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Remember Indians?
#19272472 - 12/13/13 09:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Symbols and art of the two tribes I come from.



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Re: Remember Indians? [Re: Soluminia]
#19272516 - 12/13/13 09:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Remember Indians? [Re: Soluminia] 1
#19272518 - 12/13/13 09:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Natives were fucking badass. It's a shame the way their culture was systematically destroyed for the pursuit of capitalism.... Oh and Christianity too.
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any relation to people in Oneida, NY? there is a big casino/resort there. people in syracuse go there alllllll the time.
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Re: Remember Indians? [Re: Soluminia]
#19272537 - 12/13/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The turtle story is cool.
My dad just bought a used truck from a Native lady, and it's got turtle stickers in the back window. After I told him what they meant, he decided to leave them alone
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Re: Remember Indians? [Re: Soluminia]
#19272540 - 12/13/13 09:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Navajo Tacos

Peace pipes

Cahokia Mounds then

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Re: Remember Indians? [Re: stimpson]
#19272544 - 12/13/13 09:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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stimpson said: any relation to people in Oneida, NY? there is a big casino/resort there. people in syracuse go there alllllll the time.
Not really. They're technically a separate tribe but still same language and beliefs they're just the ones who stayed behind when we were forced to relocate.
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i wanna hear the Turtle story. 



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how many natives did we slaughter again?
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how horny are native americans?
r we talkn, like, sex once a year native americans? and only-date-during-christmas-and-break-up-right-before-valentines-day native americans?
or sure-i-love-u-now-hurry-up-and-let's-have-sex native americans?
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I'm sure somebody that's actually of Native heritage could explain it better than I could, but, in a nutshell, it basically goes:
The beaver put some mud on the back of the turtle, and boom! Earth.
(sorry, I just smoked the first joint in a long while )
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akira_akuma said: they created civilizations thousands of years ahead of us being here and lived in relative peace with everyone
Source?
Wasn't there a lot of dickhead Native American groups? Like the blackfoots or some shit.
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Khii Khwaay said: I'm sure somebody that's actually of Native heritage could explain it better than I could, but, in a nutshell, it basically goes:
The beaver put some mud on the back of the turtle, and boom! Earth.
(sorry, I just smoked the first joint in a long while )
the Earth
but it's a great ball of mud at that, though.
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Re: Remember Indians? [Re: Everlong]
#19272587 - 12/13/13 09:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Everlong said:
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akira_akuma said: they created civilizations thousands of years ahead of us being here and lived in relative peace with everyone
Source?
Wasn't there a lot of dickhead Native American groups? Like the blackfoots or some shit.
Relative peace.
as in, not every was "kosher" but when were the Americans ever kosher with them either? SOMETIMES. exactly.
so my source is... what i already posted, friendo.
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akira_akuma said:
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Everlong said:
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akira_akuma said: they created civilizations thousands of years ahead of us being here and lived in relative peace with everyone
Source?
Wasn't there a lot of dickhead Native American groups? Like the blackfoots or some shit.
Relative peace.
as in, not every was "kosher" but when were the Americans ever kosher with them either? SOMETIMES. exactly.
so my source is... what i already posted, friendo.
There are many examples of early settlers being fair with the native population, it was once we had a united government that they really got screwed.
Also, I think a lot of the peace among the different native nations was primarily the result of pillage and conquest. For example, when my area was settled it was believed to be controlled by the Lenape. But in reality, the Lenape were defeated by the Iroquois, and they permitted them to use the land. I was reading a historical source and it said the Iroquois viewed the men of the Lenape as women. When the Lenape sold land to settlers, the Iroquois flipped shit and killed a bunch of white people.
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Re: Remember Indians? [Re: Everlong]
#19272724 - 12/13/13 10:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Akira, you didn't read Black Robe in high school?
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akira_akuma
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nope, never. sounds good though. THE BLACK ROBE OOM
yeah, Everschtick, they both were in relative peace with eachother, like i said... until when they weren't, and kinda well... the settlers were the first people to dabble is the American law that was used to try and make nads out of everyone... Indians stuck with pretty much old ways for a shitload of time, and they still fought wars in vicinity to each other. tribes were never really "unified".
the old versus the new, is the way it was and it was quite corruption of a race of people.
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akira_akuma said: they created civilizations thousands of years ahead of us being here and lived in relative peace with everyone
hahahahaha.... nope
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tahp93 said: And what are they now? Drunks
I'm not a drunk. I don't even like alcohol's effects.
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Re: Remember Indians? [Re: healing]
#19273807 - 12/14/13 09:02 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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They had some cool shit, but their negotiating skills were questionable at best. They should be thanking us for bringing them civilization. The White Man's Burden can be a heavy load to bear, but it's our duty I suppose.
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Yeah. That whole peaceful part.... Lol
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Re: Remember Indians? [Re: healing]
#19274376 - 12/14/13 11:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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tahp93 said: And what are they now? Drunks
I'm not a drunk. I don't even like alcohol's effects.
yeah most all native americans that i know, dont enjoy alcohols effects. It really doesn't settle well with them.
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Re: Remember Indians? [Re: Legend]
#19274397 - 12/14/13 11:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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We name cars after them. Isn't that enough?
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Re: Remember Indians? [Re: Legend]
#19274440 - 12/14/13 11:54 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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tahp93 said: And what are they now? Drunks
I'm not a drunk. I don't even like alcohol's effects.
yeah most all native americans that i know, dont enjoy alcohols effects. It really doesn't settle well with them.
I don't enjoy drinking. Neither does my mom. But the full bloods, firewater. They love their alcohol. Mu uncle albert is 6 foot four inches 300 plus and is the most stereotypical "indian". There are stereotypes for a reason.
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Re: Remember Indians? [Re: Mescalean] 2
#19274537 - 12/14/13 12:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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"Native" Americans certainly have a fascinating history and sets of culture but they were anything but "relatively" peaceful. Some were, certainly, but a large portion of their history falls into the category of "murder the shit out of everyone else around us".
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Re: Remember Indians? [Re: Brubbles]
#19274565 - 12/14/13 12:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Brubbles said: "Native" Americans certainly have a fascinating history and sets of culture but they were anything but "relatively" peaceful. Some were, certainly, but a large portion of their history falls into the category of "murder the shit out of everyone else around us".
Yup just like everyone else in that respect. Blackfoots were some murderous people. The only reason they probably didn't kill themselves off was the fact that they couldn't move very far, very fast. Then the Mexicans/Spanish went and gave them horses, and that's when the raids and murder went off the charts. Although settlers started flooding in from everywhere at that point for a piece of the pie and they had guns....
People love making excuses for why their culture fell to shit.
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akira_akuma said: they created civilizations thousands of years ahead of us being here and lived in relative peace with everyone
hahahahaha.... nope
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Re: Remember Indians? [Re: healing]
#19275590 - 12/14/13 04:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Native Americans had a cool way of viewing nature (generally). Regardless, of their violent ways.
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Re: Remember Indians? [Re: d0urd3n]
#19275601 - 12/14/13 05:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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you guys seem to forget that their culture was established before there was any such rules, that you can ascribe to.
and was essentially invaded by people outside of their sphere of knowing... they "had to adjust" as it were, but after living thousands of years just "Doing what you do" and living in relative peace with life... isn't it obvious that they should be a little taken back in reserving their "way of living" in small segregated areas with bad places for habitation? i mean they practically existed before Europe was even "a thing".
so i take it they absolutely lived in "relative peace" before and after the arrival of "Americans".
if the Americans din't (or still don't...) like it 'all that much' then then it's really on them; after all we came to this place LAST.
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i like cow poo said: Native Americans had a cool way of viewing nature (generally). Regardless, of their violent ways.

yeah, through violence you garner respect. in our culture it's the same thing... only if it doesn't develop into a commercial area or anything, it vexes people.
i don't advocate violence, either... but to be built for violence is what the Indians grew up with that for thousands of years.
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akira_akuma said: they created civilizations thousands of years ahead of us being here and lived in relative peace with everyone
hahahahaha.... nope
PS: maybe "civilization" is a little strong of a word to use.
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Re: Remember Indians? [Re: healing]
#19275907 - 12/14/13 06:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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tahp93 said: And what are they now? Drunks
I'm not a drunk. I don't even like alcohol's effects.
Im not a drunk im a mushroom hunter.By the way were still here. dancing healing we are still here.
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