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1975
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arms and hands seemed ape-like -- anyone else?
#19274032 - 12/14/13 10:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have only done mushrooms once. It was many years ago, but it was an amazing experience. There was nothing like this forum to discuss that experience way back then. I have a few questions that I hope some of you will be able to answer. I took about ten large mushrooms that were fresh from a cow pasture in Florida. It was a huge dose according to my friends, and it was an amazing, full-blown trip. I notice that doses are specified in terms of grams on this forum. Could anyone provide an estimate of how many grams ten large mushrooms would correspond to? Now for the question in the subject. The first effect that I noticed was that my arms and hands seemed to take on an ape-like appearance. This was in terms of the shape -- they didn't appear furry. One of my friends mentioned that he noticed the same thing. Have any of you noticed this? This is pure speculation, but I wonder if it could be related to some deep-seated memories that are wired into our brains from our ape-like ancestors. The psychedelics began to hit as I went from bright light outdoors into a house. The intensive colors and out-of-body experience were amazing. There were other aspects of the experience that I can't put into words.
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Re: arms and hands seemed ape-like -- anyone else? [Re: 1975]
#19274051 - 12/14/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Human hands and arms are ape-like.
Deep-seated memories are probably from your own life to date. Sure, human brains are ape-like, but that wouldn't explain your thoughtz.
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Re: arms and hands seemed ape-like -- anyone else? [Re: Me_Roy]
#19274066 - 12/14/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Maybe your arms and hands are particularly ape-like? I don't know, I wouldn't get hung up on things like that. If you get stuck on tiny thoughts like that, you'll start talking to people about it, and they'll think you're weird. Lol Be careful with certain realizations from trips.... Some of them aren't "real", you don't wanna get stuck in a loop. I realize this was many years ago, so it won't matter to you, really. This is more of a note-to-self, for me.
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Re: arms and hands seemed ape-like -- anyone else? [Re: Me_Roy]
#19274078 - 12/14/13 10:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes. I was sweating along with clammy hands and I itched my armpit like an ape but it was total instinct. I never itch my armpits like an ape or monkey but I did and I noticed it after I did it. Lol
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1975
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Re: arms and hands seemed ape-like -- anyone else? [Re: Me_Roy]
#19274102 - 12/14/13 10:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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No, they appeared very ape-like and not at all like human arms and hands usually appear. I don't believe there is anything in my experience that could explain such a perception, and I know of at least one other person who experienced it. It's amazing how much is wired into our brains at birth. It seems plausible that there are remnants of bits and pieces of this wiring that go way back to our ancestors and don't normally manifest themselves.
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Re: arms and hands seemed ape-like -- anyone else? [Re: 1975]
#19274110 - 12/14/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Everytime I eat em and see a band I can't get over the guitarists arms and fingers, no matter who is playing, it always looks like popeye forearms and 6 or 7 fingers on each hand. Freaked me the fuck out the first time but I'm used to it now............
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Re: arms and hands seemed ape-like -- anyone else? [Re: SynKyd]
#19275088 - 12/14/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I get the ape arm effect too 
Also a toad face...
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Re: arms and hands seemed ape-like -- anyone else? [Re: KingKnowledge]
#19277497 - 12/15/13 02:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I totally go Neanderthol/cave man in my self image when tripping.
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Re: arms and hands seemed ape-like -- anyone else? [Re: Rose]
#19277509 - 12/15/13 02:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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OMG. Totally. I always have body distortion it makes me see myself as one of the "other"animals.
That is just a sign that your having a comprehensive head trip.
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Me_Roy
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Re: arms and hands seemed ape-like -- anyone else? [Re: 1975]
#19278516 - 12/15/13 10:09 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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1975 said: No, they appeared very ape-like and not at all like human arms and hands usually appear. I don't believe there is anything in my experience that could explain such a perception, and I know of at least one other person who experienced it. It's amazing how much is wired into our brains at birth. It seems plausible that there are remnants of bits and pieces of this wiring that go way back to our ancestors and don't normally manifest themselves.
It's not just plausible; it's certain.
But that doesn't explain why one's arms would begin to look like a monkey's.
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Re: arms and hands seemed ape-like -- anyone else? [Re: Me_Roy]
#19278563 - 12/15/13 10:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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1975 said: No, they appeared very ape-like and not at all like human arms and hands usually appear. I don't believe there is anything in my experience that could explain such a perception, and I know of at least one other person who experienced it. It's amazing how much is wired into our brains at birth. It seems plausible that there are remnants of bits and pieces of this wiring that go way back to our ancestors and don't normally manifest themselves.
It's not just plausible; it's certain.
But that doesn't explain why one's arms would begin to look like a monkey's.
Ive had so many trips that make me see myself as a monkey, and also ones where other people become monkeys, that now it is part of my automatic dual-perception: monkey/human versions of every situation.
I am pretty sure psychedelics just break down the automatic barrier humans have created sectioning themself off from "monkeys"
We really are so much more monkeylike than any one of us can ever perceive.
I dont even think its going back to something old, I think its just unmasking your current self to your self, and realizing how archaic it actually was the whole time.
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Re: arms and hands seemed ape-like -- anyone else? [Re: Soul-Inversion]
#19278996 - 12/15/13 11:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I feel distortion very time but I never see it. Maybe because I always see myself as two guys back on the human evolution chain.
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Re: arms and hands seemed ape-like -- anyone else? [Re: chucklehead]
#19280340 - 12/15/13 05:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Damn didnt realize so many of us have had that expernce
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#19280374 - 12/15/13 05:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: arms and hands seemed ape-like -- anyone else? [Re: Harrishroom]
#19280562 - 12/15/13 06:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've felt like various animals, though I can't remember any of them now, not sure if an ape was even one though oddly enough. I do remember being a single celled organism at one point, though they may have been while meditating and not on psychedelics, I can't remember for sure now. I'll often feel like a caveman too, even in my actions and dialogue, though that often happens when sober too, I think it's just a personality thing there.
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Re: arms and hands seemed ape-like -- anyone else? [Re: krypto2000]
#19281381 - 12/15/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have felt the same thing. The strangest was the day after i tripped on mescaline, i went to a supermarket and just thought "wow, look at all these monkeys buying food....so weird"
but yea i do feel very ape like, just like a normal animal
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Re: arms and hands seemed ape-like -- anyone else? [Re: BobbyMcgee]
#19283500 - 12/16/13 11:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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For me it is not just a little facet of the trip... it basically is the trip. One of the most intense body morphing trips was on thousands of seeds of morning glory plus DXM and oxy, so its not just mushrooms. Pretty much my earlier trips were all just seeking understanding until this repeating explanation came to me. Now, it is the basis for a lot of the head trips and visuals. Understanding what people came from, and just looking at a human body basically makes me have flashing visions of all animals on earth, and see them all kind of morphing into each other, all their analogous organs just barely changed between each other, and then it look down, see my strange feet. My feet are not normal shaped, I have a 1+ inch tall arch, about 5" wide, and my toes are extremely angled, like the tip of my middle toe sticks 2 inches further than my pinky toe. I dont know if my feet are this way because im a bit tall, or because I refused to wear shoes my whole life, so they were never crushed. When I trip out I remember how to use my feet as hands, because they are, and use them for all kinds of things multitasking while holding things in my hands. It makes me far far more productive to use my feet.
Every part of my body I focus on just will keep distorting, like my feet I would see the bones lengthen and the toes all come together and become horse legs, my face will look particularly cave man like, which is pretty common among people. I also feel my tail bone alot when tripping, well every bone and every part of my body but normally I dont notice my tail bone at all... It feels just like it sounds. Like there could be a tail but like I'm some mutant that evolved not to have one.
But these are just the beginning... after these little hints, when im on a decent dose (3-5g cyans or like 10g cubes) ill see all the organisms at the edge of this shifting mass of network of bones, with a network of flesh on it, and a network of neurons on it, and they are all connected through umbilical cords. I zoom in to one part I see fetuses of every species of animals attached on cords to older and older animals above them, leading to the final states of all dead organisms in history. And I fly down the umbilical connection seeing older and older animals, then they meet up at common ancestors, and all these keep devolving into prime ancestors of each branch of life, and this is in a geometric representation shaped like a spherical network of mycelium... pretty uncanny huh. That fungi are the closest relatives of animals and actually part of the same kingdom in most biologists eyes, and to see these branching network of fungi that in real life sever them self from each others umbilical cords, and by doing that they create their ego.
Mushroom mycelia do the same thing severing umbilical cords, but they dont do it the same as animals. Everybody knows one strain of mycelium can be divided into an infinite number of new ones with slight mutations and can create any number of new fruit bodies. It just took me a long time to see animals the exact same way.
Every animal who is unaware of the physical connection between all animals has an ego and believes itself to be the only animal connected physically to itself. That is only because they are not on mushrooms and have the incapability to observe many time frames at once, and thus they focus only on the time frame they are currently physically placed at. So then my mission becomes clear: to get as many animals as possible to see time in many frames simultaneously and come to similar visions and enlightenment's as I have.
What gets really intense though is when you zoom down to the very center of the animal/fungi sphere of umbilical cords and see the original bacteria and stuff that led to fungi, because then you wonder where plants came from. Well, science says they may not even be descended from the same organisms as fungi are. That is pretty trippy. Either one of us might be aliens, otherwise life probably evolved twice or more on earth. That would not surprise me but the result of these trips is always coming to the conclusion that some outside force spawned the center of this network I described, and then, my mind searches. Until it always finds the mycelial planet in space. And then I see it, the same exact geometric sequence except without bones and faces and umbilical cords, replaces instead by cords of metallic mycelia miles thick and spawning primordial towers of pulsating flesh... These flexible appendages grow out into space until the tip of them enlarges into a bulb and explodes. The content shoot out into space with so much velocity that they penetrate both the planet of their origin and the surrounding asteroids a few Astronomical Units away. It is only implied that these projectiles contain genetic material, or are some kind of probes. Waves of these "fruit bodies" come in flushes in an apparently random sequence of intensity and duration. Each wave has slightly different characteristics, because they have since evolved from the spores dropped on the planet by the previous flush of fruit. Or, it is possible that the evolution is a response to data collected from the probes described earlier and sent back to the mother planet by the vibrations in human skulls, like that buzz that comes on intense shroom and dmt trips. Sometimes the rest of the trip is just me trying to send as much data from earth through my skull up to the mother planet. I assume that whatever their intention is, i owe it to them to obey the nature they created and try to come up with some trippy shit just in case the planet is intelligent and enjoys an entertainment system of listening to the language formed in trippers heads.
Some of them by calculated chance never hit anything for billions of AU, or infinite AU if you wish to say so. I always end the trip thinking one or more of these space-spores must have landed on earth a billion years ago and spawned all life. To me, it sounds highly probable that this "space" we are in is actually the same "space" where a mycelial planet like this COULD exist, and COULD send a vacuum sealed container of genetic material to earth.
Sorry, kind of hijacked the thread I just thought this vision was relevant to people seeing them self as apes, because for me it is the same vision.
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Re: arms and hands seemed ape-like -- anyone else? [Re: Soul-Inversion]
#19283724 - 12/16/13 12:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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