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Pastywhyte
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Re: You'll never guess, my question about cube cultivation [Re: cronicr]
#19344179 - 12/29/13 11:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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A year ago or so a bunch of mods were going through removing outdated info from the main page which is why so many sections are empty. Would be nice if they could be filled in, but it would be even better if more emphasis could be placed on the forums. I myself spent a few months reading all that garbage on the main page before it was deleted, not realizing the treasure trove of info on the boards. This was well before I ever had an account
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Valyr
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Re: You'll never guess, my question about cube cultivation [Re: bodhisatta]
#19344186 - 12/29/13 11:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Getting rid of old info would be a major move in the right direction. I know that I did the whole lurking thing for quite some time myself before ever posting aswell and my first few grows were all outdated. Still worked and all just not optimal.
Few examples: It use to be beleived that tempuratures closer to 80F were optimal for cubes. This is even stated in paul stamets the mushroom cultivator.
It use to be common practice that colonization was done in the dark where now we know that a 12/12 light cycle in all stages is best.
It use to be beleived that casing layers were needed for cubes when there not and that nutritous material such as the same as you use for sub could be used as a proper casing material.
It use to be advised to shake your jars immediately after inoculation where now it is known that its best to let them sit a while to mate.
etc etc. I could go on but those are the 4 very common ones found in teks on this site. I know I found all of them on here and did them lol.
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cronicr



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Re: You'll never guess, my question about cube cultivation [Re: Valyr]
#19344206 - 12/29/13 11:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah they were working hard at it but getting rid of it is just one step, as pasty said to fill in the blanks would be great and save alot of the common q's we see from popping up everyday
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Pastywhyte
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Re: You'll never guess, my question about cube cultivation [Re: Valyr]
#19344210 - 12/29/13 11:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lets be fair tho, coir does make a good casing, just need to apply it a little later. Right now out of the subs I got fruiting, 3 were cased with sterilized coir and verm and are doing just fine compared to the ones cased with 50/50.
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Valyr
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Re: You'll never guess, my question about cube cultivation [Re: Pastywhyte]
#19344265 - 12/29/13 11:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah if it gets applied later like when put into fruiting than my largest objection to it is removed. But to do like in damions bucket tek, wich is probably the most widely used tek by newbs, is incorrect and can help cause problems.
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cronicr



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Re: You'll never guess, my question about cube cultivation [Re: Valyr]
#19344271 - 12/29/13 11:50 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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shroomnub4u
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Re: You'll never guess, my question about cube cultivation [Re: blojo02184]
#19344360 - 12/30/13 12:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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For me it was picking or thinking that there was one perfect method for growing. After month and months of reading I was so confused. I had seen straw grow that produced huge amounts. So I would decide to go that way. Then do a little more reading and hear someone say that straw is contaminate pron. Then see a wbs to manure grow with great success. Then read that rye is better for spawn. It took me quite a while to realize that almost any method can generate good result and that they all have their different pros and cons. And that after a certain point the more I read the more overwhelmed I got. I decide to find a tek that was proven and used materials that were available to me and try it.
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Pistil-Whipped
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Re: You'll never guess, my question about cube cultivation [Re: shroomnub4u]
#19344936 - 12/30/13 04:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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after a certain point the more I read the more overwhelmed I got
Exactly. There is probably a line between good research and obsessive compulsive consumption of all available information - and I definitely crossed it. Having thoroughly read so many different grow logs, articles and cultivation books incorporating all different Teks, their strengths and their liabilities, it seemed the right thing to do was to try to pull the positive aspects from each Tek I read about and combine them. So after all the failed experimental stages of my imagined 'Super-Tek' were out of my system, I finally chose one method that seemed to work for everyone and went with it.
I also had some issues choosing a vendor. Buyer beware.
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cronicr



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Re: You'll never guess, my question about cube cultivation [Re: Pistil-Whipped]
#19344941 - 12/30/13 04:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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after a certain point the more I read the more overwhelmed I got
Exactly. There is probably a line between good research and obsessive compulsive consumption of all available information - and I definitely crossed it. Having thoroughly read so many different grow logs, articles and cultivation books incorporating all different Teks, their strengths and their liabilities, it seemed the right thing to do was to try to pull the positive aspects from each Tek I read about and combine them. So after all the failed experimental stages of my imagined 'Super-Tek' were out of my system, I finally chose one method that seemed to work for everyone and went with it.
I also had some issues choosing a vendor. Buyer beware.
been there done that lol! eventually i found myself doing a little bit of this a little bit of that but once i understood the simple things that make them work it all came together for me
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Pistil-Whipped
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Re: You'll never guess, my question about cube cultivation [Re: cronicr]
#19345324 - 12/30/13 07:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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It use to be advised to shake your jars immediately after inoculation where now it is known that its best to let them sit a while to mate.
This thread is possibly the most informative of all that I've read here at the Shroomery. In just one evening I've found three things wrong with my upcoming grow. Thanks to all of you I found them before everything went south and I wasted some perfectly expensive tissue culture syringes.
Freaking weatherproofed tyvek express mail envelopes. I made about fifteen lids out of it yesterday. It seemed wrong as I was doing it, I kept trying to make air pass through the material and it would but barely. I never stopped to consider there might be two types of tyvek envelope. Now I know...'And knowing is half the battle'
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cronicr



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Re: You'll never guess, my question about cube cultivation [Re: Pistil-Whipped]
#19346016 - 12/30/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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ge the painters suits
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Pistil-Whipped
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Re: You'll never guess, my question about cube cultivation [Re: cronicr]
#19346164 - 12/30/13 12:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just returned home with good .3 micron filter material, rtv sealant and 24 more lids. Another 2 hours of making lids, a short PC session and a tissue culture delivery and I'm back in business...again, lol.
All the questions I should've asked... pride can be a bitch.
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cronicr



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Re: You'll never guess, my question about cube cultivation [Re: Pistil-Whipped]
#19346169 - 12/30/13 12:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pistil-Whipped said: Just returned home with good .3 micron filter material, rtv sealant and 24 more lids. Another 2 hours of making lids, a short PC session and a tissue culture delivery and I'm back in business...again, lol.
All the questions I should've asked... pride can be a bitch.
QFT
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Valyr
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Re: You'll never guess, my question about cube cultivation [Re: Pistil-Whipped]
#19346250 - 12/30/13 01:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I bet it feels good now though . I know Ive made alot of mistakes in this hobby aswell and it always gives me a feeling of vindication and pride once I finally get it right lol.
Like I finally just got pasteurization down last night.. My chest was so puffed up I thought I might need a bra lol.
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cronicr



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Re: You'll never guess, my question about cube cultivation [Re: Valyr]
#19346255 - 12/30/13 01:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Valyr said: My chest was so puffed up I thought I might need a bra lol.
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cronicr



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Re: You'll never guess, my question about cube cultivation [Re: cronicr]
#19347899 - 12/30/13 06:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19344260#19344260 i'm starting to gather links and rip apart the info section if anybody is interested in trying to get it updated, keep in mind that section isn't only cube related
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bodhisatta 
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Re: You'll never guess, my question about cube cultivation [Re: cronicr]
#19350191 - 12/31/13 08:14 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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elasticaltiger said:
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cronicr said: one thing i see alot of is people coming here(new members) and reading the mushroom info section which in my opinion is filled with too many old teks, i wish i had come strait to the cult board but i lurked for a couple years just with the stuff in the info section to guide me, i'd already been at it for years by that point but never really understood how i was doing things i just did them
Yea I looked at the terrarium/FC Teks listed under the panels at the top of the page and  SGFC and Monotubs are not covered.
Fucking THANK YOU. When I joined this site the information at the top of the page was the least fucking helpful compared to just following the topic of the day.
Yea hopefully some people like Chronicr and myself will get some influence on some changes around here 
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Pastywhyte said: A year ago or so a bunch of mods were going through removing outdated info from the main page which is why so many sections are empty. Would be nice if they could be filled in, but it would be even better if more emphasis could be placed on the forums. I myself spent a few months reading all that garbage on the main page before it was deleted, not realizing the treasure trove of info on the boards. This was well before I ever had an account 
Thankfully most of us figure it out eventually
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Pastywhyte said: Lets be fair tho, coir does make a good casing, just need to apply it a little later. Right now out of the subs I got fruiting, 3 were cased with sterilized coir and verm and are doing just fine compared to the ones cased with 50/50.
I just experimented with some sterilized coir casing.
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cronicr said: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19344260#19344260 gonna start collecting links here...enoughs enough
I'll try to help you out, I haven't been around as much or I would be working on my getting started thread too 
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shroomnub4u said: For me it was picking or thinking that there was one perfect method for growing. After month and months of reading I was so confused. I had seen straw grow that produced huge amounts. So I would decide to go that way. Then do a little more reading and hear someone say that straw is contaminate pron. Then see a wbs to manure grow with great success. Then read that rye is better for spawn. It took me quite a while to realize that almost any method can generate good result and that they all have their different pros and cons. And that after a certain point the more I read the more overwhelmed I got. I decide to find a tek that was proven and used materials that were available to me and try it.
Yep, use what works for you. no on can argue with that
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after a certain point the more I read the more overwhelmed I got
Exactly. There is probably a line between good research and obsessive compulsive consumption of all available information - and I definitely crossed it. Having thoroughly read so many different grow logs, articles and cultivation books incorporating all different Teks, their strengths and their liabilities, it seemed the right thing to do was to try to pull the positive aspects from each Tek I read about and combine them. So after all the failed experimental stages of my imagined 'Super-Tek' were out of my system, I finally chose one method that seemed to work for everyone and went with it.
I also had some issues choosing a vendor. Buyer beware.
I've had good luck with all the shroomery sponsors I've dealt with so far.
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Pistil-Whipped said:
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It use to be advised to shake your jars immediately after inoculation where now it is known that its best to let them sit a while to mate.
This thread is possibly the most informative of all that I've read here at the Shroomery. In just one evening I've found three things wrong with my upcoming grow. Thanks to all of you I found them before everything went south and I wasted some perfectly expensive tissue culture syringes.
Freaking weatherproofed tyvek express mail envelopes. I made about fifteen lids out of it yesterday. It seemed wrong as I was doing it, I kept trying to make air pass through the material and it would but barely. I never stopped to consider there might be two types of tyvek envelope. Now I know...'And knowing is half the battle'
 good to hear, you can always shoot me a PM too if you see that I'm on and have a quick Q
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Valyr said:
I bet it feels good now though . I know Ive made alot of mistakes in this hobby aswell and it always gives me a feeling of vindication and pride once I finally get it right lol.
Like I finally just got pasteurization down last night.. My chest was so puffed up I thought I might need a bra lol.
 I think we have all been there in one way or another
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cronicr said: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19344260#19344260 i'm starting to gather links and rip apart the info section if anybody is interested in trying to get it updated, keep in mind that section isn't only cube related
MOAR links
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bodhisatta 
Smurf real estate agent



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Re: You'll never guess, my question about cube cultivation [Re: bodhisatta]
#19352563 - 12/31/13 08:00 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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cronicr



Registered: 08/07/11
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Re: You'll never guess, my question about cube cultivation [Re: bodhisatta]
#19352574 - 12/31/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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how to mainline cubes like a boss
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bluecap
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Re: You'll never guess, my question about cube cultivation [Re: cronicr]
#19352854 - 12/31/13 09:23 PM (10 years, 30 days ago) |
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ha,ha...now that's funny, damn I love fungi on new years eve here...
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