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New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot
    #19268358 - 12/12/13 10:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot
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First Washington and Colorado, and now -- maybe -- New York.

On Wednesday morning, New York state Sen. Liz Krueger, a Manhattan Democrat, unveiled a proposal to fully legalize and tax marijuana in the state.

At a press conference at City Hall in downtown Manhattan, Krueger denounced the prohibition of marijuana as a “policy that just hasn’t worked.”

“The illegal marijuana economy is alive and well,” she said, “and our unjust laws are branding nonviolent New Yorkers, especially young adults, as criminals, creating a vicious cycle that ruins lives and needlessly wastes taxpayer dollars.”

The bill represents the third effort in 2013 to topple legal barriers to pot use in New York state. Proposals to legalize marijuana for seriously ill patients and to fix a loophole in New York’s decades-old marijuana decriminalization law both passed the state Assembly earlier this year, but the state Senate adjourned in June without taking action on either measure.

Advocates for pot legalization hope the new bill will fare better, but even they concede that the state’s failure to adopt far more modest reforms doesn’t bode well for the sweeping new proposal.

“It’s unlikely that this bill is passing this year,” said Gabriel Sayegh, the New York director of the Drug Policy Alliance, a group that advocates for the legalization of all drugs.

Still, he added, “it is an important contribution to the discussion that we should be having about our broken marijuana policies in New York.”

About 600,000 people have been arrested for marijuana possession in the state since 1997, according to the Drug Policy Alliance. In New York City, more people are arrested for marijuana possession than for any other offense. As Krueger stressed at the press conference, the vast majority are black and Latino, despite evidence showing that marijuana use is more common among whites.

Gov. Andrew Cuomo has expressed ambivalence about legalizing marijuana even for medical use. But he led an effort last year to make possession of marijuana in public view a violation instead of a misdemeanor. Under a state law that has been on the books since 1977, possession of a small amount of marijuana is a minor offense on par with jaywalking. But if you you are caught holding or smoking pot in public view, you can be charged with a much more serious offense -- a misdemeanor punishable by up to three months in jail and a $500 fine.

Civil-liberties advocates say that many of the young black and Latino men who are charged with this offense bring the drug out into the open only after police tell them to empty their pockets. The outgoing New York City Police Commissioner Ray Kelly directed his department to put an end to the practice last year, but critics of pot prohibition say that broader reforms are needed.

“We’re spending taxpayer money to ruin lives, disproportionately for those from communities of color, with no real public policy goal to be found in any of it,” Krueger said.


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: Ythan]
    #19268385 - 12/12/13 10:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Please please please!!





“It’s unlikely that this bill is passing this year,” said Gabriel Sayegh, the New York director of the Drug Policy Alliance, a group that advocates for the legalization of all drugs.


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: KingKnowledge]
    #19269229 - 12/13/13 03:03 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Please please please!!





“It’s unlikely that this bill is passing this year,”
said Gabriel Sayegh, the New York director of the Drug Policy Alliance, a group that advocates for the legalization of all drugs.


:feelsbadman:



Well then it's a good thing that the year is almost over! :ruggedwink:


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
    #19269263 - 12/13/13 03:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

well if you let us vote on the thing..


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: Konyap]
    #19269798 - 12/13/13 08:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Anyone know how this will relate to people on probation?  I gather since those on probation can't drink alcohol the same will go for pot. Which is just ludicrous. Prohibiting one from something perfectly legal is pretty preposterous.


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: DeadPhan]
    #19269818 - 12/13/13 08:50 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i dunno

people can smoke cigs

cigs are way more harmful

giving people in jail pot would be sort of a step up lol


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: Konyap] * 2
    #19269869 - 12/13/13 09:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Indeed. In fact, I'd say if they let  the prisoners smoke weed, I'd bet there'd be a lot less violence in the jails.


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: Le_Canard]
    #19269909 - 12/13/13 09:21 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

This would be positively incredible for me as a resident of a town no more than 20 minutes from the NY state line:awetongue:


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: Absent Minded]
    #19269912 - 12/13/13 09:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The thing is we don't need legal pot AT ALL

we need less house raids and racist cop a feel tactics by the police


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: Le_Canard]
    #19269945 - 12/13/13 09:32 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Indeed. In fact, I'd say if they let  the prisoners smoke weed, I'd bet there'd be a lot less violence in the jails.




Possibly, when I was young all the gang bangers smoked pot.


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19271114 - 12/13/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss thanks to the based god!

I cant wait for this to pass.

I sware i will smoke weed while doing everything.
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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: GodSpores]
    #19271123 - 12/13/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Blow smoke at all the asians in college


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: Konyap]
    #19271124 - 12/13/13 02:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The darkies blow back:lol:


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: Konyap]
    #19271154 - 12/13/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The thing is we don't need legal pot AT ALL

we need less house raids and racist cop a feel tactics by the police





The two are not related. You can be against stop and frisk and for legal weed too. I support the whole drug war ending and everything being legal, that will stop the raids.


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: Konyap]
    #19271161 - 12/13/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

As a Canadian living 5 minutes from the New York border I will be supremely jealous if this happens. Pot laws just keep getting harsher and more ridiculous here in the great white north. FUCK YOU STEPHEN HARPER! It seems every other day you lucky bastard americans have a new state to go smoke legally in while our retarded government just keeps bending us over! God I hate the fucking conservatives..


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: Zombi3]
    #19271726 - 12/13/13 05:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

it's been decriminalized since the 70's but mayor guiliani made it so if you pull it out in public its a crime so a dickhead cop pulling out a bag out of your pocket is a crime lol

the more i think about it the more i think it's just a headline for "librel" media to roll at the bottom as some sort of joke

with all the foreigners, the UN, and 9/11 crap...


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: Konyap]
    #19271737 - 12/13/13 05:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

look at statistic we do the most percentage of pot arrest and they are always black people
we fear putting cops with high IQ's in the force because we think they will quit
black people getting beat and shot in their houses

cops love pot here because then they can do all sorts of questioning and feels
they put people IN JAIL here to see if anything falls through


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: Konyap]
    #19271746 - 12/13/13 05:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

so many people here abuse painkillers too it's pathetic it's like a brochure they hand out at schools


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: Konyap]
    #19272376 - 12/13/13 08:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Wish Texas would consider legalizing, but that's probably a long time from now.


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: suniced]
    #19272447 - 12/13/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

As far as New York City goes, it's pretty darn easy to get herb... and it's been that way for as long as I can remember.

Not sure there would be too much difference.


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up]
    #19273023 - 12/13/13 11:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I cant imagine all the positive effects having marijuana legal for everyone would have/will have on my life. A few years ago i used to go over my buddies and his mother and father would fight and yell like a motherfuckerwhen they were drunk as fuck...if this was the future they might be happily stoned making food for us, offering herb and watching netflix. Some of my friends wouldnt use all these rc cannabinoids and shit because they cant smoke bud and would keep those brain cells.

Tons of people with horrible daily anxiety might have a good non physically addicting 'medicine' to have around. I just see so much positive that an come out of this and to me it would be seen most in the well-being of each individual you meet in your life. Instead of meeting an alcoholic or some suicidal heavy-set guy who's fed up with his job and marriage at say a new job, you might meet calmer more carefree people.

Kids might be raised better, less people will smoke instead of drink and their marriage might be saved, an overall people will live more enjoyable lives. I hope none of this sounds over the top but im really looking forward to many aspects of the future :wink:. This is even going to produce dumbb amounts of jobs :heart:. I just hope getting all this shit in place doesnt take fucking forever, i dont think it reallly will though


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: Jvells]
    #19273062 - 12/14/13 12:04 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well, they're confiscating guns, so I guess there has to be some effect...
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/11/robert-farago/begins-new-york-sending-gun-confiscation-notices/


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up]
    #19273496 - 12/14/13 05:18 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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ch1ck3n.s0up said:
As far as New York City goes, it's pretty darn easy to get herb... and it's been that way for as long as I can remember.

Not sure there would be too much difference.




I dont live in the US but here I can get herb on any street corner, in any college class etc.

I almost feel obligated to smoke it to get it legalized

although I value my mind too much for that, but it should still be legal

if I were to smoke I would only do it very rarely, the haze lasts a few days after smoking heavily one night
(sometimes weeks/months, Im done with weed, but fine with other people smoking it in moderation)

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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: Jvells]
    #19273503 - 12/14/13 05:28 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Jvells said:
I cant imagine all the positive effects having marijuana legal for everyone would have/will have on my life. A few years ago i used to go over my buddies and his mother and father would fight and yell like a motherfuckerwhen they were drunk as fuck...if this was the future they might be happily stoned making food for us, offering herb and watching netflix. Some of my friends wouldnt use all these rc cannabinoids and shit because they cant smoke bud and would keep those brain cells.

Tons of people with horrible daily anxiety might have a good non physically addicting 'medicine' to have around. I just see so much positive that an come out of this and to me it would be seen most in the well-being of each individual you meet in your life. Instead of meeting an alcoholic or some suicidal heavy-set guy who's fed up with his job and marriage at say a new job, you might meet calmer more carefree people.

Kids might be raised better, less people will smoke instead of drink and their marriage might be saved, an overall people will live more enjoyable lives. I hope none of this sounds over the top but im really looking forward to many aspects of the future :wink:. This is even going to produce dumbb amounts of jobs :heart:. I just hope getting all this shit in place doesnt take fucking forever, i dont think it reallly will though



Not to break your happy view on weed, but weed is the best way to get anxiety in my book

I had to stop due to anxiety it gave me, and I know a lot of people who dont smoke it anymore due to anxiety trips on it
old-time stoners

Would never use weed for anxiety, that would be the worst purpose of it I think

but if I was chronic pain patient and couldnt work, then maybe I would use weed

it really has no positives for me, disables my mind/parts of it, makes me less in control of my thoughts/actions

non-addicting is bullshit too

dont legalize MJ for medical benefits, legalize it for freedom


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: lessismore]
    #19273708 - 12/14/13 08:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah i get what your saying as i have some of those issues myself but the main thing is im not an alcoholic...which i might be if its all i could get my hands on. Its a non physically addicting alternative to the other shit out there you know. It mightt not work for a handful of people and thats fine...but there might be another handful of people it does dramatically help.

I dont recommend it to help with anxiety if you want to smoke it everyday, for anxiety relief maybe just keep it around for a bad day and toke up. Infrequent use doesnt lead to anxiety much at all for me. That usually ocurs when my tolerance is too high and all the magic isnt there. Just my speculations though. Oh and i wonder if there will be a bunch of high old people at the retirement homes and shit? Ahhahaah i think it sounds like a good idea...long as they vaporize or take edibles


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    #19274148 - 12/14/13 10:49 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Been smoking daily for awhile without any anxiety problems (have had some in the distant past)

I agree with mio though, marijuana should be legalized for freedoms sake. It has legitimate medical benefits and relatively benign negative side effects, that makes it useful but that's beside the point. There was never any reason to prohibit it in the first place and no one has the 'right' to prohibit any substance. The public is being strong armed and hardly does anything about it


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: Repertoire89]
    #19274647 - 12/14/13 12:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If the rest of NY has the same Nanny Statism as NYC I honestly don't see this happening.


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    #19275833 - 12/14/13 05:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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If the rest of NY has the same Nanny Statism as NYC I honestly don't see this happening.



The city is certainly a bit more lib and retarded than the rest of NY
I am very happy to be seeing Bloomberg go, that guy was a complete and total assface.


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: Absent Minded]
    #19277078 - 12/14/13 11:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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If the rest of NY has the same Nanny Statism as NYC I honestly don't see this happening.



The city is certainly a bit more lib and retarded than the rest of NY
I am very happy to be seeing Bloomberg go, that guy was a complete and total assface.



That depends entirely what you mean by more retarded than the rest of NY.  You are much better off getting arrested in NYC for a drug crime than anywhere else in NY.  NYs drug laws are fucked.


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: fapjack]
    #19277886 - 12/15/13 06:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah they're crazy

They're like well uh it says to put you in jail for a min of five but this is your second time having sex with a 17 year old so I'm just going to ask you not to do it again


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    #19278315 - 12/15/13 09:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Echro said:
If the rest of NY has the same Nanny Statism as NYC I honestly don't see this happening.



The city is certainly a bit more lib and retarded than the rest of NY
I am very happy to be seeing Bloomberg go, that guy was a complete and total assface.



That depends entirely what you mean by more retarded than the rest of NY.  You are much better off getting arrested in NYC for a drug crime than anywhere else in NY.  NYs drug laws are fucked.



No, I know that.
Honestly the whole East Coast needs some serious re-working of our laws. NJ is especially fucked as you well know. I'm gettin' sick of this shit:kingcrankey:

edit - you mean all drugs in general? Bc I know herb is decriminalized in NY. SO I can't see that being a problem no matter where you are in the state. My buddy goes to RIT and says it's pretty relaxed in terms of nug up there.


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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: Absent Minded]
    #19278340 - 12/15/13 09:25 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Marijuana is the exception, other drug laws there are even more strict than NJ.
www.suny.edu/sunypp/docs/208.doc


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    #19278359 - 12/15/13 09:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:eek::eek::eek::eek:
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Re: New York Could Be Third State To Legalize Pot [Re: Absent Minded]
    #19278643 - 12/15/13 10:31 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

it is not decriminalized lol

like i said earlier it was BUT mayor guliani made it criminal to brandish weed in public sometime ago

they hold people in jail especially blacks all the time, mostly in the city though


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