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OfflineBlueCoyote
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Re: The Earth's Conscious [Re: deCypher]
    #19266383 - 12/12/13 03:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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all this beauty said:
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LittleDaddy said:
As for the purpose.. I don't know. Maybe to compose a universe of complete good.



Seems that way to me, too.

Detecting "benevolence" in the universe is a no-no among some thinkers in this department, you know.  I've been threatened with banishment from certain Daoist internet forums for even suggesting that the way of things (the Dao) is biased in the direction of benevolence.  The "Unbiased, Neutral, Impartial, and Essentially-Uncaring Universe" is a sort of basic tenet of faith for some Eastern metaphysicians.

Well...  fuck that, I say. 

I have no interest in living in that kind of universe.  :wink:




Why do you think the Universe is biased towards benevolence?

Both benevolence and malevolence are just concepts that we, as humans, apply onto an uncaring world IMO.



That's an easy one. We were brought up in a specific context, which fed our bringing up :smile:
Conscious beings realize this constellation as benevolence.


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Re: The Earth's Conscious [Re: Icelander]
    #19266518 - 12/12/13 03:54 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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We can't see the future.

Aside from the power sources you mentioned, wave energy is a possibility in Oregon.




The reason they are being advanced at a snails pace is that most people don't give a rats ass unless it can come in cheaper than gasoline which it can't.  If we really wanted clean energy we'd have had it long ago.





Which it can't?

Energy sources like wind, solar, wave, etc. are all free energy sources unlike the search and processing of fossil fuels like you named, maybe not as efficient as fossil fuel but definitely at no cost. And as far as I know the three I mentioned are clean energy sources.

I dont think you have to only look down upon the human race and what we've done.

Communal change starts with yourself.


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Re: The Earth's Conscious [Re: Psychaesthetics]
    #19266965 - 12/12/13 05:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Very well said. I appreciate that input ^

We seem to get caught up talking shit on ourselves when we are learning and making advances, not as fast as possible because of greed, by what is money and value anyways? just something we throw onto an object.


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Re: The Earth's Conscious [Re: LittleDaddy]
    #19267009 - 12/12/13 05:56 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

the earths consciousness must be pretty pissed off to create humans:shrug:


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Re: The Earth's Conscious [Re: LittleDaddy]
    #19268078 - 12/12/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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unlike your optimism :monkeydance:

I would rather call myself skeptical at least much of the time.




Sometimes we can take skepticism too far.




You can never take skepticism too far imo.  And who's this "we" you're referring to? I don't have a problem here.


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Re: The Earth's Conscious [Re: i like cow poo]
    #19268080 - 12/12/13 09:12 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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the earths consciousness must be pretty pissed off to create humans:shrug:



:lol:


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Re: The Earth's Conscious [Re: Icelander]
    #19269063 - 12/13/13 01:46 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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unlike your optimism :monkeydance:

I would rather call myself skeptical at least much of the time.




Sometimes we can take skepticism too far.




You can never take skepticism too far imo.  And who's this "we" you're referring to? I don't have a problem here.




I'm yet to hear a positive word from you :smile:

I think he's implying that you're only looking at the negative side of things rather than being rational, which I would call pessimism

But youre entitled to your opinion as i am entitled to mine, and i have hope for the future


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Re: The Earth's Conscious [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #19269077 - 12/13/13 01:51 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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In reply to the original post, this sounds a lot like the theory of the "Noosphere."  Basically it states that all consciousness, from humans, animals, even plants -- that of Earth itself -- is linked into a collective, unified consciousness that underlies or envelops the entire biosphere.  Many mystics and psychonauts have reported tuning into this network, and sensing a unity that exists at a more fundamental level than the everyday, one which comprises all the consciousness of Earth.  For example, you could be at a (good) party and observe that all of the partygoers are behaving according to a rhythm that is somehow common to everyone and is normally beneath the surface.  Everyone is him- or herself, but there is a current guiding everyone's activity, and all are in some kind of active union.  It is very difficult to describe, and hard to see.

But that is what I thought of when I read the post.



This theme seems to permeate my psychedelic experiences during the heavier dosages. 
Consciousness, this ineffable side effect of existence, does seem to run far outside ourselves.  The feeling always ends up going unmentioned while among a group of trippers for me.  Talking about it out loud only serves to cheapen it it some way personally.
The idea that the earth is somehow tied together consciously echoes in some of the ayahuasceros maps of hyperspace. 
It almost makes you wonder if there are other planets' consciousness' out there.:zoom:


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Re: The Earth's Conscious [Re: Psychaesthetics] * 1
    #19269137 - 12/13/13 02:13 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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unlike your optimism :monkeydance:

I would rather call myself skeptical at least much of the time.




Sometimes we can take skepticism too far.




You can never take skepticism too far imo.  And who's this "we" you're referring to? I don't have a problem here.




I'm yet to hear a positive word from you :smile:





Icelander is a good guy; you just gotta get to know him. He's a true hippie, from the psychedelic era. He knows a lot about mysticism and 'enlightenment.' I've seen that side of him before.


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Re: The Earth's Conscious [Re: Space Elf]
    #19269227 - 12/13/13 03:02 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Icelander is a good guy; you just gotta get to know him. He's a true hippie, from the psychedelic era. He knows a lot about mysticism and 'enlightenment.' I've seen that side of him before.




You are probably right, I have only been around for a couple of days.
I may have been too quick with my comment, my apologies


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Re: The Earth's Conscious [Re: Psychaesthetics]
    #19269233 - 12/13/13 03:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hehe, don't worry about it, buddy! :grin: It took me a longgggg time to realize that about Icelander. :lol: Knowing Icelander, he's probably gonna come in here and deny what I just told you. :lol:


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Re: The Earth's Conscious [Re: Space Elf]
    #19270278 - 12/13/13 11:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

You hit in right on the nail Psychaesthetics about what I was saying about Icelander. And I have yet to see that side of him as well, but his information refuted mine, so I'm thankful for that.

TheGreenArrow, I find that any dose I undergo the more I feel this myself. Maybe these substances make you feel this consciousness and if we were to take another living planet's psychedelics we could feel its consciousness... pretty weird thought. haha or maybe psychedelics are geared to make us feel closer to nature. either way, I'm on board!  :etjesus:


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