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winston wins Heisman
    #19277337 - 12/15/13 12:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i think they just like giving underclassmen the trophy now just to keep the hype and speculation well from running dry.
give it to johnny football and you get maybe 6 months of blood out of that turnip. this way you get yourself another Tebow and that is all they want.


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Re: winston wins Heisman [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19277472 - 12/15/13 01:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What are you even talking about?

Do you not believe winston is worthy of the heisman?
Who should have won it then? I swear to god if you say that stupid inbred fucker on alabama :facepalm:


Manziel is the greatest college student of all time don’t soil the mans name by comparing him to Tebow




godamnit that fucker is basically an american hero in my book.


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Re: winston wins Heisman [Re: elax420]
    #19277539 - 12/15/13 02:29 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Wow that girl is hot as fuck.

Wish I played 1st string qb on any televised college team  :feelsbadman:


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Re: winston wins Heisman [Re: Enjoywho]
    #19277659 - 12/15/13 03:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Tres Mason should've been 2nd not 6th.


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Re: winston wins Heisman [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #19278448 - 12/15/13 09:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Tres Mason should've been 2nd not 6th.




1st.


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Re: winston wins Heisman [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19278539 - 12/15/13 10:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

who did FSU play?

put it this way... if FSU had played alabama this year, do you think winston would still get the trophy? or even be on the ballot?


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Re: winston wins Heisman [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19278575 - 12/15/13 10:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe

A&M weren't undefeated last year and Manziel still won it. As far as being on the ballot, shit, no schedule could have kept him off the ballot.


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Re: winston wins Heisman [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #19278607 - 12/15/13 10:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I dont think a team needs to be undefeated, i just think they should have to play in a real league rather than beating up on schools like our sister of perpetual sorrow...


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Re: winston wins Heisman [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19278673 - 12/15/13 10:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Clemson Miami Maryland Syracuse Florida

All not only beaten but totally fucking assraped

I admit those names might not strike fear or in Florida's case an off year but still FSU wasn't just squeaking by they were cracking fucking heads.


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Re: winston wins Heisman [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19278763 - 12/15/13 10:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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who did FSU play?

put it this way... if FSU had played alabama this year, do you think winston would still get the trophy? or even be on the ballot?




Yes, FSU would have won too

Manziel won it last year.

:cookiemonster:


It doesn’t matter how you play its an award for the best athlete in college football. Those inbred fucks only get mentioned because they play at powerhouses loaded to the brim with inbred fucks.


Do you really think Mason, or McCarron are as integral to their teams success? if you do you are just being obstinant

Oh and btw manziel should have got 2.


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Re: winston wins Heisman [Re: elax420]
    #19279038 - 12/15/13 12:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

FSU would not have beaten bama. no way.

and out of that list of teams they played, i think only one is bowl eligible.

a one loss SEC team > undefeated team from any other conference.


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Re: winston wins Heisman [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19279632 - 12/15/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

God I hope Auburn loses so we can shut that shit up for a while.


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Re: winston wins Heisman [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #19279651 - 12/15/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i could see FSU beating auburn. the auburn pass D isn't anything great. the reason alabama would match up great against FSU is because they have a balanced D, but auburns run game is easily #1, which is why i think mason deserved it.

but it is an interesting game. you have the best pass O vs the best run O. but FSU is only considered the best pass O because other than Florida they really haven't gone up against a great D. but florida's defense was out on the field about 98% of all football time this year so that isn't saying much.


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Re: winston wins Heisman [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #19284470 - 12/16/13 03:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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God I hope Auburn loses so we can shut that shit up for a while.





Right??


you fucking southerners think some no name retard should win because he plays for a good team because of "my conference strength” instead of the legitimate best athlete in college football.

Florida....


Goood :lolsy:

SEC Delusion much?



They lost to like fucking mason dixon highshool this year right?


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Re: winston wins Heisman [Re: elax420]
    #19284652 - 12/16/13 03:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

sorry, but the SEC is currently, and has been for a while, heads and tails above all other conferences.

might as well start taking into consideration high school QBs then if strength of conference doesn't matter. some guy playing against schools who have to schedule their games around the badminton team practices shouldn't get to compare stats with teams that compete at the highest possible level.


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Re: winston wins Heisman [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19284921 - 12/16/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah UF is awful this year, so the sec isn't superior any more? Missouri just took their place in the east....that's how it works

btw Winston was an easy Heisman choice no hate coming from me.


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Re: winston wins Heisman [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19285230 - 12/16/13 05:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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sorry, but the SEC is currently, and has been for a while, heads and tails above all other conferences.

might as well start taking into consideration high school QBs then if strength of conference doesn't matter. some guy playing against schools who have to schedule their games around the badminton team practices shouldn't get to compare stats with teams that compete at the highest possible level.




Maybe a few years ago, sure
Right now, hell no.
Seems like you are a little late to the party man, you should watch more College football.


Personally i think “students" that have to schedule fucking their sisters and attending classes around football practice aren’t the highest level of anything.

Keep in mind some “institution of higher learning” gave this man a degree :lol:


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Re: winston wins Heisman [Re: elax420]
    #19285265 - 12/16/13 06:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

sorry, but academics really has no place in the heisman discussion. have you seen roddy whites tweets?

you could find any college that pushed through a functioning retard to better their football team.


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Re: winston wins Heisman [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19285306 - 12/16/13 06:20 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Find me one, a single one, from stanford.....

Ya i know thats not the point but you were trying to knock the ACC for actually having good schools, so i knocked the SEC for having terrible schools that only care about athletics. Im pretty sure roddy white went to some retarded southern school lol.



I just don’t get how you can make the argument that Winston wasn’t the clear cut Heisman. I don’t think I’ve seen one this clear cut in a long time......

Plus Kadeem Cary is the best back in college, Gurley is right up there too though, for your SEC love boner.


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Re: winston wins Heisman [Re: elax420]
    #19285368 - 12/16/13 06:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

He's the most clear cut since Cam.


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Re: winston wins Heisman [Re: elax420]
    #19285424 - 12/16/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

support his clear cut win without using his yardage/TD stats. because those stats are skewed by an easy schedule.
work on making a case through accuracy, or scramble ability, or pocket awareness. I see no amazing intangibles coming from this guy. most of the time i have watched him, he has 2 and 3 blazing WRs 8 steps beyond a CB and heaves it up. while those plays are fun to watch, it is more the WR than the QB. sub par QBs can heave it downfield to a 6'5" WR and make a completion.

you look at mason who was in there running the ball at an almost unheard of pace. you look at some great RBs like Tomlinson who put up slightly better numbers, but in the WAC, or how his stats look very similar to Herschel Walkers stats from georgia.

The era of the workhorse Rb is tapering off, but those guys are still some of the most impressive athletes out there. dude put up 4 TDs and 300+ yards averaging over 6 yards a carry in his 46 attempts in the SEC playoffs and threw down a 5.7 average against one of the toughest schedules this year.

just saying that if i went and played pee-wee football i would stand out and pull down MVP.

I think Winston got it for a couple reasons, and none of them have to do with him being "the best athlete". they want another tebow. and he has the stats and game tape to support it, even if it was against community colleges.


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Re: winston wins Heisman [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #19285433 - 12/16/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Winston ain't another Tebow. That doesn't even make sense.


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Re: winston wins Heisman [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #19285469 - 12/16/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i doubt anything will ever reach tebow proportions because Tebow was a PR agents wet dream. he was white, cheesily optimistic and had the heart of all the christians.

but i guess we got a game to see who shines better.


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    #19285766 - 12/16/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It sounds like you don’t even watch college ball you are just listing numbers of guys that were great in college and the NFL. It doesn’t work like that man heisman is not who is going to be the best in the pros, its who is the best NCAAF player of the year, that was inarguably Winston.

How  can you even compare him to tebow? one has a rape scandal one is known virgin at like 30 :rofl: Winston isn’t really a popular guy either. If it were popularity Manziel would have won it again, because he’s the only dude with any semblance of personality.


Trey Mason isn’t even the Top back in college how the fuck can you say he deserves the Heisman? You are just jumping on a half assed bandwagon that has had a 3 game lifespan.


NO one was even talking about Auburn until late october, no one cared until they beat Georgia.


Like i said not even the top back, arguably not even top 3, Overwhelmingly favorite QB
hmmmh really hard decision there.....


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Re: winston wins Heisman [Re: elax420]
    #19286553 - 12/16/13 11:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

yeah, because people were talking about FSU all season long too huh?

go and look at the beatings the teams on FSU's schedule took and see if it doesn't make sense. Georgia tech put up more points on syracuse than FSU did. Clemson was maybe, the only team from that division that i would consider not to be entirely abysmal, everyone else on that schedule is a joke. you got what, 1 real bowl eligible team other than FSU?
might as well be conference USA...


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    #19286657 - 12/17/13 12:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

They actually were though. Jameis went off first game of the year, if i remember correctly.

I don’t think you get that what teams you play do not matter. I mean sure no one from the MAC is going to win it, but theoretically they can. The SEC already gets gifted everything else, do they really need the Heisman too?



The Heisman is one of my favorite things about college football don’t be trying to ruin that shit man :crankey:


Auburns MVP



I really hope FSU breaks the SEC trust, but i don’t think they will.

Why couldn’t it have been Bama Stanford dammit!


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Re: winston wins Heisman [Re: elax420]
    #19286809 - 12/17/13 01:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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They actually were though. Jameis went off first game of the year, if i remember correctly.

I don’t think you get that what teams you play do not matter. I mean sure no one from the MAC is going to win it, but theoretically they can. The SEC already gets gifted everything else, do they really need the Heisman too?



The Heisman is one of my favorite things about college football don’t be trying to ruin that shit man :crankey:


Auburns MVP



I really hope FSU breaks the SEC trust, but i don’t think they will.

Why couldn’t it have been Bama Stanford dammit!



   
I think the Mac may have had a chance, but with two big iffs. If the State Attourney indicted Mansiel,  and Jordan Lynch and NIU played well and beat Bowling Green for the Conference. A lot of projections showed Lynch in second last week. Far fetched but not impossible.


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