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DarkPassenger
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Light vs Dark question.
#19269765 - 12/13/13 08:25 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hey all, I know theres mixed reviews regarding ambient light vs darkness during colonization. However mine have been in the dark the entire colonization period (12 days) and have been consolidating in the dark. I read that if you do set the jars in ambient light vs complete darkness you will see pins faster? My question is how much faster will one see pins vs the jars colonized/consolidated in the darkness? The last cpl days I been setting my jars in ambient light for a couple hrs. They have 5 more days of consolidation until ready for birth. I plan on setting my next jars out in ambient light from start to finish to compare the results after this run is done.
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SamhainJ
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I just leave my jars and bags in darkness during the entire colonization/consolidation period..no problems..but having em in the light wont hurt anything. Light is most beneficial when your trying to get your sub to pin i believe. After pinning occurs some days my casings only get a few hours of light
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SamhainJ
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DarkPassenger said: I plan on setting my next jars out in ambient light from start to finish to compare the results after this run is done.
Always keep new jars going while you have something fruiting, it will keep you busy and keep ya from looking at your grow every five minutes and then you wont have to wait when your grow is exausted
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Re: Light vs Dark question. [Re: SamhainJ]
#19269843 - 12/13/13 08:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Light vs Dark question. [Re: SamhainJ]
#19269844 - 12/13/13 08:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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SamhainJ said:
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DarkPassenger said: I plan on setting my next jars out in ambient light from start to finish to compare the results after this run is done.
Always keep new jars going while you have something fruiting, it will keep you busy and keep ya from looking at your grow every five minutes and then you wont have to wait when your grow is exausted
I'm starting 12 more today Im going to go ahead and leave these ones in the darkness for the rest of the 5 days. Do ya think I may of caused anything to happen by exposing them to a little light during the day? I hope I dont get pins in the jars bc of it.
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Re: Light vs Dark question. [Re: bodhisatta]
#19269847 - 12/13/13 09:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Lighting for mushrooms
Thanks dude! Perfect read!! I will try the ambient light with my next 12 jars
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light isn't really a pinning trigger. The number one pinning triggers are when the mycelium is fully colonized(an consolidated for BRF cakes) and slow evaporation of moisture off of the surface of the substrate.
Light is good during colonization,
Read the link I posted above
or here again for your convenience
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Re: Light vs Dark question. [Re: bodhisatta]
#19269867 - 12/13/13 09:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: light isn't really a pinning trigger. The number one pinning triggers are when the mycelium is fully colonized(an consolidated for BRF cakes) and slow evaporation of moisture off of the surface of the substrate.
Light is good during colonization,
Read the link I posted above
or here again for your convenience
I did, it sure cleared up some of my questions. Thanks again brother!
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SamhainJ
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Maybe its outdated info from back in the day, but i remember hearing light is most beneficial during the pinning stage. And like bodhisatta said, light isnt gonna hurt anything during colonization. I just leave mine in the closet so they are out of sight to people that come over to my house, and its an old jabit of mine bc everyone used to think it was beneficial to keep colinizing sub in darkness.
You dont have to really worry about partially colonized jars pinning in light bc myc doesnt usually start pinning until the jars are fully colonized unless theres contamination or something..
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Re: Light vs Dark question. [Re: SamhainJ]
#19269936 - 12/13/13 09:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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SamhainJ said: Maybe its outdated info from back in the day, but i remember hearing light is most beneficial during the pinning stage. And like bodhisatta said, light isnt gonna hurt anything during colonization. I just leave mine in the closet so they are out of sight to people that come over to my house, and its an old jabit of mine bc everyone used to think it was beneficial to keep colinizing sub in darkness.
You dont have to really worry about partially colonized jars pinning in light bc myc doesnt usually start pinning until the jars are fully colonized unless theres contamination or something..
Right on I was more less worried about my fully colonized jars out in light. Since they started the consolidation I been putting them on the table in ambient light for a cpl hrs then back into the cupboard. I will just leave them be until they are done consolidating. They only have 5 more days . My next batch of jars I plan to leave out the entire time from start to finish.
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BRF cakes might pin inside of the jar if you let them consolidate for a really long time. Some people actually wait to see pins then birth them since they know they're ready to go. I usually would let BRF cakes go 7-10 days after they got to 100% colonization and I almost never saw pins form and they were in plenty of light.
Chances are if it's pinning super early it might be contaminated so it's a good indication something going wrong if you see pins before 100%
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Re: Light vs Dark question. [Re: bodhisatta]
#19270287 - 12/13/13 11:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Interesting, I read somewhere about contams causing early pinning. I done a pretty good job sterilizing. All my jars colonized within 12 days with no contams so I'm happy with that. I wonder if they will in in the dark if left colonized too long since light is not a pinning factor?
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DarkPassenger said: Interesting, I read somewhere about contams causing early pinning. I done a pretty good job sterilizing. All my jars colonized within 12 days with no contams so I'm happy with that. I wonder if they will in in the dark if left colonized too long since light is not a pinning factor?
they'll pin light or no light if left long enough.
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Re: Light vs Dark question. [Re: bodhisatta]
#19270382 - 12/13/13 11:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Dark or light, doesn't matter much until after pinning. Then, lots of light.
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SamhainJ
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DarkPassenger said: Interesting, I read somewhere about contams causing early pinning. I done a pretty good job sterilizing. All my jars colonized within 12 days with no contams so I'm happy with that. I wonder if they will in in the dark if left colonized too long since light is not a pinning factor?
Usually if you see pins in a jar thats not fully colonized its due to contams/bacteria present in the substrate..
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