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Re: Bartending [Re: broken]
    #19272155 - 12/13/13 07:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I say its a scam. Talk to a real bartender. Go up to them and asked how THEY got started. I just look at it from this point of view. If you can do the same thing without paying GOD KNOWS HOW MUCH MONEY to these people for "teaching" you then why actually give them money? And besides 90% is a great number but i dont know anyone who talks bad about their business ya dig?

I say save your money. Go buy a pint from some bartender and just ask. It wont hurt. And just don't ask one ask many.

Im sure you're excited but seriously coming from someone who used to this, You're better off saving your bucks for a nice bottle opener and some nonslip shoes. and maybe some herb.


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Re: Bartending [Re: BlindEye] * 1
    #19272174 - 12/13/13 07:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

That's a fucking brilliant idea BlindEye. I might actually go walk to this pub near me and grab a beer and ask the bloke who serves me for advice.

With the weather here in Missouri, it's bound to be as empty as the restaurant I was just at.

:thisisgonnabegood:

I'll report back what he says :sun:


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Re: Bartending [Re: st1llnox]
    #19272200 - 12/13/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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st1llnox said:
That's a fucking brilliant idea BlindEye. I might actually go walk to this pub near me and grab a beer and ask the bloke who serves me for advice.

With the weather here in Missouri, it's bound to be as empty as the restaurant I was just at.

:thisisgonnabegood:

I'll report back what he says :sun:




And they'll have nothing else better to do and be a chatty cathy. Luckily I bartended in college in the town i went to college ( College is so rad when you start at 21 instead of right out of HS lol) and so there was never a dull moment.

Talk and ask questions. you'll learn A LOT! Talk is cheap. very cheap...


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Re: Bartending [Re: BlindEye]
    #19272226 - 12/13/13 07:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Dude I bet college was awesome for you :lolsy: Rock on man :vibin:

Time go get dressed I guess lol... the bar's a mile away, right next to my DXM dispensary (the grocery store :lol:), so this walk should be interesting. I had forgotten that I'm not drinking along with another Shroomerite until Xmas but we both already had a slip up (including today) so this kind of has to be today anyway.

Wouldn't it be sweet if this led to landing a job so close to my house!??


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Re: Bartending [Re: Zombi3]
    #19272337 - 12/13/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Zombi3 said:
A ducks walks into a bar and asks, “Got any grapes?”

The bartender, confused, tells the ducks that no, his bar doesn’t serve grapes. The duck thanks him and leaves.duck

The next day, the duck returns and says, “Got any grapes?”

Again, the bartender tells him that, no, the bar does not serve grapes, has never served grapes, and, furthermore, will never serve grapes. The duck, a little ruffled, thanks him and leaves.

The next day, the duck returns, but before he can say anything, the bartender begins to yell: ”Listen, duck! This is a bar! We do not serve grapes! If you ever ask for grapes again, I will nail your stupid duck beak to the bar!”

The duck is silent for a moment, and then asks, ”Got any nails?”


Confused, the bartender says no.

”Good!” says the duck. ”Got any grapes?”



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Re: Bartending [Re: r00tuuu123]
    #19272456 - 12/13/13 09:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'm enjoying a Winter Old Fashioned and some delicious hummus right now!

One of the bartenders chatted with me and gave me tons of good info.

Bartending school, to hear a bartender tell it, is a joke and a way to get laughed at behind your back. Working your way up seems to be the way to go, staring as a waiter or barback. She recommended applying as a waiter but letting them know your ambitions and that you're willing to work hard and do anything they need but want to end up behind the bar.

Just talked to the other bartender and he got in by working his way up as well.


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Re: Bartending [Re: st1llnox]
    #19272464 - 12/13/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

My gf was a bartender for several years, and I'm friends with a few bartenders.  They all say school is a waste of time.  People usually order simple drinks, and more complicated drinks can be found online.


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Re: Bartending [Re: fapjack]
    #19272475 - 12/13/13 09:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks for confirming this Fapjack! :sun:


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Re: Bartending [Re: st1llnox]
    #19272480 - 12/13/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Apply to a bunch of bars, you will learn on the job.


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Re: Bartending [Re: fapjack]
    #19272504 - 12/13/13 09:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I have an oppurtunity to like my brother a few years ago,live with my Grandfather and bartend at his pub/hotel. This is in a tiny town in Scandinavia though and would require learning Finnish. But I could do it at 18. I just think going in Winter would be a shock coming from Los Angeles.  :beer:

So many drunks in Finland, its crazy.


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Re: Bartending [Re: st1llnox]
    #19272534 - 12/13/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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st1llnox said:

Bartending school, to hear a bartender tell it, is a joke and a way to get laughed at behind your back.




:murray:

Just sayin'


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Re: Bartending [Re: BlindEye]
    #19272852 - 12/13/13 10:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Aight thanks guys... I think my path is clear :smile:.


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st1lln0x: I feel like a fucking Gundam
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Re: Bartending [Re: st1llnox]
    #19272903 - 12/13/13 11:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I have 29 years in the bar and restaurant biz. Blindeye is right. You may have to work your way in and when you do it's pretty good. Talking to the bartenders is the best info you're going to get. Worked about 39 hours this week and made 900.00. It fluctuates though. I average about 600.00 in the 3 days I work at one place (7-10 hour shifts), and another part time job waiting I make anywhere between 50-100 a shift in 4-5 hours. So I work maybe 32-36 hours a week and average 7-900 a week.

The person that said say goodbye to all the fun holidays because you'll be working was right. Not to mention New Years day! I am completely burned out. I will be Nursing this time next year though! I went back to school and have an RN degree now. The state boards are my worst enemy. I have been trying to pass it for 2 years now. Got another coming up. I'll pass. :grin:

The average wages at most middle of the road places is about 20 bucks an hour give or take a few. You'll get regulars and some big tips occasionally. A coworker got an 80 dollar tip the other night for checking on a TV channel for them. The inconsistency is what I can not take anymore. That and stupid things like retirement, insurance etc...:smirk:


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Re: Bartending [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #19272920 - 12/13/13 11:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Wow dude thanks for the detailed reply! The bartenders definitely had good information, and it seems clear that bartending school is a little bit dubious.

If you don't mind me asking, do you have to work your way up to each bartending gig you get? Or, once you've been a bona fide bartender for a while somewhere, can you realistically expect to be able to find a bartending gig immediately/enter at that level at a different establishment in a different city if (when, in my case) you move?


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st1lln0x: I feel like a fucking Gundam
Click to friend me on Steam for Counter-Strike
:crankey: IS LIFE SKULLFUCKING YOU!? HAVE SOME FREE MORALE! :awesomenod:
Click if you want to feel you alone can do it! Click if you want to feel confident and beastly! Click if you want courage to let go and move on! And click the message if you need someone to talk to -- I'll understand, even if we "hate" each other on here :hug: :sun:


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Re: Bartending [Re: st1llnox]
    #19273157 - 12/14/13 12:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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r00tuuu123 said:
Quote:

Zombi3 said:
A ducks walks into a bar and asks, “Got any grapes?”

The bartender, confused, tells the ducks that no, his bar doesn’t serve grapes. The duck thanks him and leaves.duck

The next day, the duck returns and says, “Got any grapes?”

Again, the bartender tells him that, no, the bar does not serve grapes, has never served grapes, and, furthermore, will never serve grapes. The duck, a little ruffled, thanks him and leaves.

The next day, the duck returns, but before he can say anything, the bartender begins to yell: ”Listen, duck! This is a bar! We do not serve grapes! If you ever ask for grapes again, I will nail your stupid duck beak to the bar!”

The duck is silent for a moment, and then asks, ”Got any nails?”


Confused, the bartender says no.

”Good!” says the duck. ”Got any grapes?”



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st1llnox said:...once you've been a bona fide bartender for a while somewhere, can you realistically expect to be able to find a bartending gig immediately/enter at that level at a different establishment in a different city if (when, in my case) you move?





i've been a cook for 17 years.
restaurants are everywhere.
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experience is gold in the industry.


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Re: Bartending [Re: st1llnox]
    #19273251 - 12/14/13 01:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Dude St1ll... If you were my fucking bartender you'd be getting mad tips.
DO IT!!!!!!!


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Re: Bartending [Re: st1llnox]
    #19273840 - 12/14/13 09:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Wow dude thanks for the detailed reply! The bartenders definitely had good information, and it seems clear that bartending school is a little bit dubious.

If you don't mind me asking, do you have to work your way up to each bartending gig you get? Or, once you've been a bona fide bartender for a while somewhere, can you realistically expect to be able to find a bartending gig immediately/enter at that level at a different establishment in a different city if (when, in my case) you move?



Once you get the experience in it is easier to just go in as a bartender. In corporate places like Outback, Chilis etc... they make you work up through the waitstaff most of the time. I have seen bar people come in as a bartender though. Best bet is to hit the local bars. You would do good to just go in as a barback and that way you can observe and learn from there. Some bartenders tip the barbacks really well because a barback can make the bartending job very easy, or very hard.

The one who said most drinks are just highballs and a few mixed drinks is right. Only younger folks order the crazy drinks mostly. There is usually a rolodex/index card thing for looking up drinks for quick reference, if not the phones have internet for quick reference. the people that order the unusual shot/drink usually know what is in them, and it is usually equal proportions of liquors.

Then there is the way you relate to people in general. One has to be socially fluid, talk/listen on many subjects, and carry on idle conversation mostly. If you get too deep it can cause problems like the person getting offended on your opinion on certain subjects. Keep it light and remain neutral is my best advice for getting that good tip. Some people have a set amount when they come in. They will not tip you more just because you chatted them up. Some people will. It's all a game and can be really fun and enlightening. Listening is key to the bartending job, and talking when asked questions. Don't be too boisterous, and don't be too shy.

And I have a strict rule to NEVER drink on the job. Maybe a shot at the end of the shift if you are in a neighborhood bar type place. Not worth the risk at a corporate place unless the manager has one with you at the end of the shift. Don't ask if you can have a drink either, wait for the manager to ask you. Getting a buzz defeats the purpose of having the drink for me. I like to work totally sober (maybe some caffeine). But that's just me. If I am drinking the last fucking thing I want to do is work! :grin:

PS,
Never get really wasted at the place you work either.:wink:


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