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PrimalSoup
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Re: Tripping so much it eventually stops working??? [Re: psykonautix]
#19266427 - 12/12/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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psykonautix said: First off I don't believe that shit I just wanted to get some more experienced opinions.
I got an email today from a proclaimed "expert" in meditation containing the following statements:
"Ayahuasca opens up your mind so that you can experience other dimensions and altered states...
But you can gain the same experiences naturally with the In-Between technique...
So why should you learn the In-Between when you can have similar experiences using hallucinogenics like Ayahuasca... With far less effort?
The truth is, hallucinogens do have a lot to offer the spiritual seeker.
The real question is, are you willing to pay the price?
Are you even aware there is a price?
The hallucinogenic experience, as tempting and convenient as it is, is just a quick fix...
And despite the mind-bending experiences, the drugs cause massive damage to the biological brain and more importantly the dimensional mind...
Imagine a door and frame standing in distance. This represents a doorway in your mind, a passage to other dimensions and realities, to the unknown that you are seeking.
Hallucinogenics help you to open the door and BAM! You are flooded with massive details, colors and experiences.
You have this astonishing, indescribable experience.
But there's a catch.
The experience still must be processed through your organic brain. The brain must tag the experiences so that you can relate to it.
Anything your brain cannot tag is washed out.
And you are left with only 1% of that amazing experience.
What you are able to hold onto becomes like the memory of a dream and quickly begins to evaporate from your conscious memory.
But that is not all...
Lets go back to the door. Each time you go through the door using hallucinogens, you are kicking open the door and slamming it shut behind you.
The damages are not seen at first but it does not take long before the door is so damaged, you can no longer use it.
But there is a way to have the experience without causing damage...
When you go through the door using the In-Between...
It is like turning the door handle gently and opening the door with respect, so that the door is not damaged at all..."
He repeatedly talks about there being a price that you pay, and as I have personally had 50+ psyc experiences I have never experienced an inkling of this feeling of a "price" being paid.
Have any of you???
No, your source is an idiot. That's all complete BS. 
There is no long-term price. Unless you've got some sort of latent mental disorder, there's only benefit. Since this CAN'T POSSIBLY BE TRUE people spout all kinds of useless shit - when they've never tried it that way.
Having tripped about a thousand times (mushrooms only) - often for days on end, working - and practiced meditation as well for many years - if there's a "price" I've yet to see it. Assuming always that you GROW YOUR OWN. 
As for "tripping so much it eventually stops working" - not a chance. Some of the most amazing trips I've ever had have been this year. Looking to replicate that in spades next summer. 
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PS oh yeah, and GreyMorph
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highc
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Re: Tripping so much it eventually stops working??? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#19266526 - 12/12/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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After a 244mg oral DMT trip 3 years ago hat changed my life trips have never been the same. My mind always remains pretty grounded. Some slightly more creative thoughts more frequently. The visuals lack unless I take substantial amounts of chemicals. A permenant tolerance.
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Re: Tripping so much it eventually stops working??? [Re: highc]
#19266550 - 12/12/13 04:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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highc said: After a 244mg oral DMT trip 3 years ago hat changed my life trips have never been the same. My mind always remains pretty grounded. Some slightly more creative thoughts more frequently. The visuals lack unless I take substantial amounts of chemicals. A permenant tolerance.
is that a really large dose of dmt? I've only tried it once, had no idea how much and only took two hits and didnt get much out of it.
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Re: Tripping so much it eventually stops working??? [Re: psykonautix]
#19269430 - 12/13/13 05:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Its a fairly heavy dose. This is orally too. So lasts about 4 hours.
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Re: Tripping so much it eventually stops working??? [Re: highc]
#19270792 - 12/13/13 01:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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what is a beginner dose?
I want to be knowledgeable when the time arives
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Re: Tripping so much it eventually stops working??? [Re: GreySatyr]
#19271064 - 12/13/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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GreyMorph said:
Meditation isn't for me, I've tried it. Takes too much time and discipline. I'd rather be in nature making music, that's the meditation that I need, it's basically the same thing.
Everyone's gotta fine their own path, doesn't matter what you call it.....love this statement though!
Sure as hell hope I can always trip, forever and ever, amen.
     
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Re: Tripping so much it eventually stops working??? [Re: psykonautix]
#19273581 - 12/14/13 06:38 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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psykonautix said: what is a beginner dose?
I want to be knowledgeable when the time arives
My goodness no! Almost 5 times a begginer dose.
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