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Re: Active Gymnopilus identification help [Re: UncommonShaman]
    #19268787 - 12/13/13 12:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I looked at the ones that you suggested- Flammuloides, velaglutinosa, decorata, alnicola, as well as a myriad of others.




I never suggested a species level ID. I provided examples of similar species to demonstrate a similarity with the species in subgenus Flammuloides.

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Nothing showing, or describing anything about green. 





At this point I am wondering if you are just trolling.

P. decorata p.256

Stipe... silky, green-yellow

P. velaglutinosa p. 253

Stipe... silky green yellow

There are plenty of species of Pholiota that feature olive pigments.

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Blue+Yellow=Green...





Ya don't say?


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Spores: Brownish rusty orange





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I am awaiting spore prints.






Well, that just doesn't add up.


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I have a pretty solid feeling that the genus I have is not that.




Ok. Are you sure you aren't experiencing confirmation bias?


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Re: Active Gymnopilus identification help [Re: Gravija]
    #19268820 - 12/13/13 12:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

No confirmation bias.  I am looking hard at everything i can find.  I am not disputing you because I believe you are wrong, i am only skeptical because the closest thing i have seen yet are Gymns.  I am awaiting the spore print on white printer paper, because the first assessment of spore color was made based on what I could see in the gills, on caps, and the small amount that deposited on cardboard overnight.  The prints of two mushrooms were not visible, potentially because they havent dropped spores yet, or are not visible on white paper (which I assume means white spores, and is not what I am interested in getting sick over).


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Re: Active Gymnopilus identification help [Re: UncommonShaman]
    #19268841 - 12/13/13 12:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Sometimes it helps the printing process if you put a small drop of water on the Pileus and cover the mushroom with a glass. Post the print tomorrow! Even if they are Pholiota, you should keep the dried material. The species you have found is interesting, and the pics are nice. It's always nice to have nice pics of a rare find identified to species and confirmed with microscopy.


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Re: Active Gymnopilus identification help [Re: Gravija]
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Re: Active Gymnopilus identification help [Re: Gravija]
    #19268947 - 12/13/13 12:58 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

The alnicola is the closest match yet...  I shall post the spore prints tomorrow.  I am doing two different ones again, with several caps. I am slightly worried that the cold will ruin my find... its frosted over outside, and the ones I picked are outside awaiting the morning sun for further drying.  Will the cold ruin my material? Are Pholiotas edible?  Are any of them deadly?  Are the gallerina the only similar inedible look-alikes, as compared to pholiotas?


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Re: Active Gymnopilus identification help [Re: bloodworm]
    #19268951 - 12/13/13 12:59 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

what kind is that one?


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Re: Active Gymnopilus identification help [Re: UncommonShaman]
    #19269009 - 12/13/13 01:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

www.mushroomobserver.org/106882

your observation looks like something near Pholiota alnicola.

http://www.mushroomexpert.com/pholiota_alnicola.html


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Re: Active Gymnopilus identification help [Re: vjp]
    #19269283 - 12/13/13 03:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Pholiota species



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Re: Active Gymnopilus identification help [Re: maynardjameskeenan]
    #19269291 - 12/13/13 03:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Are they food?  Can you eat them?  I know they wont be active, but I dont want to throw them away if they are a source of anything good for the body (antioxidants, vitamins, minerals, antibiotics n such) ...


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Re: Active Gymnopilus identification help [Re: UncommonShaman]
    #19269298 - 12/13/13 03:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

no...they are most likely toxic.
do not eat them.


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Re: Active Gymnopilus identification help [Re: UncommonShaman]
    #19269442 - 12/13/13 05:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Just another example of Pholiota trying to act like a Gym.


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Re: Active Gymnopilus identification help [Re: lsms]
    #19281704 - 12/15/13 10:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Glad to know all of these things.  Thank you all for sharing your knowledge with me!


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