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Diamonds: Lab-Created vs Mined: Engagement Ring?
    #19273025 - 12/13/13 11:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Ladies, how you feel about jewelry made with lab-created diamonds, vs mined diamonds? How about specifically for an engagement ring? Pros and cons seem to break down like this:

LAB-CREATED:
+ Cheaper
+ No slave labor needed for mining.
- Created in a few days in a sterile lab

MINED
+ Created in time over millions of years
+ Traditional
- More Expensive
- Slave labor used for mining
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What type of diamond would you prefer on an engagement ring?
You may choose only one


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Edited by ch1ck3n.s0up (12/13/13 11:57 PM)


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Re: Diamonds: Lab-Created vs Mined: Engagement Ring? [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up]
    #19273216 - 12/14/13 01:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't find diamonds to be of any use at all except to be used as an investment to make money off of years down the road.

When I get married I would like a moissanite NSCD diamond, anything above 4 carats. Nobody in public will know the difference, so why should anybody spend $100,000 on the real thing, when you can get a similar copycat for $2K?


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Re: Diamonds: Lab-Created vs Mined: Engagement Ring? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19276483 - 12/14/13 08:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Lab-created diamonds are better because they lessen environmental damages and reduce human suffering. Altogether though, diamonds are a waste of your money. If she cares that much about whether or not the diamond is made in a lab, she probably isnt the girl you want to give a diamond to anyway.


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Re: Diamonds: Lab-Created vs Mined: Engagement Ring? [Re: empty space]
    #19276567 - 12/14/13 08:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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empty space said:
Altogether though, diamonds are a waste of your money.




Diamonds are actually a good investment because they increase in value over time, similar to gold. It's not like fur coats or leather jackets, which degrade in value over time once it's purchased and worn. Well, unless you're somebody famous who wore them. :hehehe:


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Re: Diamonds: Lab-Created vs Mined: Engagement Ring? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19276610 - 12/14/13 09:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Perhaps, but OP is not asking about buying diamonds for the purposes of storing them and reselling them.

Also, I think there are ways to invest your money that would provide a quicker and greater profit than buying diamonds and holding onto them to resell.


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Re: Diamonds: Lab-Created vs Mined: Engagement Ring? [Re: empty space]
    #19276680 - 12/14/13 09:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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empty space said:
Perhaps, but OP is not asking about buying diamonds for the purposes of storing them and reselling them.

Also, I think there are ways to invest your money that would provide a quicker and greater profit than buying diamonds and holding onto them to resell.




Not really. In the '90s 2 carats cost less than $5K. Today it's over $20K. That's a pretty huge profit. Even bonds and mutual funds rarely ever go above 4.5-5% a year.


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Re: Diamonds: Lab-Created vs Mined: Engagement Ring? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19276693 - 12/14/13 09:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

With $5000 I could start an indoor setup that would earn me far more than $20K in far less time. And if I had spent $5000 on Bitcoins when they were first created..


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Re: Diamonds: Lab-Created vs Mined: Engagement Ring? [Re: empty space]
    #19276699 - 12/14/13 09:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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empty space said:
With $5000 I could start an indoor setup that would earn me far more than $20K in far less time.




I consider doing something like that more of a business, since you have to put labor and effort into it. It's not like a standard investment, where you literally just put your money in it and do nothing but watch your money grow.


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Re: Diamonds: Lab-Created vs Mined: Engagement Ring? [Re: Crystal G]
    #19276717 - 12/14/13 09:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Fair enough :smile: I still don't think I would ever buy a diamond though.

I guess I kind of luck out a little bit though because when I was like 6, I found a huge diamond in a parking lot. It could definitely be broken down into several different pieces or placed as a single giant stone. I honestly don't know if I would ever make a diamond ring to give to a girl.. I haven't had a great track record in the faithful partners department.. :frown:


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Re: Diamonds: Lab-Created vs Mined: Engagement Ring? [Re: empty space]
    #19276733 - 12/14/13 09:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Mined diamonds are better.

I want to know that people died and suffered to get me the diamond I have. Nothing shows more love than a stone gained from the sweat and blood of slave laborers.


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Re: Diamonds: Lab-Created vs Mined: Engagement Ring? [Re: empty space]
    #19276775 - 12/14/13 10:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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empty space said:
Fair enough :smile: I still don't think I would ever buy a diamond though.

I guess I kind of luck out a little bit though because when I was like 6, I found a huge diamond in a parking lot. It could definitely be broken down into several different pieces or placed as a single giant stone. I honestly don't know if I would ever make a diamond ring to give to a girl.. I haven't had a great track record in the faithful partners department.. :frown:




I have this theory that men started giving diamonds to brides so that in case they ever passed away unexpectedly, the brides would be able to sell something off to help the bills with for a while.

I personally am not a huge jewelry fan myself. Knowing me, I would either lose it or get it stolen from me. And that would blow big time if it was like an authentic 6 carat mined diamond or something.

So I'd rather have a large 4 to 6 carat, round-cut moissanite NSCD diamond, which if you buy it online costs less than $2K. $3K if you put it on a platinum band (which I need because I have a metal allergy, part of the reason I never wear jewelry). It's not like most people can even tell the difference, so what do I care if it's real or fake? Something like this I find to be reasonable... I just cannot picture wearing something that costs more than what I'm driving: http://www.joyjewelers.com/modules/catalog/customizer/step1.php?products_id=52003&gclid=CLP5yIfDrrsCFcQ9QgodDXoAhQ

And apparently really good moissanite even fools 9 out of 10 diamond experts. The color and the cut and the clarity on these simulate authentic diamonds close to perfectly (see sample video below):



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Re: Diamonds: Lab-Created vs Mined: Engagement Ring? [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #19278005 - 12/15/13 07:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Anonymous said:
And apparently really good moissanite even fools 9 out of 10 diamond experts. The color and the cut and the clarity on these simulate authentic diamonds close to perfectly (see sample video below):
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you are repeating the marketing hype about these stones, a diamond grader and
people that have been in the industry for years wont be fooled, a few
amateurs may be but a few simple 'tests' will show the difference pretty
quickly, a pen light shown through the stone will show more 'fire' than with
a diamond, on a brilliant cut stone, placing the top facet onto news print
will also show it to be artificial. if you know how to use a loupe then it's
as easy as looking for milky inclusions. these stones dont even fool pawnshop
owners anymore


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Re: Diamonds: Lab-Created vs Mined: Engagement Ring? [Re: Patlal]
    #19281721 - 12/15/13 11:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Just to be clear: I am asking about a diamond as an _engagement_ring_, NOT an investment.

Example:  Two women: Suzie and Sandy, were both recently engaged. They find out that the stones in the beautiful rings that they were respectively given are lab-created diamonds.

- Suzie is annoyed... this is not a "real" diamond (although it actually is a real diamond).
- Sandy is happy. No sweat from slaves or blood from mining accidents on her stone.

How would you feel?


Edited by ch1ck3n.s0up (12/15/13 11:13 PM)


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Re: Diamonds: Lab-Created vs Mined: Engagement Ring? [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up]
    #19282110 - 12/16/13 01:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i dont give a shit how it was made. my gf probably wouldnt either. shes awesome like that


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    #19295206 - 12/18/13 09:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Diamonds are not really a long term investment. The main diamond buyers buy up the diamonds and store them in vaults on releasing limited supplies on a somewhat not rare thing.

I'd go for a fake one, save up for a real one and give the real on an anniversary.


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