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 Shroomism
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 Religion binds 
#1927732 - 09/18/03 02:37 AM (20 years, 13 days ago) |
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Break free.
Be formless, like water.
Reinvent yourself everday.
And transcend those pesky beliefs!
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 Re: Religion binds [Re: Shroomism]
#1928081 - 09/18/03 04:45 AM (20 years, 13 days ago) |
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Right on brother!
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Re: Religion binds [Re: Shroomism]
#1928085 - 09/18/03 04:46 AM (20 years, 13 days ago) |
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"Drugs definitely give you an alternate perspective. Your consciousness is like a radio frequency. If you turn the dial, all those radio stations are there simultaneously. You can dial in to hear what stations you want to hear. Consciousness is the same way. Through meditation, you can alter that, you can come upon an alternate reality. Drugs are a shortcut to that. the trick is to really understand the medium you use to get there.
Don Quixote was like that. He was a slave to peyote. He could really get into this alternate consciousness. His guide was peyote, but he was a slave. He couldn't get there except through that medium. There's a lot of people on heroin writing amazing music, but it's a hard way to go, because you sacrifice your life. " - The Great Reverend Maynard
Anything that demands 100% of our faith is only restricting us on our Path..
Peace.
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Let the wisdom flow baby!
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fireworks_god
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Quote:
the universe said:
Let the wisdom flow baby!
Fuck George Bush! 
Just keeping with the flow of wisdom... heh.
Peace.
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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
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MAIA
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We need more humanity than we need religion....
MAIA
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Use, do not abuse; neither abstinence nor excess ever renders man happy.
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Re: Religion binds [Re: MAIA]
#1928242 - 09/18/03 05:49 AM (20 years, 13 days ago) |
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Quote:
MAIA said:
We need more humanity than we need religion....
MAIA
We need more open minds free of attachment than we need religion..
Peace.
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If I should die this very moment
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For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
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Re: Religion binds [Re: Shroomism]
#1928291 - 09/18/03 06:23 AM (20 years, 13 days ago) |
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Quote:
Shroomism said:
Be formless, like water
Bruce lee huh i remeber him sayin that
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purenergy
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Re: Religion binds [Re: Shroomism]
#1928584 - 09/18/03 09:48 AM (20 years, 13 days ago) |
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be flexible so u can change with change. empty yourself! open up! after all, the usefulness of a cup is in its emptiness. I am no longer interested in systems or organizations. Organized institutes tend to produce patternized prisoners of a systematized concept, and the instructor's are often fixed in a routine. Of course, what is worse is that by imposing the members to fit a lifeless preformation, their natural growth is blocked. U cannot hurt that which is formless. The softest thing cannot be snapped and emptiness cannot be confined. Fluidity leads to interchangeability. Self-knowledge leads to awareness. Totality leads to ultimate freedom.
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Re: Religion binds [Re: Shroomism]
#1928625 - 09/18/03 10:11 AM (20 years, 13 days ago) |
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fireworks_god
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What is the purpose of all this above??....
Peace.
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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
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Funguy
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He believes that we should not hold onto our beliefs, which is a belief in itself. It is our beliefs that hold us together and make us what we are.
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Rhizoid
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Re: Religion binds [Re: Funguy]
#1928691 - 09/18/03 10:51 AM (20 years, 13 days ago) |
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I'd say it's love, or some generalization of love, that holds us together. Belief is just a type of habit. A habit can be substituted without any major loss of identity.
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fireworks_god
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Re: Religion binds [Re: Funguy]
#1928701 - 09/18/03 10:55 AM (20 years, 13 days ago) |
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Quote:
Funguy said:
He believes that we should not hold onto our beliefs, which is a belief in itself. It is our beliefs that hold us together and make us what we are.
I was still alive and breathing when I was on my Level Four mushroom trip, and I could not remember who I was before I ate them, barely even remembering that I ate mushrooms, just that something happened..
Peace.
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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
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Re: Religion binds [Re: Rhizoid]
#1928723 - 09/18/03 11:07 AM (20 years, 13 days ago) |
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Quote:
Rhizoid said:
I'd say it's love, or some generalization of love, that holds us together. Belief is just a type of habit. A habit can be substituted without any major loss of identity.
Ah, but isn't the thought of "love" a belief in itself. Everyone has different beliefs on what love is.
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Rhizoid
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Re: Religion binds [Re: Funguy]
#1928742 - 09/18/03 11:20 AM (20 years, 13 days ago) |
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Ah, but isn't the thought of "love" a belief in itself. Everyone has different beliefs on what love is.
Good point. My point is that beliefs can change without affecting the basic holding-togetherness. But you're correct that my identifying of this with the concept of love is also a belief. 
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Ped
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Re: Religion binds [Re: Rhizoid]
#1928779 - 09/18/03 11:34 AM (20 years, 13 days ago) |
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In as much religion can help us shed social conditionings, so can a culturally adopted religion be in itself a form of social conditioning.
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 Re: Religion binds [Re: Shroomism]
#1928915 - 09/18/03 12:30 PM (20 years, 13 days ago) |
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so what are "we" looking for ???
salvation
submission
liberation
solidarity
transcendence
a better rebirth
no rebirth
life eternal
everlasting sleep
hope
certitude
fullness
emptiness
unity
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& maybe some acceptable answers to some of the big questions...
(just a few sample Qs:
where did we come from
who am "i"
what is "everything else"
where are we going
what are we supposed to do in the meanwhile
is this it
why is this happening
when did it start
when will it end
who says so
?????????????)
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remember:
convictions cause convicts ...
if you "know" you've got the final answer, well, you tend to stop asking questions...
if "you" are of "the elect" then "they" are of "the damned"...
there's a "seeker" born every minute ...
he who is not busy being born is busy dying...
every time that wheel turns 'round, bound to cover just a little more ground...
"random chance" is insufficient to explain random chance...
a straight line is almost never the shortest distance between two points...
short words are much slipperier than long ones...
soon enough, you will know...
all sentient beings have buddha-nature...
all that groks is god...
we are all of us alone, and we are all in this together...
before abraham was, i am...
nothing lasts forever...
possibility is more interesting than certainty...
love and jealousy are incompatible emotions...
hate is not the antithesis of love; indifference is...
cosmic love is ruthless...
the universe is a big place, and generally it is too cold or too hot...
being born human is a precious opportunity --- make the most of it...
i love you...
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Re: Religion binds [Re: gnrm23]
#1928926 - 09/18/03 12:36 PM (20 years, 13 days ago) |
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sounds like the writings of the beshroomed 
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Re: Religion binds [Re: purenergy]
#1928965 - 09/18/03 12:49 PM (20 years, 13 days ago) |
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well, not lately, but i do have some cherished memories...
(& no, not all of them catalyzed by power plants & entheogenic allies...)
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Shroomism
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 Re: Religion binds [Re: gnrm23]
#1929431 - 09/18/03 02:56 PM (20 years, 13 days ago) |
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I'm simply trying to say be flexible. Don't limit yourself or define yourself to any one thing.
Beuatiful post, as usual, my friend Gnrm23. I love your style.
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Re: Religion binds [Re: Shroomism]
#1929450 - 09/18/03 02:59 PM (20 years, 13 days ago) |
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"Reinvent yourself everday."
Unfortunately with a job and school this is tightly restricted
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Re: Religion binds [Re: Shroomism]
#1929859 - 09/18/03 04:53 PM (20 years, 13 days ago) |
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Don't hold those beliefs...they're pesky little annoyances 
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Once, men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free.
But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
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Re: Religion binds [Re: gnrm23]
#1929905 - 09/18/03 05:06 PM (20 years, 13 days ago) |
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hehe, cool, i enjoyed ur post 
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fireworks_god
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Quote:
Strumpling said:
"Reinvent yourself everday."
Unfortunately with a job and school this is tightly restricted
You could always wear a different colored tie everyday... heh.
I know what you mean, man, but luckily I worked as a dishwasher with my stepbrother and my best friend, and another good friend, all three cooks, so it was always constant fun. The boss was very cool, too, so we could listen to whatever as long as the customers couldn't hear it.. once some friends were in eating and we went and sat with them, and all you could hear in that section of the restaurant was IN FLAMES, loud as fuck...
But yeah, I imagine our settings were a bit looser than yours, unfortunately.
Peace.
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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
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gnrm23
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alan watts:
give us this day our daily faith
but deliver us from our beliefs
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Re: Religion binds [Re: gnrm23]
#1931676 - 09/19/03 06:14 AM (20 years, 12 days ago) |
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ummm, heh...
in my long rambling post above, i felt free to lift straight out, paraphrase, and invent (?) tidbits from my psilly psyche, mmmkay...
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Re: Religion binds [Re: gnrm23]
#1931678 - 09/19/03 06:16 AM (20 years, 12 days ago) |
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"blest be the ties that bind"
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