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OfflinePatlal
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'Fake' Mandela memorial interpreter says he was hallucinating
    #19266928 - 12/12/13 05:36 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This thing just keeps getting weirder

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The man accused of faking sign language interpretation at Nelson Mandela's memorial service in Johannesburg is apologizing and saying he may have suffered a schizophrenic episode while on stage.

In an interview with The Associated Press Thursday, Thamsanqa Jantjie said he has schizophrenia and was trying his best to control himself as he heard voices throughout the three-hour memorial event.

"What happened that day, I see angels come to the stadium ... I start realizing that the problem is here. And the problem, I don't know the attack of this problem, how will it come," Jantjie told AP.

He added that he was once hospitalized for his illness in a mental health facility for more than one year, and that he sometimes gets violent during episodes in which he sees things chasing him. He did not describe his violent episodes.

Jantjie said he was "in a difficult position" while he was hearing voices during the memorial, as he knew there were armed police all around him and he didn't want to start panicking.

Several sign-language experts have complained that Jantjie’s signing at the memorial was gibberish, not American Sign Language nor South African signing.

South Africa's leading deaf association denounced Jantjie as a fake and said he was simply making up gestures.

Jantjie told South Africa's The Star newspaper that he works for an interpreting company called SA Interpreters. He did not describe his sign language qualifications nor did he address the allegations that he faked the sign language.

AP says it was able to contact a representative for SA Interpreters Thursday, but the rep declined to comment. The Reuters news agency says its own attempts to track down the company were unsuccessful.

In an interview with Talk Radio 702, Jantjie noted that he had signed at several other high-profile events and questioned why his signing abilities had never been challenged before.

"If I was interpreting not right, why it was not been picked up on by that time? You must remember you are talking about an interpreter that's been interpreting through those years. And if I was interpreting wrong all these years, why should it become an issue now?" he said in broken English.

Jantjie's statements raise serious concerns about the security measures that were in place during the memorial in Johannesburg's 95,000-seat Soccer City stadium, where Prime Minister Stephen Harper, UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, and several other heads of state were in attendance.

South Africa's Deputy Minister of Women, Children and People with Disabilities held a news conference late Thursday to announce that "a mistake happened" in the hiring of Jantjie.

Hendrietta Bogopane-Zulu said government officials have tried to track down the interpreting company, but the owners "have vanished into thin air."
She apologized to deaf people who watched the event and who were offended by Jantjie's incomprehensible signing. She said an investigation is under way to determine how Jantjie was hired and what vetting process he underwent for his security clearance.

The deputy minister said the translation company offered sub-standard services. She declined to say who in South Africa's government was responsible for contracting the company that provided the translator.

"It's an interdepartmental responsibility," she said. "We are trying to establish what happened."


Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/fake-mandela-memorial-interpreter-says-he-was-hallucinating-1.1586311#ixzz2nJK5mQkb




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Re: 'Fake' Mandela memorial interpreter says he was hallucinating [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #19266932 - 12/12/13 05:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

That is interest. Very wow.


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Re: 'Fake' Mandela memorial interpreter says he was hallucinating [Re: Synthe] * 1
    #19266937 - 12/12/13 05:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

It would have been cooler if he actually communicated with Mandela.


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Re: 'Fake' Mandela memorial interpreter says he was hallucinating [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #19266946 - 12/12/13 05:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Wow, that shit is soooo strange, you would think that they would check this person out first. I'm glad he didn't totally flip out and ruin mandelas memorial though


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Re: 'Fake' Mandela memorial interpreter says he was hallucinating [Re: Patlal] * 2
    #19266957 - 12/12/13 05:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Patlal said:

"What happened that day ... I start realizing that the problem is here. And the problem, I don't know the attack of this problem, how will it come," Jantjie told AP.

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South Africa's Deputy Minister of Women, Children and People with Disabilities held a news conference late Thursday to announce that "a mistake happened" in the hiring of Jantjie.

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She apologized to deaf people who watched the event and who were offended by Jantjie's incomprehensible signing.




How ironic, disabled people and an association for disabled people are offended at this man having an attack from his latent health condition. The human species is so wonderful.


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Re: 'Fake' Mandela memorial interpreter says he was hallucinating [Re: Repertoire89] * 1
    #19266962 - 12/12/13 05:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Patlal said:

"What happened that day ... I start realizing that the problem is here. And the problem, I don't know the attack of this problem, how will it come," Jantjie told AP.

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South Africa's Deputy Minister of Women, Children and People with Disabilities held a news conference late Thursday to announce that "a mistake happened" in the hiring of Jantjie.

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She apologized to deaf people who watched the event and who were offended by Jantjie's incomprehensible signing.




How ironic, disabled people and an association for disabled people are offended at this man having an attack from his latent health condition. The human species is so wonderful.




Apparently the deaf have more political power than the mentally ill.


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Re: 'Fake' Mandela memorial interpreter says he was hallucinating [Re: Patlal]
    #19266969 - 12/12/13 05:49 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Lol


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Re: 'Fake' Mandela memorial interpreter says he was hallucinating [Re: Patlal]
    #19266976 - 12/12/13 05:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Well I understand that they feel the need to look into this, really we still don't even know if he's really schizo.


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Re: 'Fake' Mandela memorial interpreter says he was hallucinating [Re: Patlal] * 3
    #19267215 - 12/12/13 06:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You like tripping huh? Well have you ever hallucinated so hard that you pretended to be a sign language interpreter at a major world leaders funeral?


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Re: 'Fake' Mandela memorial interpreter says he was hallucinating [Re: Murph]
    #19267319 - 12/12/13 07:02 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The dude snapped under the mounting pressure of having to sign such a large event that his mind cracked and he started tripping balls.


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Re: 'Fake' Mandela memorial interpreter says he was hallucinating [Re: Nimpo] * 1
    #19267591 - 12/12/13 07:46 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

deaf guy in the audience - Wait is he signaling me to steal third?... is he doing the hand jive?..... holy shit now he's telling me to walk the batter.


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Re: 'Fake' Mandela memorial interpreter says he was hallucinating [Re: Murph] * 1
    #19267629 - 12/12/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Who the fuck cares honestly.

This whole thing is retarded.


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Re: 'Fake' Mandela memorial interpreter says he was hallucinating [Re: Murph]
    #19268748 - 12/12/13 11:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

this makes no sense.  how would he be there in the first place if he had that history?  since when do schizophrenic people like placing themselves in front of thousands of people


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Re: 'Fake' Mandela memorial interpreter says he was hallucinating [Re: thelanzii] * 1
    #19268769 - 12/12/13 11:58 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

:shrug: I have no idea. This entire story is humorous, though. :lol:


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Re: 'Fake' Mandela memorial interpreter says he was hallucinating [Re: Patlal]
    #19268849 - 12/13/13 12:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

In another article he said that he had done a lot of interpretations at different functions for that government... If that is true, shouldn't they have known this prior to this occurrence?


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Re: 'Fake' Mandela memorial interpreter says he was hallucinating [Re: LordSenate] * 1
    #19268931 - 12/13/13 12:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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In another article he said that he had done a lot of interpretations at different functions for that government... If that is true, shouldn't they have known this prior to this occurrence?




Yeah, but did those functions ever entail eulogizing the man who saved South Africa? This was undoubtedly some heavy shit.


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Re: 'Fake' Mandela memorial interpreter says he was hallucinating [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #19268956 - 12/13/13 01:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah you're right but damn, wouldn't they try and put in some effort to make sure he knew what the hell he was doing? That's just fricken awful, regardless of who the man was or has done. It's extremely disrespectful to anyone in that scenario.


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Re: 'Fake' Mandela memorial interpreter says he was hallucinating [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #19269267 - 12/13/13 03:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Patlal said:
This thing just keeps getting weirder

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The deputy minister said the translation company offered sub-standard services. She declined to say who in South Africa's government was responsible for contracting the company that provided the translator.









clearly this was the fault of George Bush


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Re: 'Fake' Mandela memorial interpreter says he was hallucinating [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #19269270 - 12/13/13 03:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah, but did those functions ever entail eulogizing the man who saved South Africa?





what did mandella do, catch a nuke with his scrotum or something?


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Re: 'Fake' Mandela memorial interpreter says he was hallucinating [Re: Enjoywho]
    #19269797 - 12/13/13 08:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Enjoywho said:
Who the fuck cares honestly.

This whole thing is retarded.




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