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OfflineLasersshine
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Liberty caps identification help
    #19270241 - 12/13/13 11:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Habitat:
Found in groups in southeast Georgia. In a clearing in the middle of the woods. (Dirt and grass mainly) I noticed ground was indented and puddles had formed where they were found (puddles were dried up when I found them though)

Color:
Golden-Dark brown / tan (imagine perfect piece of toast) gills are off white- black

Stem:
2-3 inches. Long and skinny, bruising not to noticeable. Darker tan if any. Stem around same color as caps, a little lighter

Caps
Small conical caps. Some with nipples some not as noticeable 1/2 inch - 2 inch caps (mostly about 1/2 inch) golden brown- tan color looks to have a dark ring around bottom of cap

Spore print color:
Black/ dark purple. (Hard to tell) I have pics Of everything

Bruising:
Tan. Not very noticeable

Other information:
Scent smells like shrooms I've eaten and found before but i dont know if all mushrooms smell the same


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Re: Liberty caps identification help [Re: Lasersshine]
    #19270267 - 12/13/13 11:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I can't see your pictures, but you don't have liberty caps. They don't grow in the woods. Most likely a Psathyrella species.


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Re: Liberty caps identification help [Re: Lasersshine]
    #19270275 - 12/13/13 11:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Not liberty caps...sorry. that's a northern species of psilocybe. Pics would definitely help with the ID tho.


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Re: Liberty caps identification help [Re: Tangich]
    #19270281 - 12/13/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I can't see your pictures, but you don't have liberty caps. They don't grow in the woods. Most likely a Psathyrella species.




Check his user gallery, I'm thinking maybe Lacrymaria?


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Re: Liberty caps identification help [Re: Lasersshine]
    #19270282 - 12/13/13 11:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Here's pics


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Re: Liberty caps identification help [Re: art2312]
    #19270284 - 12/13/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Looks like a Panaeolus sp to me.... but I'm not sure....


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Re: Liberty caps identification help [Re: art2312]
    #19270292 - 12/13/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

They were in a field. The field was in the woods


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Re: Liberty caps identification help [Re: Lasersshine]
    #19270321 - 12/13/13 11:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

....is that a purple spore print?? I'm not really sure on these, I'm sorry...


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Re: Liberty caps identification help [Re: art2312]
    #19270434 - 12/13/13 11:55 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It looks dark purple and me either. I've hunted plenty of times but these ones found me. Here's a panaramic view of the exact location. Found them in the bottom left


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Re: Liberty caps identification help [Re: Byrain]
    #19270448 - 12/13/13 12:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Tangich said:
I can't see your pictures, but you don't have liberty caps. They don't grow in the woods. Most likely a Psathyrella species.




Check his user gallery, I'm thinking maybe Lacrymaria?




Me, too.


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Re: Liberty caps identification help [Re: mountainplayer]
    #19270487 - 12/13/13 12:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Tangich said:
I can't see your pictures, but you don't have liberty caps. They don't grow in the woods. Most likely a Psathyrella species.




Check his user gallery, I'm thinking maybe Lacrymaria?



Definitely looks like them, one of the less common species maybe.  Psathyrellaceae almost definitely!


Edited by Tangich (12/13/13 12:19 PM)


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Re: Liberty caps identification help [Re: Lasersshine]
    #19270586 - 12/13/13 12:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

P. semilanceata are belived to have a mycorrhizal symbiosis with sedge grass.



These are what you are looking for.


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Re: Liberty caps identification help [Re: dodeski]
    #19270856 - 12/13/13 01:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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P. semilanceata are belived to have a mycorrhizal symbiosis with sedge grass.





Apparently a relationship with grass roots, but not mycorrhizal as such, I believe.


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Re: Liberty caps identification help [Re: Lasersshine]
    #19270898 - 12/13/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

These are in no way psychedelic? The spore print and images of libs on google look very similar to what I have.


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Re: Liberty caps identification help [Re: Lasersshine]
    #19270908 - 12/13/13 02:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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These are in no way psychedelic?



No, they're not.


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The spore print and images of libs on google look very similar to what I have.



No, they don't.


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Re: Liberty caps identification help [Re: Lasersshine]
    #19271142 - 12/13/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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These are in no way psychedelic? The spore print and images of libs on google look very similar to what I have.




Psilocybe semilanceata just doesn't grow near you. Also, liberty caps are much smaller, more slender, and have a slimy layer on the cap called a gelatinous pellicle. Look at this map for a rough idea of distribution:

Map of liberty cap finds.


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Re: Liberty caps identification help [Re: Lasersshine]
    #19272334 - 12/13/13 08:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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These are in no way psychedelic? The spore print and images of libs on google look very similar to what I have.




All mushrooms look similar to some degree!?! The devil is in the details. No nipples and no olivacious tints. Were the wet caps greasy or slimy looking? It doesn't appear to me that they would be. And the stems look too thick. Wayyy not libs. But if you're going to insist, go ahead and eat them. Should be no harm in it other than disappointment.


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Re: Liberty caps identification help [Re: Lasersshine]
    #19278822 - 12/15/13 11:13 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Liberty caps do grow here. I've found em before when if was hunting bit like I said these ones found me that's why I wanted to make sure. Thanks for the help guys These will be thrown away :frown:


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Re: Liberty caps identification help [Re: Lasersshine]
    #19278981 - 12/15/13 11:46 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

When i'd found my first pans, and i was'nt sure about activity, i don't thro them away, i'm waited for a bruising over a few days and looked at them every day :wink: Can be Lacrymaria (sabrophyt), but you see on the ground any wood?
Seems to me, that theyre growing out of the soil?
Do you know if wild animals are around these place?
In this case i would say panaeolinea, but on the first pic one of them had a dark margin, seems to be cintulus (in german called hygrophan like libs, because theyre a little bit dry....).... Is the print more blackish or purple?
Had the stem a hole in the middle?
I don't see on the stems the ring of spores which will marked lacrymaria.....
where the gills are marmoarete grey/black?
What for temperatures you have theyre atm?
But sure no libs :wink:


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Re: Liberty caps identification help [Re: wildhunting]
    #19279017 - 12/15/13 11:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

It is not a Panaeolus. And Lacrymaria lacrymabunda (which has a prominent partial veil)is not the only Lacrymaria species.


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