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Could I have burnt myself out a little?
    #19273121 - 12/14/13 12:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So, back in the day, when I was young and experimenting with whatever I deemed to be safe enough to toy with, I bought Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds, and I would take a shit ton. My most pleasent trips were between 12-14 seeds in solitude, but with next to no visuals, open or close-eyed. SO, I subconsciously decided to "up my dosage".

Threshold 1 - 4
Light 3 - 6
Common 5 - 8
Strong 7 - 12
Heavy 12 +

To the point of somewhat serious debilitating body load, even. In the 20-25 seed range, of the correct seeds with friends, and they'd all trip HEAVILY. I always allowed for tolerance breaks. After the first or second time I did it (months apart), I couldn't trip. I would hardly have expanded thoughts, and aside from some potentially blurry vision, puking, and disturbing body load, next to nothing. (Usually in the company of others.. huh..)

At first, I figured I must just be extremely tolerant of psychedelics, but then, I took 8 hits of acid a couple months later, and discovered I should have taken 7 less.

I guess I just still don't really understand my limitations at this time in my life, but I believe that my problem was... I was trying to force myself to let go, without respect for the substance, which is entirely counter productive... and potentially dangerous. The last time I took seeds, I was with someone I didn't even know, and I felt like the trip sitter the whole time... keeping him under control, dealing with my own nausea, helping him deal with his puke session.
It wasn't until I had left him on his own for an hour or so, and finally relaxed enough to purge, that I finally tripped... 3 hours after consuming the seeds.

I haven't had shrooms or mescaline yet, just LSA, LSD, PCP, Salvia, DXM, and an assortment of non-psychedelics.
I just wonder if anyone else has had problems getting the trip started? Was it the drug's fault, or your fault? Anyone ever experience a "sober trip?"
Was it due to an improper mindset?
Expectations?
Not enough/too much of the substance?

Anyone have speculations as to my issue? I'd love a highly visual, pleasant, happy trip some day soon.


Edited by 999 (12/14/13 12:24 AM)


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Re: Could I have burnt myself out a little? [Re: 999]
    #19273148 - 12/14/13 12:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Why not grow mushrooms?


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Re: Could I have burnt myself out a little? [Re: LiquidGlass]
    #19273170 - 12/14/13 12:52 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I suggest trying it alone, completely alone.

I spent my last acid together with my only real friend, because I wanted to share it with him (and I don't regret my decision), but I couldn't trip any good, compared to 1/4 of that dose before this was less intense. All the time I was more into mindset where I would care if he has a good trip. I was able to let myself go only for a hour or so. As I see you mentioning "company of others", I could suggest you preparing for solo trip. Find some great music, prepare everything before, and then do it. Sorry if this is not helpful.


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Re: Could I have burnt myself out a little? [Re: VeryStrangeMan]
    #19273177 - 12/14/13 12:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds like you could maybe use a little more respect for the substances? I could be reading that totally wrong though


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Re: Could I have burnt myself out a little? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #19273185 - 12/14/13 01:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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LiquidGlass said:
Why not grow mushrooms?




I can't, given my current situation :P Know what I mean? One day.

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VeryStrangeMan said:
I suggest trying it alone, completely alone.

I spent my last acid together with my only real friend, because I wanted to share it with him (and I don't regret my decision), but I couldn't trip any good, compared to 1/4 of that dose before this was less intense. All the time I was more into mindset where I would care if he has a good trip. I was able to let myself go only for a hour or so. As I see you mentioning "company of others", I could suggest you preparing for solo trip. Find some great music, prepare everything before, and then do it. Sorry if this is not helpful.




Naw, man, I'm pickin up what you're layin' down. The next time I trip, I wanted to do it with my best friend, and him alone... I guess I'm just hoping I'll still trip bawlls, and get a lot out of the experience.
Maybe I just need to work on the mindset for a month or so before... if anyone knows a little bit about spiritual cleansing/healing, I'd love to read up on it.
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rbalzer said:
Sounds like you could maybe use a little more respect for the substances? I could be reading that totally wrong though



No, that's right. I certainly have a much greater respect for both myself, as well as anything that has the potential to effect my mind so profoundly, than I used to. I'm no longer chasing anything down, you know? But, there's always that worry I won't have a positive, significant trip next time... I'm not going to go the heroic dose route next time, but I think I'll try to open my mind. Gauge it out, lol


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Re: Could I have burnt myself out a little? [Re: 999]
    #19273189 - 12/14/13 01:11 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

nothing wrong with epic doses when you know the potency, and for me at least, space them out


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