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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: magickspore]
    #19271654 - 12/13/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'm going to take my chances with using it how it comes, they won't replace it if I re-pasteurize it before use and it still gets cotam.


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
    #19272022 - 12/13/13 06:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I have a question on shaking, when i shook my bags i broke the big clumps up and dispersed them throughout the bag, can you break the clumps up too much?


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
    #19272031 - 12/13/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

no


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: cronicr]
    #19272054 - 12/13/13 06:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

just making sure i didn't kill the mycelium.


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
    #19272094 - 12/13/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Lol the mycelium IS ALL THE WHITE YOU SEE. Each kernel with mycelium is considered an inoculation point. U could put 1 kernel or w.e. Into a new spawn and it would grow.
Ps they do that with agar.


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: magickspore]
    #19272824 - 12/13/13 10:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Agreed :whathesaid:
BUT a warning to you!! Myself and others have bought "pre sterilized" various things from the same vendor and it has gotten contamination.
I'm not trying to speak ill of this vendor. I believe all of us has gotten replaced items and are currently awaiting results of these replacements.

Also it could have been a mistake on our parts however little a chance.




YES. Well, I've gotten results. Only ONE of the six bags (3 with bacterial contam, all 3 replaced, only one of the replaced bags ended up fully colonizing). I used the substrate as casing and ended up with a shitload of side pins, which is neither here nor there. No visible contams with that, though. I made my own bulk substrate from straw/hpoo.

There's too much of a pattern here for it to be isolated incidents here and there...I wonder if there's a Minister of Shrooms that handles vendor quality control. :lol:


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #19273617 - 12/14/13 07:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Got me worried now man :confused:

i hope my bags don't stall, out of 4 of them 2 are doing really good, 1 is slow but still progressing, and the last one never did anything, they sent my replacement for it out a day or two ago so its fine now, I had a really good friend buy me a bag also, so thanks to her i have 3 bags colonizing and about to have 2 more bags started.

on the two bags i shook on the 12th i woke up this morning to find that both the two bags are doing AWESOME there definitely more colonized then if i would've left them, i can't explain it it's like on overdrive.


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
    #19273963 - 12/14/13 09:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

its usually a 50/50 shot with kits, either it was prepped correctly and then the newby fucked it up, or it wasnt prepped right and the newbie did everything right and it still contammed.

which is why we discourage kits.  you cant diagnose what went wrong and where so its easy to blame the kit or vice versa


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: twistedty]
    #19274387 - 12/14/13 11:43 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I didn't know pre made bags were considered grow kits, I'm just using the spawn bags until i have a better environment to make my own spawn.
ima take my 50/50 chances for now.


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
    #19275028 - 12/14/13 02:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

How long do you think that pre-pasteurized bag have been sitting since the company prepped it?
I just can't see it being a good thing to ship a bag of moist manure :shrug:


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: spacechildo]
    #19275041 - 12/14/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i'll find out what i think about the bags when ever they are colonized.


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
    #19275157 - 12/14/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I'd be afraid to over-pasteurize the substrate. The company has already pasteurized it, regardless of if they did a good job or not, and repasteurizing it may start to kill off the beneficial microbes. Personally, if it was me, I would trust the company, if it was a vendor. You'll never get as good of a success rate with prepasteurized substrate, but it may get worst if you overpasteurize it.


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19275201 - 12/14/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

just use it bro. everything they do is correct and they pasturize right before shipping. any properly pasturized sub will have at least a two week window


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: Sgt. Pepper]
    #19275213 - 12/14/13 03:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

OP prbly would have  been better off starting with the pf-tek. Jumping into a bulk grow with zero experience, paying out of your nose for overpriced kits, and with no way to have quality control over your spawn and your bulk substrate, seems to be like a recipe for failure

I hope you can pull it off, but doesn't look good, specially the manure thing,at this point you just have to go through and hope for the best

I would advice for the future, to implement a tek from the scratch if you are limited to do grains,start with brf cakes


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: loki44]
    #19275306 - 12/14/13 03:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

They are not kits. In my eyes a "kit" you can fruit in the bag and don't have to add ANYTHING sometimes even spores (which is illegal as fuck but w.e.).

These are simply pre-w.e. You still have to do everything else yourself except pasteurize or sterilize.

Also as stated above most things can stay that way for weeks. So its the same as paying someone else with a PC to prepare your stuff and then give it to you. Of course you have to trust they did everything right on their end.
one more time NOT a kit.


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: magickspore]
    #19275340 - 12/14/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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They are not kits. In my eyes a "kit" you can fruit in the bag and don't have to add ANYTHING sometimes even spores (which is illegal as fuck but w.e.).

These are simply pre-w.e. You still have to do everything else yourself except pasteurize or sterilize.

Also as stated above most things can stay that way for weeks. So its the same as paying someone else with a PC to prepare your stuff and then give it to you. Of course you have to trust they did everything right on their end.
one more time NOT a kit.




spores are only illegal in 3 states in america.  and you still have to trust someone to do work for you.  when you can just mix up water coir and verm and heat up in a pot and know its done right


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: twistedty]
    #19275343 - 12/14/13 04:04 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

and way cheaper


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: TeaSippinHippie]
    #19275441 - 12/14/13 04:23 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It sounds like it's colonizing aggressively. This is good. When they stall, they go really slowly and then just stop, or don't recover after you shake them (if you shake them). The idea behind shaking them around 25% is that the colonized grains will serve as more inoculation points and spread the love faster than just leaving it alone. You don't really have to shake, but people seem to have luck with it. Yours seem to be doing fine. :thumbup:


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #19275549 - 12/14/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I get what people are saying with starting from the pf tek, but i felt if i did it this way and get the hang of it i can start doing everything myself later with some knowledge of what I'm doing, and saying what I'm doing is a recipe for failure is a misstatement, maybe if i jumped into this really fast but i went over everything i was going to do before hand, it's not like I'm buying bags because I'm lazy.


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Re: 1st post, 1st grow. need reassurance. [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #19275561 - 12/14/13 04:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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It sounds like it's colonizing aggressively. This is good. When they stall, they go really slowly and then just stop, or don't recover after you shake them (if you shake them). The idea behind shaking them around 25% is that the colonized grains will serve as more inoculation points and spread the love faster than just leaving it alone. You don't really have to shake, but people seem to have luck with it. Yours seem to be doing fine. :thumbup:




that's a nice way to put, makes it easy to understand.
I'm pretty happy with the two bags that are on overdrive, I'm still hoping the slow bag is just slow and isn't contaminated.


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