so you believe in purpose than?
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Re: The Others [Re: hTx]
#19278506 - 12/15/13 10:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Seems more likely existence precedes essence imo if that's what you're getting at, but that doesn't mean things cannot have a function --evolutionary or otherwise. I think if there was a purpose to all of this we'd just be making it up. It would be nice like a security blanket but it wouldn't mean anything.
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#19278534 - 12/15/13 10:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I guess your right. it wouldmt mean anything. but maybe meaning is what's not an illusion.
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#19278680 - 12/15/13 10:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey I have nothing against the security blanket, in fact I think everyone has/needs one. We find meaning where we make it, and it is imo important to create meaning for ourselves to make it through this life. I remember getting lost in nihilistic pondering of insignificance and meaninglessness, feeling the helplessness of it all, and it was a small comfort to reflect on childhood and realize this new discovery didn't invalidate the meaning I hadfound throughout it. We grow out of those things but they're still close to heart, kept as fond memories, and sometimes they are about tiny insignificant details or moments or objects. The pattern of what is meaningful and what is not can be fairly illogical sometimes and I don't know if that matters. Seems to me meaning doesn't really have much to do with any pursuit of truth, its something we create when we let ourselves get attached to anything deeply enough or let it be a apart of our self-definition in some way, or sometimes just because things are pretty for a moment.  I can find meaning in something now and not care for it later and it still will have served a fine purpose: the purpose of getting through this life. Gotta keep finding those security blankets. Learn to knit if you have to.
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Re: The Others [Re: Tropism]
#19279222 - 12/15/13 12:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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