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Dirtygoat
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Oddly growing shroomy
#19275009 - 12/14/13 02:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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So, my shrooms ended up growing really slowly. I know it's partly cuz their grow conditions, but I can't do much to help in some occasions.
I also know I should pick them right after the veil breaks, but I chose to let them grow a bit more to see how big they can get. I also wanted to make a spore print of this one in particular, so I am trying to pick him after the caps start to go out wards.. But something weird happened.. Here are some pics:

So this guy's veil broke a few days ago.. And I read that they don't grow much after they mature, but in my case, he grew twice his size since the veil broke.. I want to wait until the cap grows out so I could print him, but instead it's just getting huge. The cap also looks a lot whiter than it should so I'm wondering.. Am I watering too much? Could this be why he is not ceasing to grow but growing much bigger?
I was also wondering if you guys can tell my why they look the way they do. (Small size and giant caps) I could tell you several reasons they don't grow in perfect conditions, but I was wondering if the shrooms can speak for themselves to tell me what they need?
Thanks for any help as always!
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Re: Oddly growing shroomy [Re: Dirtygoat]
#19275045 - 12/14/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you want to make prints and get a clean print you should pick it right before the veil breaks or as its tearing.. why would you let a cap mature to the point where its gills are turning up and think your gonna get a good/clean print?
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Re: Oddly growing shroomy [Re: SamhainJ]
#19275100 - 12/14/13 02:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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SamhainJ said: If you want to make prints and get a clean print you should pick it right before the veil breaks or as its tearing.. why would you let a cap mature to the point where its gills are turning up and think your gonna get a good/clean print?
most caps arn't dropping spores when they first tear the veils. if they are you wont be getting a dark print and the cap will be exposed to the air at that point so they will be as sterile as leaving them a day or two more. from my experience the cleanliness of the print is more determined by your sterile procedure while printing the cap .
using a SAB correctly, fresh foil, gloves and tyvek arms, flame sterilizing utensils properly, and closing sealing the SAB while they are printing will ensure that your prints are as clean as possible.
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Dirtygoat
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Re: Oddly growing shroomy [Re: SamhainJ]
#19275109 - 12/14/13 03:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Because that's how you are supposed to do it..
I've read many teks about spore printing, not one said to pick them as soon as the veils break.. They all said to wait at least a day.
When you want to eat them you pick as soon as the veil breaks, if you're printing, you pick them right before the release spores, which is always at least a day or 2 after veils break
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Re: Oddly growing shroomy [Re: SamhainJ]
#19275119 - 12/14/13 03:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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it's growing because thats it's job, the fruits grow through cellualar expansion, basicly just pumpming there cells full of water where as the mycelium grows through cellular division like you and i. this is another reason we pick before the veil taers, it looks like your getting more but really your not. as for the cap color thats just a result of letting it grow out that much and i see it in the hunting forum all the time in nature.
it's fine to let them go that far for printing but is really not needed , you can get great prints as soon as the veil has separated
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Re: Oddly growing shroomy [Re: cronicr]
#19275142 - 12/14/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said: it's growing because thats it's job, the fruits grow through cellualar expansion, basicly just pumpming there cells full of water where as the mycelium grows through cellular division like you and i. this is another reason we pick before the veil taers, it looks like your getting more but really your not. as for the cap color thats just a result of letting it grow out that much and i see it in the hunting forum all the time in nature.
it's fine to let them go that far for printing but is really not needed , you can get great prints as soon as the veil has separated
Yea i just read an in depth post of that yesterday, i know they are pretty much losing potency, but i thought i should wait longer to print it.
And so i can print this one as is? If so I'm going to pick everything I have today, I hope it works out with such a wavy cap. Is there anything I can do to prevent the spores from sticking to the cap gills? Like can I break the cap apart and still print it in pieces?
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Re: Oddly growing shroomy [Re: Dirtygoat]
#19275146 - 12/14/13 03:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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the spores won't stick to the gills, the fruits will eject them. they don't actually just fall there forced out at a high velocity
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Re: Oddly growing shroomy [Re: cronicr]
#19275198 - 12/14/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Awesome, thanks for your help. In a few days I should have prints, I might post them back up on this page when I do.
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Re: Oddly growing shroomy [Re: Dirtygoat]
#19275205 - 12/14/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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and let me say a job well fucking done bro
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Re: Oddly growing shroomy [Re: cronicr]
#19275216 - 12/14/13 03:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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