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Crystal G



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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: elax420]
#19273141 - 12/14/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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elax420 said: I guess the guys that got poly sci degrees to pad their grades and make it easier to go to Law school then got into politics would be pretty good to go to. The other option? Oh Multinational corporations, funny how that one works.......
Oh ya Black history is totally as useful as Accounting or Finance, which i guess is lib arts now in whatever fucking world you live in 
Guess what? I work in finance, and they hired me with a poli sci degree! My boss also has his degree in political economy. :What a useless degree that was, LMFAO!!!
Again, even most finance firms don't require finance or business degrees because guess what, finance and business are easy as shit to learn and train to anybody. I studied for two weeks and passed my licensing exam, with no education at all whatsoever in finance or business. George Dubya has his MBA, what does that tell you?
You degree will help you, however the fact that you studied business will make no difference at all whatsoever.
Of course black history is useful, it teaches history from a completely different perspective than what is taught in high school. Basically, what you are saying is that history is useless, which is an utter fail.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: elax420]
#19273151 - 12/14/13 12:37 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Its sad that schools are turning into factories to make us into more profitable beings. We waste so much time and energy trying to impress eachother, it is just as important to understand eachother. It might not make you a better earner, but it will make you a better person.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: moonrockmushy]
#19273153 - 12/14/13 12:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said: Its sad that schools are turning into factories to make us into more profitable beings. We waste so much time and energy trying to impress eachother, it is just as important to understand eachother. It might not make you a better earner, but it will make you a better person.
I'm just saying this guy is going to get a huge reality check if he believes his degree will be any more fruitful in finding a job. For starters, it won't, especially not for just a bachelors. For every BA in business that is applying, there will be dozens of MBA's also applying. Having a bachelors degree in business is about as useful as a bachelors degree in psychology or neuroscience. It's not particularly fruitful until you get a doctorate's.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Crystal G]
#19273168 - 12/14/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ya it is easy shit to learn, and its a really good school. why the fuck do you think i did it?

What you want me to give you some kind of validation? Congratulations you got a shitty entry level office job completely outside of your expertise/field of study 
You keep putting words in my mouth but i guess this is done. Im sure as hell not getting a BA You're the one bragging about degrees, i would have never even brought it up so stop with the pissing contest.
Just to let you know, I get what you were doing. Classic Diversion, i like it...... ___
Oh and besides the point no one gets a doctorate in business unless your goal is to teach. You’re right everybody and their dog has an MBA, that doesn’t make them not valuable though. It forces your employer to pay you more, and opens more doors. Obviously not all degrees are created equal, that wasn’t the point i was trying to make at all. As a generality Business is going to be more useful than Lib Arts.
You know you took some straight bullshit to get a poly sci degree. You don’t take a lot of bullshit in Business, Business bullshit sure, but no fucking medieval african american feminist studies.
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Crystal G



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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: elax420]
#19273191 - 12/14/13 01:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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elax420 said: What you want me to give you some kind of validation? Congratulations you got a shitty entry level office job completely outside of your expertise/field of study 
My job isn't an office job. I actually get to set my own hours, since I'm considered a subcontractor with the company. For example, I never work on Fridays because I don't have to and I don't want to. I also made $18 grand in the month of November, which was the most I made in one month to date. Hardly "entry level," although I suppose compared to a hedge fund manager I am at the bottom. But my income is very sporadic and always fluctuates between very high and very low, so it's still pretty mediocre I guess.
What, when I said I went into finance, did you think I became a bank teller? 
Anybody can learn how to do accounting/finance/business. Hence why some of these companies don't even require degrees, such as the tax accountants at Jackson Hewitt. The work is easy, and the hardest math you will probably ever do is level I algebra. Business is essentially learning, understanding, and memorizing basic concepts and methods, with easy math.
Anybody can quickly learn and understand the trade of business, but not everybody can understand the writings of Kant or Hegel.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: elax420]
#19273200 - 12/14/13 01:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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elax420 said: Obviously not all degrees are created equal, that wasn’t the point i was trying to make at all. As a generality Business is going to be more useful than Lib Arts.
You know you took some straight bullshit to get a poly sci degree. You don’t take a lot of bullshit in Business, Business bullshit sure, but no fucking medieval african american feminist studies.
I disagree with you about cultural studies (e.g. African American, Latino, Asian-American, gender studies), simply because you learn about history from a completely different perspective than what you are thought. I actually find these studies to be some of the most important studies, if only for that reason alone.
And actually depending on the area of study, I find it to be much more difficult and useful in some ways than business or finance degrees:
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Anybody can quickly learn and understand the trade of business, but not everybody can understand the writings of Kant or Hegel.
Philosophy, being one of them. All philosophy majors can learn business. Not all business majors can learn to read philosophy. The two take a completely different level of skill to do, with philosophy being the more difficult subject.
Additionally, these majors develop your critical thinking and analytical and fact-checking skills. If you want to be a news reporter or political commentator, I would actually recommend poli sci as a foundation for your degree.
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You know you took some straight bullshit to get a poly sci degree. You don’t take a lot of bullshit in Business, Business bullshit sure, but no fucking medieval african american feminist studies.
I was not required to take any of those "bullshit" classes, I took them because they were the most interesting classes I have ever taken in my life.
Lastly, I don't think that anybody who has never taken any liberal arts classes should be speaking as if they have any authority about the subject. Frankly, you probably don't even know the type of material that is studied in the classrooms.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Crystal G]
#19273215 - 12/14/13 01:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Come on... just whip out your dicks. Let's see whose is bigger - or are you afraid to lose to a girl Elax?
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Crystal G]
#19273218 - 12/14/13 01:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well see i agree with you there. Anyone can learn ANYTHING. Im not trying to say Business is inherently harder or any shit like that, because its all subjective. Shit thats hard to me is easy to someone else, and vice versa. I can’t say for sure because I’m not even done with the program yet but i think the idea behind business school is to get you to think in their model and encourage those traits they want to represent their school. School prestige plays a big role in getting jobs. Get an MBA from Wharton and you can work anywhere.
Im just saying its going to be a much harder sale to hired at fortune 500 when you are fighting 100s of people for a position thats starting salary is 100k when you have a poly sci. If i were you i would try and go back and get a decent MBA assuming you have the grades. You will make a lot more money, and an MBA is a cakewalk. Getting in is the hardest part.
You are completely discounting business, which makes sense because I’m doing the same thing with you Ultimately I’m about maximizing profit and utility, to me it seems like you are(were) at university for hedonistic pleasures. Just different ways of thinking i won’t understand yours i can’t expect you to understand mine I can’t see the value in Feminist Studies, you can’t see the value in Operations Management
You actually talk about Machiavelli and Adam Smith quite a bit though. Ive taken way too many fucking history classes, I’m actually kind of bummed out i can’t take anymore without going van wilder.
BTW i didn’t mean to offend you it just comes across that way through the internet.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: koods]
#19273220 - 12/14/13 01:36 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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koods said: Come on... just whip out your dicks. Let's see whose is bigger - or are you afraid to lose to a girl Elax?
Dude i have a very average sized dick 
Im sitting on about 6.5 inches of pure unadulterated man meat
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: elax420]
#19273229 - 12/14/13 01:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The crazy thing is, if Crystal said "I got that beat" right now, I wouldn't be shocked.
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Crystal G



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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: elax420]
#19273235 - 12/14/13 01:44 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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elax420 said: Im just saying its going to be a much harder sale to hired at fortune 500 when you are fighting 100s of people for a position thats starting salary is 100k when you have a poly sci. If i were you i would try and go back and get a decent MBA assuming you have the grades. You will make a lot more money, and an MBA is a cakewalk. Getting in is the hardest part.
No, I wouldn't. When you work as a financial advisor or consultant, your entire pay is based off commissions. That's why my pay is always so up and down. Getting an MBA would simply put me into more debt. Your commissions don't go any higher simply because you achieved a graduate degree.
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You are completely discounting business, which makes sense because I’m doing the same thing with you Ultimately I’m about maximizing profit and utility, to me it seems like you are(were) at university for hedonistic pleasures. Just different ways of thinking i won’t understand yours i can’t expect you to understand mine I can’t see the value in Feminist Studies, you can’t see the value in Operations Management
I don't believe having a business degree is any different from having any other degree. Any time I've ever attended a job fair for business/marketing/finance industry, less than 5-10% of the booths even required a related degree.
I was colleagues with a business management major that graduated with me. He even worked abroad in China for a year. Couldn't find a job after graduation for 6 months, ended up going into the exact same field, in the exact same position as me.
Consider the fact that 70% of college graduates end up working in a field that is completely unrelated to your major. Therefore, it's not really the major that counts, but the fact that you have a degree.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Crystal G]
#19273244 - 12/14/13 01:55 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Seems like a business degree doesn't teach you very much about people- you know, the customers.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: koods]
#19273253 - 12/14/13 02:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ah shit you work on commission? I would hate that personally.
Ya well you would be wrong in that assumption. Certain business schools are farms for certain mega corporations. Example: Goldman hires a shit ton of Accountants from my school for some reason.
You really should have your first job set up before you graduate business school, sounds like your buddy messed up. My school makes you do a internship to graduate. You have to do shit work for no pay but you make the connections that end up paying off in the long haul. I can’t tell you the exact number off the top of my head but my school brags about their job placement and starting salary right out of school, and my school has the economics included so that fucks up the numbers royally 
I don’t believe there is such thing as an unemployed accountant, and an accountant that went to a top ranked school of accountancy is going to be infinitely more valuable then the guy they have to teach from the ground up.
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koods said: Seems like a business degree doesn't teach you very much about people- you know, the customers.
Depends what you go into. Marketing is all about knowing the consumer inside and out. If you end up in sales you are going to have to be great with people. I like the tech and theory heavy classes so I’m not really the one to talk to.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Patlal]
#19273515 - 12/14/13 05:39 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said:
Now compare this to european and american way of doing thing. We plant corn, wheat etc. We've been doing in for centuries. That kind of farming requires a rush in the spring and a rush at harvest time. After that, there's nothing more to do, plus the winter is long. We picture peasants back in the day working 100 hours a week just to survive. Well, the truth is, they only worked on average 25 hours a week. Back in the day, there are hundreds of town that literally shut down during winter. The population hibernated. They slept more, ate less. Human hibernation. No work, nothing to do for the entire winter.
blatantly false. try speaking with one of the few who remain that sharecropped.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: unam sanctum]
#19273551 - 12/14/13 06:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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asians are better at math because they spend more time in school 
the more time you spend doing something the better you get at it.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: NWlight]
#19273615 - 12/14/13 07:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is premise of this thread even valid? Mathematics is a pretty small field compared to the other sciences.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: koods]
#19273798 - 12/14/13 08:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Note to self: Eat more rice
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: sof4r0ckeRs1984]
#19273864 - 12/14/13 09:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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BTW...
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Crystal G]
#19273870 - 12/14/13 09:27 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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doesnt everyone consider indians and pakistanis to be asians? after all, india and pakistan are in asia...
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Crystal G]
#19273945 - 12/14/13 09:53 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Crystal G said: BTW...

Please also ask him if he considers his views representative for Europe. Because your initial statement was that in Europe, 'Asians' refers to the groups you mentioned.
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