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Re: Grains [Re: HypnotoadCroaked]
    #19290029 - 12/17/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Whippy said:
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JMcDoogle said:
Simmering, no effect. None.. Nope.

Its essential. Period!



I have yet to simmer/boil one cup of bird seed, and have had no trouble.  There are other cultivators who also do not simmer.  I have not encountered a situation where I was concerned about water content etc.  I even have used jars that were allowed to sit a month prior to inoculation....


...But where I do not simmer, I jar up slightly moist on the outside....We may just be skinning a cat a different way.




Me neither Whippy. Not that there is anything wrong with simmering. I weigh my wbs for water content. I know what I start with and what I should end up with. 20 - 24 hrs is usually all it takes. Rinse and rinse some more, and load jars - strained and still wet with surface water, and pc. I let my jars stabilize 24 hrs after the pc, shaking a bunch of times, and every one of the grains comes out dry on the outsides. I think a lot of people are just impatient, and want to get right to it, (and I can't blame them). There's lots of absorbing still going on long after the pc, and imo you should let the jars equalize themselves before use. As long as my wbs weighs right, is thoroughly rinsed, and the jars allowed to equalize, I get boring, consistent results every time since going this route.

I have found most water is absorbed in the first 4-6 hrs, then the rate slows down, seemingly exponentially, as time goes on till it just does no more. I also found its damned impossible to over hydrate wbs with just a soak. Brands are different. Grains are different. Absorb times are different. Millet and wheat absorb fast, milo not so fast, and popcorn you have to cook to get the weight. I shoot for 45% - 50% wc but can never seem get to 50, usually end up around 45+. I cant get rye berries where I am easily, so I have no notes on rye. I can't see why it would be any different.

Peace,
FT


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