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Gas Exchange question
#19265449 - 12/12/13 11:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have recently turned my pktek jars upside down bc of poor gas exchange. The mycilium started to speed up but is starting to slow back down. Should i keep them upside down or should i turn them back around? Will constantly flipping the jars harm them?
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cronicr



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Re: Gas Exchange question [Re: TraxSeos]
#19265455 - 12/12/13 12:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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leave them, yes flipping them back n forth can cause issues. one of which is your verm barrier being shuffled around
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Re: Gas Exchange question [Re: cronicr]
#19265472 - 12/12/13 12:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Pics? When I did pf jars I just had my 4 innoc holes on the lid, made with a nail...dry verm layer for a filter and I never had GE problems. Are they in a warm place? If under 70 they can take a bit longer but 65-80 will work fine.
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Re: Gas Exchange question [Re: KnownPown]
#19265479 - 12/12/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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i'm guessing pints or regular mouth halfs
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Re: Gas Exchange question [Re: cronicr]
#19265516 - 12/12/13 12:16 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I dont have any pics of them upside down.

Thats the myc before flipping, its grown about an inch outwards but has slowed. The thermostat is on the fritz so temps throughout the day can go anywhere from 50-75. I do however, have a cable box inside the tub they are in, giving off a bit of heat.
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Re: Gas Exchange question [Re: cronicr]
#19265527 - 12/12/13 12:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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cronicr said: i'm guessing pints or regular mouth halfs
 there stalling due to gravity not ge, it draws moisture to the bottom of your cake compacting your sub and making it hard for the myc to colonize
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Re: Gas Exchange question [Re: cronicr]
#19265539 - 12/12/13 12:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Any advice on how to help it?
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Re: Gas Exchange question [Re: TraxSeos]
#19265540 - 12/12/13 12:22 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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if it's upside down just leave it and let it finish
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Re: Gas Exchange question [Re: TraxSeos]
#19265549 - 12/12/13 12:25 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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The only other things I can think of to make them stall out are either too hot of heat which doesnt happen til you get up there in temps...or your mixture could be packed down/not mixed enough. But if you're confident in all that then it should grow out just fine.
The shorter fatter half pints work better for pf tek because myc grows in a spherical way it could look like its stopped on the outer portions when really its colonizing the middle aswell, and just hasnt reached the bottom yet.
I say just give it more time!
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Re: Gas Exchange question [Re: KnownPown]
#19265581 - 12/12/13 12:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I appreciate all replies, im confident that the jars will eventually finish. But its been close to a month w/ only around 75% complete. I bought the jars pre-sterilized from everythingmushrooms. If the substrate is fucked up its on their part. I did however, make a few jars on my own a few days ago, substituting brf w/ whole wheat flour. I also dont have a PC so im steaming them in boiling water to sterilize on 3 consecutive days, for 20 mins. I am actively asking friends to borrow pressure cookers tho so i hope soon i can get a hold of one for a day and do it right.
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Re: Gas Exchange question [Re: TraxSeos]
#19265590 - 12/12/13 12:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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just do one steam session for 90 minutes, and use widemouth half pints. i fucking hate seeing companys selling the wrong jars
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Re: Gas Exchange question [Re: cronicr]
#19265608 - 12/12/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for the advice, i will change it up next time around and get wide mouth's
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