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Re: Hitting children [Re: Legend] * 1
    #19277387 - 12/15/13 01:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Exactly. And that kind of shit was the norm back then. I dont blame the people of that time, at that time that was considered normal and right. But these days we know better. because we actually have science about it. I forgive the people who did it then, but today we should know better.


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Re: Hitting children [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19277391 - 12/15/13 01:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

WE should, but people are still the same. you know?


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Re: Hitting children [Re: tito123] * 2
    #19277398 - 12/15/13 01:09 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

are you fucking kidding me?:facepalm3:

spanking your child when they deserve it makes for a better child in the short and long term. i was spanked as a child and i didnt stomp my feet in the middel of the store when i didnt get what i wanted. i see all these people who tell there kids no no and its time for a time out in the corner and yet there 8 yo tells to fuck off and do what ever they want.

when i grew up the things thats struck fear into my heart was "you got to the count of three" and "do you want me to give you a reason to cry?" looking back it was only when it was necessary.

it pisses me of so bad when people say "spanking" your child is wrong. yet there kid is acting like a stupid little brat crying and saying i hate you because they didnt get there ice cream.

i was spanked as a child when i stepped out of line. i was told once, warned second and if i didnt listen i got a few firm smacks on the bottom. it really didnt hurt but knowing the consequence of my actions stopped me from acting like a brat and show a little respect for my parents and elders and helped me turn into the respectful and decent person i am today.

i thank my parents for poping me on the ass when i needed it.



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Re: Hitting children [Re: evileye001]
    #19277421 - 12/15/13 01:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Wow.  Your parents patted you on your bottom when you were a toddler.

What's your opinion on whipping a kid with belts, paddles, or switches?  how about bruises and welts?


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Re: Hitting children [Re: tito123]
    #19277448 - 12/15/13 01:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I believe it is fine once they start becoming boisterous teenagers. Keep them in line, because otherwise you might end up with a 12 year old crack smoking prostitute that goes on the Maury show and brags about joining gangs and beating their parents. :bored:

But little kids, no. When you hit small children, they are too young to understand the message behind your physical punishment. All they feel is that you do not love them when you lash out at them physically.

Teenagers are older and more capable of understanding, and they also have the mentality that they probably deserved it when they do something bad. Hitting a teenager does not scar or traumatize or hurt them deeply in a way that children do when the same thing is done to them.


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Re: Hitting children [Re: evileye001] * 3
    #19277451 - 12/15/13 01:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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evileye001 said:
spanking your child when they deserve it makes for a better child in the short and long term. i was spanked as a child and i didnt stomp my feet in the middel of the store when i didnt get what i wanted. i see all these people who tell there kids no no and its time for a time out in the corner and yet there 8 yo tells to fuck off and do what ever they want.





Actually the best (and most pacifist) way of stopping a child from throwing a tantrum is by kneeling down to their level, and hugging them very tightly. Hold your embrace until they stop. Children throw temper tantrums when they feel very alone in the world. They become confused and their voice becomes quieter and quieter until they are just sniffles and hiccups. :love:


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Re: Hitting children [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19277456 - 12/15/13 01:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

An adult should never hit a child.  Other methods are much more effective at teaching positive behaviors.

here's a good book that offers a way better solution to discipline:



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Re: Hitting children [Re: Crystal G]
    #19277458 - 12/15/13 01:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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evileye001 said:
spanking your child when they deserve it makes for a better child in the short and long term. i was spanked as a child and i didnt stomp my feet in the middel of the store when i didnt get what i wanted. i see all these people who tell there kids no no and its time for a time out in the corner and yet there 8 yo tells to fuck off and do what ever they want.





Actually the best (and most pacifist) way of stopping a child from throwing a tantrum is by kneeling down to their level, and hugging them very tightly. Hold your embrace until they stop. Children throw temper tantrums when they feel very alone in the world. They become confused and their voice becomes quieter and quieter until they are just sniffles and hiccups. :love:




woah that is an awesome technique crystal, thanks for sharing that tid bit


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Re: Hitting children [Re: Legend] * 1
    #19277463 - 12/15/13 01:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Your welcome, Legend. Anything to provide alternative tactics than resorting to physical violence.

And to answer your other question:

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do you guys think that a father spanking their daughter is punishment, or sexual abuse? seeing as it's a slap on the ass




No I don't think it constitutes sexual abuse. It's not molestation when fathers allow their little girls to sit on their lap, is it? It's not sexual abuse or molestation unless the father has a boner or is receiving some sort of sexual satisfaction from it.


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Re: Hitting children [Re: tito123]
    #19277468 - 12/15/13 01:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Wow.  Your parents patted you on your bottom when you were a toddler.

What's your opinion on whipping a kid with belts, paddles, or switches?  how about bruises and welts?




no my parents patted me on the bottem when i was old enough to know wrong from right 5+ yo. belts are only for intimadatiom. hell i think the belt hurt less then the hand because they knew they were using a belt and held back even more. but that sound of a belt coming off was usualy all it took and i was respectful and didnt even need a spanking. paddels are a bit extremem/switches are a bit extreame in the right hands.

bruises and welts? really? just really? :rolleyes:

i NEVER had a sign of being popped. i got bruises from being a normal child but NEVER from my parents. its not about the pain and hurting you child... the simple fact of knowing there are consequences you dont like from acting out in a ridiculous manor was the force in play. it was enough to feel but never 2 min later would i ever even know that something happened other then the memory.

beating your child is WRONG!

when i was clearly told not to do something, didnt listen, warned again and didnt listen i was spanked.

i then listen

i was not beaten.


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Re: Hitting children [Re: Legend]
    #19277469 - 12/15/13 01:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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do you guys think that a father spanking their daughter is punishment, or sexual abuse? seeing as it's a slap on the ass



No, it's not sexual abuse.  But it is child abuse.


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Re: Hitting children [Re: Set]
    #19277482 - 12/15/13 01:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

detention? no! no! please i wont, please i wont curse again!

you want a spanking?

7 seconds. same effect. no mental/physical affects.

i slap my gf's ass harder then my parents did mine when i was a child... just saying...


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Re: Hitting children [Re: evileye001]
    #19277487 - 12/15/13 02:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Posting for the lolz


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Re: Hitting children [Re: Mescalean]
    #19277490 - 12/15/13 02:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

booo fucking hoo

i dont think its that bad BUT


kids should never have marks
and it shouldnt be for bullshit reasons....you know just because your mad about your shitty day or something.


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Re: Hitting children [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19277493 - 12/15/13 02:05 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I think corporal punishment on human children is unnecessary, but comparing it to sexual abuse for a boy anyway is ridiculous. Now maybe I would have gotten over it if I had been molested as a child, but I doubt it. I'd take an ass whooping every time

Hitting a kid could just be poor parenting. It works it's just not a good sign when every problem you face with your child you're not clever enough to come up with a solution that doesn't involve pain. Obviously this excludes extreme abuse that leave permanent damage.

Sexual abuse on the other hand in my mind requires the most depraved mind imaginable. Especially on your own children. Maybe it is just a social taboo, but for fucks sake it seems like just about the most terrible thing a human could do. On the same level of infanticide. Even the most "benign" forms


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Re: Hitting children [Re: evileye001]
    #19277496 - 12/15/13 02:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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evileye001 said:
7 seconds. same effect. no mental/physical affects.

i slap my gf's ass harder then my parents did mine when i was a child... just saying...



You should probably start dating adults.


Unless your girlfriend is an adult, then your post is irrelevant to childhood trauma.


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Re: Hitting children [Re: Set]
    #19277528 - 12/15/13 02:23 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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lunarpiscean said:
booo fucking hoo

i dont think its that bad BUT


kids should never have marks
and it shouldnt be for bullshit reasons....you know just because your mad about your shitty day or something.




exactly


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Set said:
Quote:

evileye001 said:
7 seconds. same effect. no mental/physical affects.

i slap my gf's ass harder then my parents did mine when i was a child... just saying...



You should probably start dating adults.


Unless your girlfriend is an adult, then your post is irrelevant to childhood trauma.




:ifindthisboring:

im 23 she is 21.

point being the erotic smack i give her is harder then i would spank my child and harder then i was ever spanked.

:lol:

wow. just wow.


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Re: Hitting children [Re: evileye001]
    #19277547 - 12/15/13 02:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

pain tolerance is a lot lower when you're a kid....seriously.



edit: mine was, anyways


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Re: Hitting children [Re: lunarpiscean]
    #19277559 - 12/15/13 02:42 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

my meemaw was a crazy old lady.

she had a drawer full of paddles and even crazy paddles that had holes in them. i grew up with my 3 other cousins (boys) and sometimes she would hit the boys with whatever she had in her hands. one day it was a frying pan :lol:


i still remember trying so hard not to laugh because i didn't want to get  hit too.


she never actually hurt us though, just a crazy intimidating old lady.


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Re: Hitting children [Re: lunarpiscean]
    #19277576 - 12/15/13 02:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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lunarpiscean said:
pain tolerance is a lot lower when you're a kid....seriously.



edit: mine was, anyways



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