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Eclipse3130
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Penis Envys
#19258570 - 12/11/13 02:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am going to be starting my first grow soon, but have read a lot about mutant Penis Envys on the first flush. Does this happen with Penis Envy Uncut?
I have also read that they don't yield that well and take longer.
I don't really care about the extra 2 weeks or so that they may take, but I care about the mutant first flush, anyone with any info on the Uncut species?
Or should I just grow a different Cubensis species like Golden Teachers or B+?
I like the PE species and want to grow because they just look intriguing.. would be fun to watch them grow..
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elasticaltiger
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From what I've heard, PE isn't the BEST choice for a first grow since all the other varieties are basically the same. Are you going to grow on cakes or on a bulk substrate? I've also heard they don't fruit well on cakes (but there are threads here where it's succeeded)
Ultimately do what you want to do but penis envy seems to grow best on bulk substrates in a monotub. PussyFart has a seriously awesome PE grow going on right now that you should check out.
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Edited by PussyFart (01/21/16 03:56 AM)
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Eclipse3130
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elasticaltiger said: From what I've heard, PE isn't the BEST choice for a first grow since all the other varieties are basically the same. Are you going to grow on cakes or on a bulk substrate? I've also heard they don't fruit well on cakes (but there are threads here where it's succeeded)
Ultimately do what you want to do but penis envy seems to grow best on bulk substrates in a monotub. Notahacker420 has a seriously awesome PE grow going on right now that you should check out.
Awesome. Thanks for the info, I guess I will go with the Golden Teachers they look like they yield well and are gorgeous too. And i'll check out his log!
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Edited by Eclipse3130 (12/11/13 02:26 AM)
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elasticaltiger
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Golden Teachers were my first grow and I had a great experience with them. To tell the truth though, if I put my golden teachers up next to most of my other grows I wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
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invitro


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I've heard that -some- genetic in PE are such that you get zero fruits, of course some give prolifically as well. I don't think 'dud' genetics are part of the normal cube experience. Someone correct me if I'm wrong on that last statement.
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Aero
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Re: Penis Envys [Re: invitro]
#19258993 - 12/11/13 07:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pe is just fine, dont worry about what other people say, it grows just like any other cube..
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PussyFart
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Re: Penis Envys [Re: Aero]
#19259073 - 12/11/13 08:11 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Aero said: Pe is just fine, dont worry about what other people say, it grows just like any other cube..
Not really true...
PE tends to do shitty on cakes....and it takes a lot longer on average for pinning to start.
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clueless
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Oh and pe seems to produce less to no mutants in a first flush when spawned and cased. And it seems to have a higher alkaloid content. And it's harder to get spores from. And more penis shaped from the odd caps. But other than that it grows just like any other cube.
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Aero
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PussyFart said:
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Aero said: Pe is just fine, dont worry about what other people say, it grows just like any other cube..
Not really true...
PE tends to do shitty on cakes....and it takes a lot longer on average for pinning to start.
it does shitty on cakes 
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Edited by PussyFart (01/21/16 03:56 AM)
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Eclipse3130
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Re: Penis Envys [Re: Aero]
#19273446 - 12/14/13 04:30 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Aero said:
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PussyFart said:
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Aero said: Pe is just fine, dont worry about what other people say, it grows just like any other cube..
Not really true...
PE tends to do shitty on cakes....and it takes a lot longer on average for pinning to start.
it does shitty on cakes 

Beautiful! I went with Treasure Coast, was that your first flush of PE?
Edited by PussyFart (01/21/16 03:57 AM)
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Sulfurshelfsean
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Re: Penis Envys [Re: Aero]
#19273465 - 12/14/13 04:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Aero said:
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PussyFart said:
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Aero said: Pe is just fine, dont worry about what other people say, it grows just like any other cube..
Not really true...
PE tends to do shitty on cakes....and it takes a lot longer on average for pinning to start.
it does shitty on cakes 

We serve penis and we've got cake....And we're all out of cake...
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Edited by PussyFart (01/21/16 03:57 AM)
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Aero
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Eclipse3130 said:
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Aero said:
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PussyFart said:
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Aero said: Pe is just fine, dont worry about what other people say, it grows just like any other cube..
Not really true...
PE tends to do shitty on cakes....and it takes a lot longer on average for pinning to start.
it does shitty on cakes 

Beautiful! I went with Treasure Coast, was that your first flush of PE?
it wasnt mine, but people seem to mystify the PE..
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Edited by PussyFart (01/21/16 03:58 AM)
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PussyFart
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Re: Penis Envys [Re: Aero]
#19273984 - 12/14/13 10:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You cannot just go off one picture....I can find you literally hundreds of threads where PE cakes never, or hardly pinned at all.
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Aero
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yea right.. this is ape
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indocult
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Re: Penis Envys [Re: Aero]
#19275949 - 12/14/13 06:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pe.is envy uncut is different. it taked fucking forever to colonize, so since it is your first time I wouldn't do them. I say that because you probably do not have a pressure cooker, so you are unable to sterilize. If your substrate is not properly sterilized, you will not find much success in a strain that colonizes slow
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Re: Penis Envys [Re: indocult]
#19275961 - 12/14/13 06:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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i've never heard of any pe being a slow colonizer should have the same abilitys as any other cube
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Re: Penis Envys [Re: cronicr]
#19275975 - 12/14/13 06:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well im sorry you have never heard of it but that is my experience.
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SgtPepperNo9
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You already seem to have made up your mind but I thought I would add to the convo.
Could be pure luck but the 2 PE cakes I have are going pretty well. They definitely took longer to pin though and the first flush is looking pretty weird.
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BigGreenMat
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My APE colonized 100% in under 2 weeks from an MS syringe on Brown Rice. Way faster than the cakes I did.
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Pastywhyte
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My APE and PEU colonized super fast, just took forever to fruit. Just like a cube is a cube, a dick is a dick
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