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zappaisgod
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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: elax420]
#19285830 - 12/16/13 08:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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elax420 said: Nice work with google finding out about unemployment.
Kid, I live this shit. I just used google to find a specific cite for something I already knew.Quote:
Dude there is no perfect measure, but the stock market is a pretty damn good measure of how well the economy is performing, you can’t argue that.
Yes I can and have for decades. Quote:
"No, they don't. They gauge it on whether they have a job" You made a classical conservative argument in a conservative thread 
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Were not really even arguing anything at this point so i guess this is over.
So you concede that the economy sucks right now.
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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: zappaisgod]
#19285841 - 12/16/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Why would you have faith in the younger generation? The members of my generation that have been teaching them for the last several decades are failures and cowards hiding behind a false notion of tenure. The younger generation seems to be completely wrapped up in what it wants to do and doesn't much grasp the idea that there are things you have to do to survive.
Every previous generation always says that about the new generations. People were saying that in the '30s and '40s about you, that you were good for nothing druggies who listened to Satan's music. Take a look at this quote that was said about young adults in the 1970's:
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"They are more interested in climbing Mt Everest than climbing the corporate ladder. They've never punched a time clock. They have no idea what it's like to actually be in an office at nine o'clock, with people handing them work."
I knew this was coming but I have stats to back me up. See above post in re Failure to Launch. The economy was worse in 1979 (year I graduated) than it is now and we didn't move back home to mommy in droves.
"The economy was worse in 1979 than it is now"
Not a chance in hell, 79 was a party compared to today.
Uhhh, no it wasn't. It was worse. Double digit inflation and 3.2% growth followed by negative growth in 1980
The key factor is "real" wages, which were substantially higher in 1979 than today.
The nice thing about the 70's was the wage growth, growing wages made servicing the debt (home mortgage) a very nice increase in the standard of living.
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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: elax420]
#19285854 - 12/16/13 08:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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elax420 said: Nice work with google finding out about unemployment. Dude there is no perfect measure, but the stock market is a pretty damn good measure of how well the economy is performing, you can’t argue that.
"No, they don't. They gauge it on whether they have a job" You made a classical conservative argument in a conservative thread 
Were not really even arguing anything at this point so i guess this is over.
"the stock market is a pretty damn good measure of how well the economy is performing, you can't argue that."
I don't think you have any understanding of what makes a stock market move higher, especially the current one in the US.
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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: qman]
#19285892 - 12/16/13 08:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The key factor is "real" wages, which were substantially higher in 1979 than today.
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The nice thing about the 70's was the wage growth, growing wages made servicing the debt (home mortgage) a very nice increase in the standard of living.
ORLY? By the way you might want to note that the year I mentioned was 1979. A generic appeal to the seventies is ludicrous since they were fucking over by then.
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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: zappaisgod]
#19285953 - 12/16/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The key factor is "real" wages, which were substantially higher in 1979 than today.
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The nice thing about the 70's was the wage growth, growing wages made servicing the debt (home mortgage) a very nice increase in the standard of living.
ORLY? By the way you might want to note that the year I mentioned was 1979. A generic appeal to the seventies is ludicrous since they were fucking over by then.
"No they weren't (real wages higher in 79 than today)"
Yet, you recently acknowledged that "real wages" have been stagnant for decades. Seems like it's very difficult to make an argument that real wages are higher today (vs 1979) yet real wages have been "stagnant for decades".
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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
#19285992 - 12/16/13 09:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's easier to explain why social conservatives exist.
The social dynamics of the real world are complex and messy, but believing that a group of people (who are easily identified by their physical or cultural traits) are generally good or bad is a simplistic and psychologically satisfying way of looking at this world. It's probably wrong, but it's easier to think this way.
This may be why social conservatives (read bible-thumpers) and racists have lower IQ's. Look it up.
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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: sukhavati12]
#19286018 - 12/16/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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pro-life but don't want to feed you and want the death penalty believe in god but they don't like gay people or druggies they want to save the world but they don't spend any money doing it
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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: qman]
#19286207 - 12/16/13 10:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Zappa: what you work for the fucking bureau of labor or some shit now?
If you would argue that no wonder why you are a carpenter. What edit? No its pretty fucking sweet right now. Im a lot younger than you, posses a lot less capital than you, and yet i’m pretty fucking certain by the way you are posting that I’ve made more on stocks than you have 
Your fault you didn’t take advantage of the recession...... but ya I agree with you that stocks are overvalued at the current moment. It will drop off in the first quarter of next year IMO.
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elax420 said: Nice work with google finding out about unemployment. Dude there is no perfect measure, but the stock market is a pretty damn good measure of how well the economy is performing, you can’t argue that.
"No, they don't. They gauge it on whether they have a job" You made a classical conservative argument in a conservative thread 
Were not really even arguing anything at this point so i guess this is over.
"the stock market is a pretty damn good measure of how well the economy is performing, you can't argue that."
I don't think you have any understanding of what makes a stock market move higher, especially the current one in the US.
Its the fucking illuminati brahhh
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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: elax420]
#19286215 - 12/16/13 10:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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teh fookin socks have gon to shit
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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: FunkyBuddha]
#19320778 - 12/24/13 11:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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FunkyBuddha said: why do conservatives exist?
Lack of empathy.
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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: Learyfan]
#19321575 - 12/24/13 02:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Conservatives are very generous with their own money. Liberals just demand they they give it to them.
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Re: Why do conservatives exist? [Re: Learyfan]
#19321686 - 12/24/13 03:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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FunkyBuddha said: why do conservatives exist?
Lack of empathy.
So did you miss the multitude of studies that show conservatives are more charitable then liberals or do you just ignore them because they don't suit your world view?
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Do you know what the proper term for unemployment insurance checks that go beyond the original 26 weeks is? Extremely generous Welfare.
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