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Re: Hitting children [Re: lunarpiscean]
    #19277583 - 12/15/13 03:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I am against hitting children...

but sometimes they can be such brats.

Today I punched my like ~10-12 year old cousin, he was being a little bitch, I told him to quit fucking aroud with my spinning desk chair before someone got hurt like 5 times, sure enough my 5 year old niece got hurt, so I got up and got the chair and was going to put it in another room. He kept trying to grab it off of me, so I told him to let go of it multiple times and kept pulling it away from him and he kept grabbing it and trying to pull it back. So finally I just said fuck this, punched him on his hand he kept grabbing the chair with like 2-3 times real quick, he stopped, punched me back, then ran away.

I'm against hitting kids, but what was I supposed to? He's ridiculous, if I would've tried to grab him up he would've tried to kick me in the balls or some shit like he always does, fuck that.

I probably would've felt bad, but he hit me back, so we're even.


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Re: Hitting children [Re: TrentBoyett]
    #19277593 - 12/15/13 03:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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mjmihalov said:
Point of story: None



The point of the story is:

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he stopped, punched me back, then ran away.




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Re: Hitting children [Re: Set]
    #19277594 - 12/15/13 03:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

just boot 'em in the face! they'll be alright!


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Re: Hitting children [Re: evileye001]
    #19277613 - 12/15/13 03:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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evileye001 said:

bruises and welts? really? just really? :rolleyes:





Yeah.  I wouldn't have mentioned it if it weren't for the fact that it happened to me several times throughout my childhood.


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Re: Hitting children [Re: tito123]
    #19277620 - 12/15/13 03:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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evileye001 said:

bruises and welts? really? just really? :rolleyes:





Yeah.  I wouldn't have mentioned it if it weren't for the fact that it happened to me several times throughout my childhood.



It fuckin sucks that happened to you man.  :hug:

Traumatic physical trauma tends to stick into a kid's memory.  It's fucked.


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Re: Hitting children [Re: Set] * 2
    #19277627 - 12/15/13 03:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If I were to act like many and punish what I dislike with people.. there would not be many people..

It is said that negativity is meaningless.. one does not learn from the punishment untill they see it a punishment no more..

I would rather encourage good behavior, and thus remain indifferent to bad behavior.. just like I do my dog and other people..


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Re: Hitting children [Re: Icyus]
    #19277638 - 12/15/13 03:35 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Hitting children [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19277650 - 12/15/13 03:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I got spanked quite a bit when i was a child. so much that i learned to put on multiple layers of underwear. whatever, i was a prick when i was a kid, and most likely deserved it. no hard feelings.


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Re: Hitting children [Re: ManianFH] * 2
    #19277672 - 12/15/13 04:00 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I got spanked quite a bit when i was a child. so much that i learned to put on multiple layers of underwear. whatever, i was a prick when i was a kid, and most likely deserved it. no hard feelings.



Wow

It really wasn't your fault, and you really didn't deserve it.  Seriously.


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Re: Hitting children [Re: Set]
    #19277788 - 12/15/13 05:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think in the right situation it can be acceptable and necessary, parents these days are to soft on their children. :justdontknow:


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Re: Hitting children [Re: Crystal G] * 1
    #19277879 - 12/15/13 06:12 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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spanking your child when they deserve it makes for a better child in the short and long term. i was spanked as a child and i didnt stomp my feet in the middel of the store when i didnt get what i wanted. i see all these people who tell there kids no no and its time for a time out in the corner and yet there 8 yo tells to fuck off and do what ever they want.





Actually the best (and most pacifist) way of stopping a child from throwing a tantrum is by kneeling down to their level, and hugging them very tightly. Hold your embrace until they stop. Children throw temper tantrums when they feel very alone in the world. They become confused and their voice becomes quieter and quieter until they are just sniffles and hiccups. :love:




:rolleyes:

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Re: Hitting children [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19277881 - 12/15/13 06:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It's okay to hit them with a hadouken or hurricane kick, but a dragon punch is too far.


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Re: Hitting children [Re: EllisDSox]
    #19277933 - 12/15/13 06:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

How many of you posting in this thread actually have kids?  Anyway...when both my boys were young, if they were messing with something they shouldn't have been I would say "No" and pop their hand (not hard)  I just wanted them to know when I said "No" it meant something negative. Now, my five year old pushes the limits and tries to do things in the house as if he were an adult.  I feel like he has a certain right, he is a human being...but he is five and thinks things like trying to learn how to do backflips off the couch is acceptable behavior while his little bro is watching every move he makes.  I'll end up with two children with broke necks. I dunno, it's a fine line you try to walk as a parent.  I mostly use time out and it mostly works.  Except the times it doesn't and I take a fly swatter to his leg.  It usually only takes one whop to get him set straight. 

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Re: Hitting children [Re: Normal Flora] * 3
    #19277957 - 12/15/13 06:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

buncha cry babies.

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Re: Hitting children [Re: Normal Flora]
    #19277958 - 12/15/13 06:53 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If I'm bathing the cat and she's being a scratchy cunt I'll get tight and throw her :lol:

my friend has a dog that humps the shit out of you the only way to stop it is to get extremely aggravated and yell at it
but sometimes i'm just too passive so this guy will come over and deck it in the face


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Re: Hitting children [Re: Moonshoe] * 1
    #19278079 - 12/15/13 07:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I just had a big argument with my Wife's good female friend, and now I feel bad. I really like the girl shes awesome but both she and my wife were physically punished by their parents (spankings, beltings, canings, beaten with reeds of wood etc).

Basically both her and my wife were like, smacked around by their parents, so they think its normal and fine.

My mother has worked for the government her whole life for the healthy child/ Early childhood development divisions her entire life. So she knows all the science which proves physically hitting/corporal punishment on children has only negative effects, on IQ, on emotional development, on physical health, on life chances, on well-being, life expectancy, self esteem etc etc.

Basically according to my mother (who is a professional expert on this) hitting kids= damage, harm, bad.

But a lot of people who were hit as children feel strongly that hitting is right.

They take offense when you say it is wrong.

What do you guys think?





I think you dont know what an expert is, just because someone has a view
similar to your own, it doesnt make them an expert and there's no
conclusive 'science' showing that spankings cause detrimental effects on a
kid such as with their intelligence, my kids have been spanked, they're
both in gifted programs with one being in 3rd grade and doing algebra and
root functions, she's been sent to a local college for classes where she's
learning latin, architecture and greek mythology

now I'm assuming that since you've made this thread and your mother is an
'expert' that you've never been subjected to corporal punishment and yet
you make a statement like this, it speak volumes against the anti-corporal
punishment argument you just tried to make

"My mother has worked for the government her whole life for the healthy child/ Early childhood development divisions her entire life."


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Re: Hitting children [Re: Crystal G]
    #19278112 - 12/15/13 07:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Actually the best (and most pacifist) way of stopping a child from throwing a tantrum is by kneeling down to their level, and hugging them very tightly. Hold your embrace until they stop. Children throw temper tantrums when they feel very alone in the world.






hahahaha... no

children throw tantrums for a multitude of reason including mental illness,
it's good to see the liberal mindset that wants to coddle the criminal, that
wants to lead them to the 'affluenza' defense when they run down a bunch of
innocent people and yes, we arent talking about criminals per se, but the
lack of disciplinary action can often lead to this as we're seeing now


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Re: Hitting children [Re: Moonshoe]
    #19278160 - 12/15/13 08:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hitting kids is unacceptable in any form. If anything, spanking is one of the worst things you can possibly do.

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Re: Hitting children [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #19278168 - 12/15/13 08:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

Crystal G said:
Actually the best (and most pacifist) way of stopping a child from throwing a tantrum is by kneeling down to their level, and hugging them very tightly. Hold your embrace until they stop. Children throw temper tantrums when they feel very alone in the world.






hahahaha... no

children throw tantrums for a multitude of reason including mental illness,
it's good to see the liberal mindset that wants to coddle the criminal, that
wants to lead them to the 'affluenza' defense when they run down a bunch of
innocent people and yes, we arent talking about criminals per se, but the
lack of disciplinary action can often lead to this as we're seeing now




Right, make this about politics, because if it's conservative than it must be right for  everybody, riiiiiiight?

Look, I'm sorry if you were spanked as a kid but it's proven that spanking causes aggression and has other negative psychological effects, some permanent.


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Re: Hitting children [Re: Synthe]
    #19278238 - 12/15/13 08:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Seriously how many people have children here? Unless you have a ridiculously insecure child, they're throwing a tantrum because they want something but can't have it. No Xbox because you did this or no TV because Christmas is close. Try hugging a child. Especially a boy who's crying because they can't get their way. I know me growing up I'd have done something very devilish. Maybe try to steal your wallet and buy the Xbox when you aren't looking.

I was definitely spanked. My parents believed in an equality type of raising. If I harmed others I'd get spanked or lose TV or something, usually both. You can't raise a kid thinking nothing bad will happen when they harm others. They need to know their actions effect others and as a parent u can show it will effect them. Probably why I know what's right and wrong compared to most people in their 20s. Not the shroomery of course.


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