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happygolucky
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: TheWiz]
#19262899 - 12/11/13 09:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I notice people on here saying to use tap water for everything. Is there anything wrong with using filtered rain water? I mean, you guys do know what kind of shit is in tap water don't you?
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happygolucky said: I notice people on here saying to use tap water for everything. Is there anything wrong with using filtered rain water? I mean, you guys do know what kind of shit is in tap water don't you?
It's because tap water is filled with the perfect nutrients needed for the mushroom growth. other water sources don't and end up giving you malnourished cakes.
Now this doesn't mean you can't sterilize/purify it by boiling and cooling it first, because yeah there is some gross stuff in there.
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happygolucky said: I notice people on here saying to use tap water for everything. Is there anything wrong with using filtered rain water? I mean, you guys do know what kind of shit is in tap water don't you?
Yep. And I've seen stuff in tap water that would make your blood curdle. But mushrooms grow on horse shit, and as another member above mentioned, tap water has a lot of minerals that are easily available.
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: Psilicon]
#19263102 - 12/11/13 09:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mushrooms love fluoride, chlorine, arsenic, pharmaceuticals, and the plethora of other known toxins in tap water?
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happygolucky said: Mushrooms love fluoride, chlorine, arsenic, pharmaceuticals, and the plethora of other known toxins in tap water?
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: PussyFart]
#19263196 - 12/11/13 10:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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For the record distilled water is only really good for spore syringes and filling up a humidifier.
distilled water is so lacking in dissolved ions that it will rob them from your substrates. It's actually quite like a solvent, it's going to leech out nutrients from anything you use it on.
h2o2 only damages healthy mycelium
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: bodhisatta]
#19263388 - 12/11/13 10:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'll give them what I drink. Rain water filtered through a berkey.
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: bodhisatta]
#19263410 - 12/11/13 10:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just had that issue with some of my cakes, I actually posted a thread under "weird pins is this normal" I just let them grow and they got monstrous, 62 grams wet weight of a single half pint wide mouth brf cake, on the next flush there was a mixture of those weird open caps and regular closed, so I would just let them keep growing. like above post stated, I waited till the caps started to have a brown stripe ( I assuming they were about to drop spores ) and then picked them. what vendor? I wonder if they were from same place. mine were from a shroomery sponsor, they were huatla type. I'm assuming just mutant genetics
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I was and am misting with Poland spring water, so don't think tap water was an issue they grew bigger than this pic, I didn't retake a picture when they were finished, these were the pics I posted when I was asking, is this normal? I wouldn't pick them, just let them grow till they are about to drop spores like earlier post stated
Edited by ghostshadow422 (12/11/13 11:10 PM)
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I was and am misting with Poland spring water, so don't think tap water was an issue they grew bigger than this pic, I didn't retake a picture when they were finished, these were the pics I posted when I was asking, is this normal? I wouldn't pick them, just let them grow till they are about to drop spores like earlier post stated
Look at the mycelium bruising. The mycelium is distressed. How often are you misting and are you misting till the cakes glisten? If so, are you providing adequate time between mistings for evaporation?
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: 2bittoker]
#19266674 - 12/12/13 04:29 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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was misting fanning 3-4 times a day, once when I wake up, go to sleep and a couple times in between. I was worried bout the weird shrooms so I was picking them up a lot.
Edited by ghostshadow422 (12/12/13 04:46 PM)
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: Vis0nairee]
#19266994 - 12/12/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Harvested two trays. 215 grams fresh.
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: Vis0nairee]
#19267008 - 12/12/13 05:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: Vis0nairee]
#19267225 - 12/12/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm giing to munch 70 grams fresh tonight
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: Vis0nairee]
#19267307 - 12/12/13 07:00 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: cronicr]
#19267509 - 12/12/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Vis0nairee said: I'm giing to munch 70 grams fresh tonight 

That's fuckin awesome.
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: Vis0nairee]
#19271812 - 12/13/13 05:42 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Very similar looking things going on with this grow.
Edited by CricketMan (07/18/17 07:18 PM)
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: Vis0nairee]
#19273820 - 12/14/13 09:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Vis0nairee said: I'm giing to munch 70 grams fresh tonight 
Did they work ?!
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: Camtaro420]
#19275670 - 12/14/13 05:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's because tap water is filled with the perfect nutrients needed for the mushroom growth. other water sources don't and end up giving you malnourished cakes.
Now this doesn't mean you can't sterilize/purify it by boiling and cooling it first, because yeah there is some gross stuff in there.
I don't think you can purify water that way. Only the chemicals in a gaseous state, and organic material can be removed/killed that way. Fluoride and other salts cannot be removed that way. I know that i used to leave tap water sit for 24 hours uncovered to remove the chlorine/chloride (it would evaporate off as gas) before i watered my clones. It didn't much matter to them, because the water was going in soil, and had all kinds of buffers to contend with.
I thought that the nourishment for cakes was based on the substrate you used, and not the water. If the water was responsible for the quality of nutrients, why wouldn't we use fertilizer in the water, instead of hpoo(or some other form of food) in the substrate. It would almost be like growing hydroponic mushrooms where the sub didn't matter, as long as you gave them what they needed through water. Do mushrooms absorb nutrients through the cap and stems, or does the mycelium do all the work?
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: CricketMan]
#19276226 - 12/14/13 07:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hell yeah! I ended up eating 60 grams fresh to be cautious. Glad i ate that much, was trippin pretty hard!
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