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Re: Fuck religion [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #19268795 - 12/13/13 12:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Acaterpillar said:
Fuck people who divide people.


Religion has nothing to do with it.




I like this. As a  species we need to learn to live and work together. On a global scale. Personally think organised religion is completely at odds with this objective. Wont hold it against a man or woman for being christian, hindu or whatever. Just think that thats the one of the fundamental aspects of a lot of religions - get on board or burn in hell :shrug:


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Re: Fuck religion [Re: Unifloo]
    #19268799 - 12/13/13 12:06 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Nemmies said:
I feel like that is just human nature to divide people.  Religion can be good and bad obviously
  Karl marx has some interesting things to say about religion.



So does Dawkins:

"In my view not only is science corrosive to religion, but religion is corrosive to science. It teaches people to be satisfied with trivial, supernatural, non-explanations – and blinds them to the wonderful real explanations that we have within our grasp. It teaches them to accept authority, revelation, and faith –  instead of always insisting on evidence. "


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Re: Fuck religion [Re: Unifloo]
    #19268810 - 12/13/13 12:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Unifloo said:
Just think that thats the one of the fundamental aspects of a lot of religions - get on board or burn in hell :shrug:




they are trying to help you, not the religion's fault you're dead set on going to hell

i think we all know who the real villian is here: FB


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Re: Fuck religion [Re: Unifloo]
    #19268835 - 12/13/13 12:19 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Just think that thats the one of the fundamental aspects of a lot of religions - get on board or burn in hell :shrug:




No sir.
Christianity is the primary one that asserts this position; and it's only certain denominations of Christianity as well (though most of the popular ones now days are a part of this school of thought).

And that only came about later on in the development of Christianity. Like with the Councils of Nicea, the crusades, and multiple inquisitions.

The Gnostics believed God was in everyone and that being a good person was more important than surrendering yourself to the Christian life.

Sects of Islam also assert this as well; but Christianity was the first one to make it a major element in their religious institution.


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Re: Fuck religion [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #19268843 - 12/13/13 12:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think you are downplaying the role of Muslims in that regard. You only have to look at anywhere else in the world to see that the amount of people that believe in the "get on board or burn in hell" is extremely prevalent.


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Re: Fuck religion [Re: Unifloo]
    #19268845 - 12/13/13 12:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Well it goes past the petty personal bullshit of being bitter or caring about how likable/unlikable I am. I dont really give a shit about myself. I dont hate or hold it against people who are brought up into this shit. It is what it is.

What concerns me is that my children or your children might have to grow up in a social climate where this fantasy bullshit has some kind of place in normal dialogue



I don't see any problem with the story in your first post. ( I think it was a nice little story) Seems to me the mother was giving the kid the best answers she could. Being put on the spot. So what is your major malfunction? And yes you are Unlikable, Know why? Cause you are being a Pseudo-Intellectual sanctimonious prick that can't respect others views. I am a total dick but I also understand that people are entitled to their opinions no matter how wrong I may think they are. So you dis-agree so fuckin what? Ain't no skin of your back.


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Re: Fuck religion [Re: Unifloo]
    #19268851 - 12/13/13 12:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Unifloo said:

Well it goes past the petty personal bullshit of being bitter or caring about how likable/unlikable I am. I dont really give a shit about myself. I dont hate or hold it against people who are brought up into this shit. It is what it is.

What concerns me is that my children or your children might have to grow up in a social climate where this fantasy bullshit has some kind of place in normal dialogue



I don't see any problem with the story in your first post. ( I think it was a nice little story) Seems to me the mother was giving the kid the best answers she could. Being put on the spot. So what is your major malfunction? And yes you are Unlikable, Know why? Cause you are being a Pseudo-Intellectual sanctimonious prick that can't respect others views. I am a total dick but I also understand that people are entitled to their opinions no matter how wrong I may think they are. So you dis-agree so fuckin what? Ain't no skin of your back.




How can someone even say that its "fantasy bullshit"... You can't safely say it is or isn't fantasy and to try and do that would be pretty damn silly.


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Re: Fuck religion [Re: Acaterpillar]
    #19268854 - 12/13/13 12:26 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Christianity is a mind control method of the masses.
Teaching that it is beneficial to be poor and work hard in attempts to reach heaven.  The rich are the unlucky ones because they will not be accepted into heaven.


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Re: Fuck religion [Re: thelanzii]
    #19268870 - 12/13/13 12:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah that's not a gross generalization or anything......


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Re: Fuck religion [Re: LordSenate]
    #19268876 - 12/13/13 12:33 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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r00tuuu123 said:
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Unifloo said:

Well it goes past the petty personal bullshit of being bitter or caring about how likable/unlikable I am. I dont really give a shit about myself. I dont hate or hold it against people who are brought up into this shit. It is what it is.

What concerns me is that my children or your children might have to grow up in a social climate where this fantasy bullshit has some kind of place in normal dialogue



I don't see any problem with the story in your first post. ( I think it was a nice little story) Seems to me the mother was giving the kid the best answers she could. Being put on the spot. So what is your major malfunction? And yes you are Unlikable, Know why? Cause you are being a Pseudo-Intellectual sanctimonious prick that can't respect others views. I am a total dick but I also understand that people are entitled to their opinions no matter how wrong I may think they are. So you dis-agree so fuckin what? Ain't no skin of your back.




How can someone even say that its "fantasy bullshit"... You can't safely say it is or isn't fantasy and to try and do that would be pretty damn silly.




Basically any person that tells their kids that thousands of people somewhere in the world died just to test your faith are dangerous and need to be called on their bullshit


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Re: Fuck religion [Re: LordSenate]
    #19268878 - 12/13/13 12:34 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I think you are downplaying the role of Muslims in that regard. You only have to look at anywhere else in the world to see that the amount of people that believe in the "get on board or burn in hell" is extremely prevalent.




True. Though there are many sects of Islam that do not assert this.


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Re: Fuck religion [Re: LordSenate]
    #19268881 - 12/13/13 12:36 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

look into it a bit.  it was marx' main point in his literature. 
Sure it is general, but I still think it is valid.
You dont think religion is a damn good method of mind control?


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Re: Fuck religion [Re: thelanzii]
    #19268883 - 12/13/13 12:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Society is as much a form of mind control as religion.
Religion just happens to be a little more narrow minded...


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Re: Fuck religion [Re: Unifloo]
    #19268884 - 12/13/13 12:37 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

You make it sound like religion in and of itself is fantasy bullshit.. Which certainly can't be proven or disproved. There is also no way for you to know that a thousand people died to test someones faith either.


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Re: Fuck religion [Re: thelanzii]
    #19268888 - 12/13/13 12:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

advertising is mind control to the unsuspecting viewer, religion is devotional trance (sometimes, not always). there's a huge difference.


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Re: Fuck religion [Re: g00ru]
    #19268890 - 12/13/13 12:39 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Even mind control in the form of advertisement can be effective even to the suspecting viewer. Sometimes it is very subtle yet very effective.


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Re: Fuck religion [Re: LordSenate]
    #19268898 - 12/13/13 12:42 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Unifloo said:

Well it goes past the petty personal bullshit of being bitter or caring about how likable/unlikable I am. I dont really give a shit about myself. I dont hate or hold it against people who are brought up into this shit. It is what it is.

What concerns me is that my children or your children might have to grow up in a social climate where this fantasy bullshit has some kind of place in normal dialogue



I don't see any problem with the story in your first post. ( I think it was a nice little story) Seems to me the mother was giving the kid the best answers she could. Being put on the spot. So what is your major malfunction? And yes you are Unlikable, Know why? Cause you are being a Pseudo-Intellectual sanctimonious prick that can't respect others views. I am a total dick but I also understand that people are entitled to their opinions no matter how wrong I may think they are. So you dis-agree so fuckin what? Ain't no skin of your back.




How can someone even say that its "fantasy bullshit"... You can't safely say it is or isn't fantasy and to try and do that would be pretty
damn silly.




You can't *safely* say that wizards and elves are or are not fantasy bullshit by the same token. You can be pretty fucking confident they're fantasy though, and to claim otherwise would be... pretty damn silly.


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Re: Fuck religion [Re: LordSenate]
    #19268906 - 12/13/13 12:45 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

for sure, gotta keep the focus up so they can't pull a fast one on ya


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Re: Fuck religion [Re: g00ru]
    #19268918 - 12/13/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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advertising is mind control to the unsuspecting viewer



That's why I stopped watching television.
It's all propaganda sugar coated with social drama.


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Re: Fuck religion [Re: OnePerEyeM8]
    #19268920 - 12/13/13 12:48 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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You can't *safely* say that wizards and elves are or are not fantasy bullshit by the same token. You can be pretty fucking confident they're fantasy though, and to claim otherwise would be... pretty damn silly.




maybe they were real once and shall be again


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