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magickspore



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Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted.
#19267367 - 12/12/13 07:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok so I'm thinking about getting an 8qt presto aluminum pressure cooker sent to my local WalMart for 33 and some change. So this is where you good people of the shroomery come in.
1. Do you do you think this is worth it. If No why? Aluminum won't last long, 8qts isn't big enough to accomplish a decent bulk grow, etc.
2. If you don't think this is worth it can you point me to a better deal. Amazon, someone willing to sell there's or w.e. For the better deal it has to be 60 or less including shipping. I need to have enough to order agar and get some glad containers. I suppose I should add this is mostly for sterilizing rye bags couple pounds here and there. Agar and anything else along those lines. I also would be happy if it lasted at least 6mo or around there.
So I wasn't sure if this should be in marketplace or here, so mods go ahead and throw it where it belongs thanks and my apologies if you have to move it.
Edited by magickspore (12/12/13 07:18 PM)
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: magickspore]
#19267389 - 12/12/13 07:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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good starter PC and good price. You wont regret it. It's going to last years if you don't beat the shit out of it or let it run dry
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: bodhisatta]
#19267409 - 12/12/13 07:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: cronicr]
#19267644 - 12/12/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The presto 23 quart is usually between $70 - 80 on Amazon, and you can get free shipping.
Just something to consider.
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: mycomattie]
#19267650 - 12/12/13 07:56 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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remember when using them to let the steam vent for a few bfore putting your weight on
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: mycomattie]
#19267674 - 12/12/13 08:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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just make sure its of good construction. i seen pressure cookers at walmart and some with more plastic parts then others. i have a 7qt fresco brand and it has never let me down. it takes a while to PC things for bulk but it gets the job done.
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: R0ughHab1tz]
#19267710 - 12/12/13 08:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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8q aluminum presto is pretty solidly built. For the change the 23Q is the better deal for sure. I got my 8q presto off craigslist for 20$
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: cronicr]
#19267740 - 12/12/13 08:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Do you cook? If not, you can stop reading here. If so, i'd like to suggest checking out this setup.
I have almost this exact set and it is the dog's bollocks. It's stainless, not aluminum. Personally, i would not cook something in an aluminum pot if i intended to eat it, especially acidic things like spaghetti sauce. Again, if you have no thought of using your PC for anything other than mycological endeavours, nevermind.
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: bodhisatta]
#19267771 - 12/12/13 08:13 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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If I had the extra money for sure would buy one of the 20+quarts off amazon for about $70. Unless you only intend on ever doing a couple quart jars at a time.
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: tga8706]
#19267866 - 12/12/13 08:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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No it's mostly just to get get a couple pounds of rye bags done, and I REALLY REALLY want to get into agar. So I figured I'd get this for now along with rye and agar supplies. With that set up I figured it would keep me busy for a couple months. I only have like 90 total so spending 80 and having no supplies doesn't really make sense to me. I'd rather get everything on a slightly smaller scale and get my feet wet so to speak and then just have the one small PC later for little jobs and the big one for my quart jars and bags. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't gonna wait 2 weeks and 30 bucks later and it breaks the first time I use it. I'd probably lose it.
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: magickspore]
#19267884 - 12/12/13 08:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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magickspore said: No it's mostly just to get get a couple pounds of rye bags done, and I REALLY REALLY want to get into agar. So I figured I'd get this for now along with rye and agar supplies. With that set up I figured it would keep me busy for a couple months. I only have like 90 total so spending 80 and having no supplies doesn't really make sense to me. I'd rather get everything on a slightly smaller scale and get my feet wet so to speak and then just have the one small PC later for little jobs and the big one for my quart jars and bags. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't gonna wait 2 weeks and 30 bucks later and it breaks the first time I use it. I'd probably lose it.
agar is good for any size grow. I don't grow for anyone but myself and occasionally my wife will join me so my 8q is perfect. Agar is still the best part of this hobby though,
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: bodhisatta]
#19267896 - 12/12/13 08:35 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Search craigslist and eBay. I picked up an All American 21 quart canner for 50 bucks. Works like a charm.
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: bodhisatta]
#19267918 - 12/12/13 08:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lol I agree although I haven't tried it yet. I'm just really intrigued by it and can't wait to get started but going site to store it can take up to 12/26 to get here where as I'm gonna have my agar supplies by Tues or wed.
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: bodhisatta]
#19267920 - 12/12/13 08:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have the 23 quart been running it for a little over 2 years. Only problem is the top ring needs replacing dew to it shrinking.
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: TheMustardTiger]
#19267930 - 12/12/13 08:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Buy at least a 23 qt pressure cooker. Resale value isn't much and the $10-15 extra you'll have to spend will be worth it.
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: magickspore]
#19267936 - 12/12/13 08:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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magickspore said: Lol I agree although I haven't tried it yet. I'm just really intrigued by it and can't wait to get started but going site to store it can take up to 12/26 to get here where as I'm gonna have my agar supplies by Tues or wed.
check craigslist I always see them on there. Just inspect the seals and everything make sure the trivet is still there too.
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: TiN 42]
#19267979 - 12/12/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well I understand I should get something bigger and if I could I would get a 23qt. I absolutely believe you get what you pay for when it comes to manufactured goods. So I was more worried about waiting for this cheap thing and then it falls apart when I take it out of the box or some shit ya know. Lol. As for eBay and Craigslist I'll take a look. I'm only on a phone and I live in bum fuck nowhere with a pos car so its usually worth it for me to pay alil extra to get it shipped as close as possible. In this case I get free shipping and free lesson in patience... Fml...
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: magickspore]
#19268011 - 12/12/13 08:57 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Subscribe to bed bath beyond email and text notices you'll get tons of free shipping and 20% off offers for the website (which brings their prices in line with amazon, they aren't cheap). 23q presto is great but do what you gotta do for now.....you'll probably pay as much in electricity as you think you're saving in 3 months if you're serious about bulk grows. Good luck!
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: magickspore]
#19268029 - 12/12/13 09:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah the waiting sucks but sounds like you should be happy with 8 quart. They should last quite awhile as long as you don't run them dry which is hard to do unless you don't know how to properly use one. I too have a very very tight budget but luckily I already had a pressure cooker, unfortunately mine only runs at 10 psi.
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: tga8706]
#19268139 - 12/12/13 09:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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you'll probably pay as much in electricity as you think you're saving in 3 months if you're serious about bulk grows. Good luck!
XD Not likely up until a few days ago I had 2 hobbies at the same time. Replicating 2 spectrums of light over multiple areas vs 1 spectrum in a significantly smaller area is alot cheaper.
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tga8706 said: Yeah the waiting sucks but sounds like you should be happy with 8 quart. They should last quite awhile as long as you don't run them dry which is hard to do unless you don't know how to properly use one. I too have a very very tight budget but luckily I already had a pressure cooker, unfortunately mine only runs at 10 psi.
That's what I've been wanting to hear and I've heard it a couple times so yea I'm good if I decide to go that way. That's not that bad could be worse I hope this 1 goes up to 10-15. I should probably look into that.
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: magickspore]
#19268150 - 12/12/13 09:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: tga8706]
#19268196 - 12/12/13 09:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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An 8 qt PC is gonna hold just a few pints max. Trust me, get the 23 qt. Be patient and save however long you have to to get the right stuff.
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: bodhisatta]
#19268272 - 12/12/13 09:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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bodhisatta said: good starter PC and good price. You wont regret it. It's going to last years if you don't beat the shit out of it or let it run dry
I agree. although honestly I would recommend that if you're going to get a pressure cooker, spend the $ for at least a 16qt. I did, and am quite happy with the quart jar capacity. fits a ton of BRF jars, and gives a pretty decent capacity for getting started with anything with quart jars... mostly been pasteurizing quart jars of bulk substrate, but really looking forward to getting into doing grains for my second grow, so personally I think 16qt is the most versatile and worth the money if you're going to get a PC for anything. hell, a 22qt (23? haha) wouldn't be much worse, not terribly expensive either. only my opinion though, go for whatever you want
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: 36fuckin5]
#19268321 - 12/12/13 10:10 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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An 8 quart will atleast do 2 quart size jars, which used to spawn bulk will produce more then enough for 1 person to trip often. Even several 1/2 pint jars will produce plenty. He's not looking to do several monotubs. Hell you could sterilize 2 quarts a day for 7 days and have enough for 2 monotubs and a single monotub done properly can easily produce several Ozs.
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: westthebest]
#19268327 - 12/12/13 10:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I bought the 23quart presto and love it, I would wait until you have the money for that I paid 75 bucks for mine off of amazon!
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: tga8706]
#19268365 - 12/12/13 10:18 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I guess if you want to noc 2 quarts a day for a week, sterile procedure daily, electricity to run a PC for 4 hours every day (not counting the grain prep time), time, blech!! I'd say save up another $50 and do it right. The timelines for that method will kill your enthusiasm quickly I think. If you really have that much time on your hands your gonna be watching those jars (all on a different timeline) incessantly.........
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: SynKyd]
#19268391 - 12/12/13 10:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yea like I said it was 90% so I could get into agar. Someone pm me offering to try and work something out for his 23qt. So I'll see what happens with that first.
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: SynKyd]
#19268414 - 12/12/13 10:29 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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That was just an extreme example but you could do 2 quarts every weekend and have a good rotation. Once they start fruiting you can keep it going. Could have a nice harvest every week. Op said he was only looking to do a couple lbs of rye not everybody is looking to produce way more then they can consume and me personally I'm lucky if I have $15 every 2 weeks to spare for this hobby say I can sympathize with him.
You can do plenty of agar in any size PC. Just gotta focus on your sterile techniques when pouring and what not.
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: tga8706]
#19268436 - 12/12/13 10:33 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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2 quarts isn't shit. You could do 3 batches of 2 quarts or you could do one batch of 5-7 quarts. On a small scale, that's 2 masters and a tub in one shot.
It's seriously just a waste of time to buy a PC that won't at least do enough jars for one tub. Like I sais, if cost is an issue, save $10 per week for however long it takes.
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: 36fuckin5]
#19268477 - 12/12/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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How many shrooms do you think he needs? Even if he gets just a single one oz harvest thats enough to take a 5 gram dose every week for 5 weeks plenty of time to grow another oz with minimal effort!
Please get off your high horse 36
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: mycomattie]
#19268507 - 12/12/13 10:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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mycomattie said: The presto 23 quart is usually between $70 - 80 on Amazon, and you can get free shipping.
Just something to consider.
thats a pretty tiny pc, its all about how much you wanna grow. its a good starter pc i guess and later you can get bigger one and use that for agar and sterilizing equipment etc
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: tga8706]
#19268809 - 12/13/13 12:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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tga8706 said: How many shrooms do you think he needs? Even if he gets just a single one oz harvest thats enough to take a 5 gram dose every week for 5 weeks plenty of time to grow another oz with minimal effort!
Please get off your high horse 36
I've been known to eat an oz at a time on occasion. It's not that uncommon.
Get off your big wheel till you know how to give advice that makes things more efficient.
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: 36fuckin5]
#19269799 - 12/13/13 08:41 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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36fuckin5 said: An 8 qt PC is gonna hold just a few pints max. Trust me, get the 23 qt. Be patient and save however long you have to to get the right stuff.
my friends 8q only holds to laying down side by side. Mine fits 4 standing up. Hopefully you get the one that fits 4 standing up.
Either way two quarts is plenty for a small time grower. You could take 1 quart spawn and then 2 quarts of substrate mix it into a 6q plastic shoe box and fruit it for ~1oz dry give of take and genetics. So those two quarts would make two bricks. Alternatively you could do 2q spawn and 2q substrate and only make one brick.
my 8q is stall and skinny the lid is domed so the quart jars fit just barely all 4 of them
the 8q my friend has the quart jars won't stand up in so only two can go in on their sides.
Mine looks sort of like this
his looks like this but way way older
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: twistedty]
#19269897 - 12/13/13 09:16 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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mycomattie said: The presto 23 quart is usually between $70 - 80 on Amazon, and you can get free shipping.
Just something to consider.
thats a pretty tiny pc, its all about how much you wanna grow. its a good starter pc i guess and later you can get bigger one and use that for agar and sterilizing equipment etc
A 23 q Presto PC is a much wiser investment for a new grower, than the 8 quart the OP mentioned purchasing - and for not much more $$; while offering enough room to grow with the hobby, if the OP finds he actually likes it.
Sure, it's not a $600 All American, but that's a big unnecessary for expense for most home growers.
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: mycomattie]
#19269927 - 12/13/13 09:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I wouldn't want a 23Q PC and i've been doing this for a while now. Can't foresee ever needing to do more than 4 quart jars at a time and even then sometimes I only run my PC with two quarts in it.
It really depends on what you're going for. I'm happy having a small PC that I can throw in a cupboard
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: bodhisatta]
#19269963 - 12/13/13 09:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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True - ultimately it's up to personal preference.
I found a very lightly 23 quart PC on Craigslist for $30 - he even through in a case of quart jars and tons of lids. Ironically, he admitted he only used it to "grow mushrooms."
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: mycomattie]
#19269988 - 12/13/13 09:47 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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mycomattie said: True - ultimately it's up to personal preference.
I found a very lightly 23 quart PC on Craigslist for $30 - he even through in a case of quart jars and tons of lids. Ironically, he admitted he only used it to "grow mushrooms."
nice. I paid 20 for my 8 quart and nothing came included. Lady said she used it for pot roast and she was looking OLD like already crumbling and turning back into earth old.
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: tga8706]
#19270110 - 12/13/13 10:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I am very glad that I have a 16qt. Will hold a total of 7 standard sized quarts. This is one tub + 2 master jars.
OR: It holds 8x Pint-and-a-half widemouth or: 24x 1/2 pint (TWO CASES)
The cost was around the $75 mark via local sale, but it is a vintage yellow presto. It is well worth waiting and saving because after about 2 months of using a smaller model, you will have wasted more than the difference in electricity. I never EVER use everything out of it at once and at times some stuff sits for months. Out of the PC and into a storage box. I run mixed bag sessions. Part is agar, part is a jar with foil squares, a jar with a few qtips etc. When you look at it from that perspective, you realize how efficient having that space is. I call it my "Jr. Science Lab".
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tga8706 said: Even if he gets just a single one oz harvest....
Also this:
A single grain quart mini-mono MS can 3-flush over an oz easily.
The best way to recommend a size is to outline the pitfalls of the smaller vs the larger, but that the smaller will use a bit less electric. Smaller ones have less water in them.....However you approach this hobby there is a cooker that is sized just right!
Id never go below a 16qt.
There are so many uses for a PC in this hobby that having a large one is an investment in the future education.
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Lol thank you everyone for the advice and just to settle some arguments from above. Right now my set-up has 6lbs of pre sterilized rye colonizing. So that 8qt WOULD have been a down grade yes, but as I said I was mostly looking for a quick way to get started with agar.
I found someone willing to make a deal for a 23qt so I lucked out and am able to get that.
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Re: Pressure Cooker advice and wisdom wanted. [Re: magickspore]
#19273916 - 12/14/13 09:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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magickspore said: Lol thank you everyone for the advice and just to settle some arguments from above. Right now my set-up has 6lbs of pre sterilized rye colonizing. So that 8qt WOULD have been a down grade yes, but as I said I was mostly looking for a quick way to get started with agar.
I found someone willing to make a deal for a 23qt so I lucked out and am able to get that.
perfect, agar is the right attitude as well. i have pumped out alot of fruits with my presto 23
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