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Unifloo
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Fuck religion
#19268369 - 12/12/13 10:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was on a well known social media website tonight, I seen this shit and it made me sick 
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Kid: please don't forget to pack the food for the poor people in my school tomorrow.
Mommy: Sure, are we not poor ourselves?
Kid: No Mommy, we have food to eat and I have toys to play.
Mommy: (Smiled) Good one. That's why we thank God always for what we have.
Mommy, does God takes care of the poor?
Mommy: Of course.
Kid:Why does he make typhoon people hungry in the Philippines and in Africa? I don't want God to take care of me always, I want him to take care of the poor.
Mommy: Taken aback by the question and sat in silence for a while looking at the wondering and innocent child).
Kid: Tell me mommy, is God really watching everybody? Can he not only watch the poor people instead?
Mommy: God takes care of everyone and minds everybody in the world. Sometimes, he gives a test to some people and some part of the world to keep them strong.
Kid: Mommy, are they in school too to have the test? How can they pass the test if they are hungry?
Mommy: (Now, I am in deep trouble.) My child, the world is so big and it is sometimes hard to understand. No matter what happens, God takes care of everyone. Sleep for now and soon you will get what I mean.
Kid: (Suddenly bursted into tears) I really hope God will take care of the poor.I don't want them to die.
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I understand that this is a piece of crap thats been pulled from some christian website and has since been thrown around fb and the likes a million times. Still pisses me off that there are people out there who will force this into their kids heads
I find it very ironic that in this exchange the child asks the more pressing and logical questions.
Here is a small human being who is trying to make sense of the world. He or she, probably not even ten years old is already finding flaws with the most basic concepts of christian dogma
And what does the adult say.....?
Well the adult has to think to respond... and she doesnt come up with any answers. The adult comes up with some contrary bullshit that doesnt make any sense at all or address the valid points brought up by this child.
I can understand if anyone has a personal faith in god or whatever you want to call it. I dont have the answers - no one does. I bet theres an almost infinite amount of shit that we do not know about. This brainwashing pisses me off. Feel sorry for the kids. I can only imagie how skewed my world view would be if I was raised to beleive that some twat killed thousands of people in the phillipines just to test my faith. Rant over
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Re: Fuck religion [Re: Unifloo] 1
#19268398 - 12/12/13 10:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your neckbeard is showing
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Re: Fuck religion [Re: Unifloo]
#19268407 - 12/12/13 10:27 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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What does religion have to do with this? You're talking about what people do in the name of religion not religion in and of itself. (That also means people using religion to their own ends)
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Unifloo
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Re: Fuck religion [Re: Unifloo] 2
#19268435 - 12/12/13 10:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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My beef is with organised religion. What made me sick about this was that you have a parent who so heavily forcing their own personal dogma on their kids. Again - I have no problem if you or anyone else believes in god or a higher power, I see absolutely nothing wrong with this because none of us know any of the big answers to any big questions.
What sickens me here is that you have a child that is extremely bright, who is at a stage in its life where it is trying to make sense of the world around it. What this child gets for answers is some hocus pocus bullshit about god killing people to test our faith. This is what I have a problem with... what I posted was a pretty extreme example but its pretty common in some circles.
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Re: Fuck religion [Re: Unifloo]
#19268445 - 12/12/13 10:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Organized religion isn't necessarily like that either.. There are tons of churches and gatherings in each particular religion then are much more open minded about things.. The world is huge, you can't classify anything to just a specific topic.. Like saying all religion is bad, or all police or bad..etc. etc.
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LordSenate said: The world is huge, you can't classify anything to just a specific topic.. Like saying all religion is bad, or all police or bad..etc. etc.
Im going to say that organised religion in general (life isnt black and white) is bad. Thinks its out of date.
Cant hate on the fake parent and child in the above copy and paste. They have good intentions, and good hearts too. Would like to have those people looking out for me.
Thing is with most organised religions it boils down to some crackpot idea that some peasant was gods spawn a couple thousand years ago when the earth was flat and stoning people was in fashion. That dialogue belongs in that time. Honestly, can you imagine talking to your kid like that?
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Re: Fuck religion [Re: Unifloo]
#19268489 - 12/12/13 10:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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As with anything, it all depends on how you use it. Religion can effectively help raise peoples spirits and push through things that otherwise would be very difficult. As you've mentioned though that people can misuse it as well.
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religion isn't the problem, it's the majority of people who follow it. Muslims don't preach to blow people up, christianity doesn't preach to be redneck antisemetic assholes, FUCK society in general.
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Yeah.. Religion at its essence is pretty harmless. I've certainly met muslims as well as christians that are very friendly and open-minded.. and what nothing more than to live in peace.
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Unifloo
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Fuckspice said: religion isn't the problem, it's the majority of people who follow it. Muslims don't preach to blow people up, christianity doesn't preach to be redneck antisemetic assholes, FUCK society in general.
Yeah pretty much. Society has its good moments though. People are alright too, most of 'em
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Re: Fuck religion [Re: Unifloo]
#19268542 - 12/12/13 11:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I grew up really depressed. Was brought up Catholic and honestly my belief in a god got me through some really tough times.
When I got to be an adult I "grew into myself", questioned those childhood beliefs in a god, and now I don't believe anymore.
I can't say growing up with religion hurt or confused me at all. 
The confusion came when I reached adulthood and the age of reason, but that confusion really didn't last long.
Santa really enriched my childhood. I don't believe in Santa anymore either. (Sorry, underage Pubbers).
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Re: Fuck religion [Re: Set]
#19268621 - 12/12/13 11:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Set said: I grew up really depressed. Was brought up Catholic and honestly my belief in a god got me through some really tough times.
When I got to be an adult I "grew into myself", questioned those childhood beliefs in a god, and now I don't believe anymore.
I can't say growing up with religion hurt or confused me at all. 
The confusion came when I reached adulthood and the age of reason, but that confusion really didn't last long.
Santa really enriched my childhood. I don't believe in Santa anymore either. (Sorry, underage Pubbers).
Good post. I was brought up christian but never really bought into it. I came to the conclusion that organised religion is BS in my early teens. Religion has not been a notably negative factor in my life.
I've thought about this before, I dunno, I think that we dont need dogma or organised religion to instill morals. I dont think that we need organised religion to give people hope. All I need is help from friends and family or maybe if I wasnt so lucky a good samaritan.
I just hate these fairy tail notions of god killing people haphazardly for any reason at all. It is insanity. Im sure there are millions and millions or people in the world that have felt some kind of positive enrichment from religion. What Im ranting about is the dogma that insists that you must believe the way I believe; that you must worship the way I worship. And all of the crackpot bullshit that goes with it. And there is a lot of bullshit
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Re: Fuck religion [Re: Unifloo]
#19268656 - 12/12/13 11:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Some people need the reassurance that there's a benevolent bearded man in the clouds looking out for them. I don't dislike them for it.
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nicechrisman said: Some people need the reassurance that there's a benevolent bearded man in the clouds looking out for them. I don't dislike them for it.
I dont think anybody needs it though. There are societies/cultures in the world where people dont have this kind of cosmic view and they seem to lead pretty normal lives. I may tell my kid that santa clause exists just becaues it made my childhood that bit more magical... no one lives past 16 without realising that santa claus was just a fairy tale and that its a complete fabrication.
Telling my kid that other people died so that God could test our faith? Thats what I have a massive problem with
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Re: Fuck religion [Re: Unifloo]
#19268711 - 12/12/13 11:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah but what's the point in disliking people for being different from you? It's not going to change anything. It's just gonna make you bitter and less likeable.
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Re: Fuck religion [Re: Unifloo]
#19268735 - 12/12/13 11:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Unifloo said: I may tell my kid that santa clause exists just becaues it made my childhood that bit more magical... no one lives past 16 without realising that santa claus was just a fairy tale and that its a complete fabrication.
When my sister and I were kids we'd ask my dad "Is Santa Claus really real?"
My dad would always answer "Of course! I definitely believe in him!"
(my dad was Santa )
This is slightly off topic, though maybe not.
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Unifloo
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nicechrisman said: Yeah but what's the point in disliking people for being different from you? It's not going to change anything. It's just gonna make you bitter and less likeable.
Well it goes past the petty personal bullshit of being bitter or caring about how likable/unlikable I am. I dont really give a shit about myself. I dont hate or hold it against people who are brought up into this shit. It is what it is.
What concerns me is that my children or your children might have to grow up in a social climate where this fantasy bullshit has some kind of place in normal dialogue
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Re: Fuck religion [Re: Unifloo]
#19268755 - 12/12/13 11:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Fuck people who divide people.
Religion has nothing to do with it.
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nicechrisman said: Some people need the reassurance that there's a benevolent bearded man in the clouds looking out for them. I don't dislike them for it.
I'm highly skeptical that anyone truly needs the reassurance of that exact scenario. I think that many people need certain things that they receive from that belief (like sense of community/belonging, finding purpose, moral direction), though I'm fairly confident that any given positive of religious faith can be attained elsewhere - to at least an equivalent degree and by means that don't require supporting and perpetuating, either directly or indirectly, an ancient social construct responsible for unfathomable amounts of prejudice, repression, and suffering.
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Acaterpillar said: Fuck people who divide people.
Religion has nothing to do with it.
I feel like that is just human nature to divide people. Religion can be good and bad obviously Karl marx has some interesting things to say about religion.
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