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Gnome_Grown
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C'mon cakes; Go!
#19272132 - 12/13/13 07:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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These cakes have been stored at %95 humidity and 78 degrees. All cubes; mainly GTs.
 They have been in this SGFC for 7 days now. The only thing I can see is literally what is pictured. There are 20 cakes in a 55L tub: are there too many to close?
Fanned five times a day for 25 seconds. Misted three times.

Where/how far away should I be misting these cakes? It is a direct light mist to each cake; riaaight?
Also- slight discoloration on the top sides of several cakes - is it Trech starting? Automatic trash - right?
 How long is the fruiting process? I keep feeling like these are dead. Someone give me some reassurance! - thanks.
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the first few days of knots-pins-is painstaking sometimes but once it's a pin they take right off, i think the color on the top is just bruising due to gravity drawing moisture to the bottom of your cakes, as for misting just stand a foot or so back and mist the fuck outta everything, no need to do it one cake at a time
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Gnome_Grown
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Re: C'mon cakes; Go! [Re: cronicr]
#19272186 - 12/13/13 07:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I feel relieved after reading that; I will search up on bruising out of own curiosity!
So, when you say painstakingly slow; what does that entale? Because my a*s has been laid off and have been staring at this SGFC for 7 days now, just thinking, "...and Go!" But they always trick me; I mean shit; I have 39 more jars scheduled for soak on Monday - then 25 more on the following Monday.
C'mon little guys - pin it up!
Up to two weeks is the first set of harvest, right? These cakes were slow growthers - 3.5 weeks for full colonization.
My other 64 jars made it in 10 days or so. :P
-thanks loads I can sleep easy now; hopefully.
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bodhisatta 
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I think they just need some time, the blue is bruising you're ok on that one.
this hobby will teach you patience
also fan after you mist. You don't need to fan without the misting. Fanning is not FAE.
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Fruiting Chamber A SGFC has 1/4" holes spaces 2 inches apart in a grid patten on all six sides. 4-6 inches of moist perlite. No attachments made to it with any extra things like humidifiers. Optimally the SGFC should be in the middle of a room. No fans should be run in the room with the SGFC, but a cracked window is OK. A humidifier in your house can help to raise the ambient RH but don't put it near your SGFC put it in the other corner of the room if you do decide to run a humidifier at all. The SGFC IMO should have at least 6-12 inches of room from any wall on all 6 sides. This includes finding some sort of raisers to elevate the SGFC off of the surface it's on. This is what can happen if you make your SGFC the right way. Here's what will happen if you do it the wrong way. You'll likely rage quit.
Misting and Fanning. This is a source of much grief and 100's of posts a week here. Misting and fanning is not at all complicated as it needs to be. In general you'll mist your cakes until they glisten(yes they can even with the verm on them) and then fan right after the mist. You can mist your cakes directly and you should. When you notice the cake is no longer glistening you can mist it again and then fan. This occurs on average of 3-5 times a day. Don't worry about sleeping or being gone 12 hours. Just do it when you're around and don't forget about it is all. Fanning is not FAE it's only purpose is to relive the high RH air so that the cakes can get a kickstart on evaporation.
FAE This is a phenomenon (Fresh air exchange) in a properly built SGFC this is constantly happening. The perlite is naturally cooler than the surrounding air this moves molecules closer to eachother as the lose kinetic energy. This creates low pressure which pulls air up through the bottom holes. As the air moves through the perlite it picks up humidity and keeps the chamber at or above 90%RH. This occurs naturally without the fanning and is why we like to have no fans in the room and is also why fanning after misting is not a replacement for FAE.
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Gnome_Grown
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Good read; Thank you.
My box was in a room; in the pig pin with a fan osculating on it.
Now it is just in a corner.
I'll move it out so all sides are spaced; great read! Thank you! I understand how it works and why! Woo-hoo!
Did the time with a fan injure them or just slow em down?
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bodhisatta 
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Gnome_Grown said: Good read; Thank you.
My box was in a room; in the pig pin with a fan osculating on it.
Now it is just in a corner.
I'll move it out so all sides are spaced; great read! Thank you! I understand how it works and why! Woo-hoo!
Did the time with a fan injure them or just slow em down?
it's an excerpt from the first thread In my signature.
fan probably dried them out some, nothing time and doing it right(it's fixed now) wont fix.
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Enigma1
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Gnome_Grown said: These cakes have been stored at %95 humidity and 78 degrees. All cubes; mainly GTs.
 They have been in this SGFC for 7 days now. The only thing I can see is literally what is pictured. There are 20 cakes in a 55L tub: are there too many to close?
Fanned five times a day for 25 seconds. Misted three times.

Where/how far away should I be misting these cakes? It is a direct light mist to each cake; riaaight?
Also- slight discoloration on the top sides of several cakes - is it Trech starting? Automatic trash - right?
 How long is the fruiting process? I keep feeling like these are dead. Someone give me some reassurance! - thanks.
Well maybe your kids can grow up and play together lol
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SamhainJ
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Re: C'mon cakes; Go! [Re: Enigma1]
#19272483 - 12/13/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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At least you have visible pins.. my first grow in the last 6 years it took 23 days to pin my f+ cakes.. well anyway i cased the rest and got large flushes that pinned a day after putting into fruiting.. got 4 pesa casings going strong now.. never gonna look back at fruiting cakes again!
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Re: C'mon cakes; Go! [Re: SamhainJ]
#19272584 - 12/13/13 09:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just thought I would post since I'm new to this too.
As everyone will tell you patience is key. I had some cakes I was worried about too. 2 weeks+ without any sign of anything but now they have pins and are growing more every day. I don't know if any jars you had contaminated but after you see a few with obvious mold in all diff colors (green, black, brown, whatever) it seems to get easier to differentiate between it and bruising.
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BigGreenMat
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As other have said that looks like normal bluing. I have a little of it on the edges of my cakes right now which have been chilling and growing in my SGFC for 2 weeks now. It is MADDENING!!! One of my cakes has pretty massive growth since being in the SGFC even and all of them have some pretty wicked hyphal knotting with no pins in sight yet.
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