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LittleDaddy



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Homosexuality 1
#19263872 - 12/12/13 12:52 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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young children are channels of their parents' opinions.
Aside from that, I see no basis for the argument against homosexuality. I was recently involved in a discussion with a Christian friend of mine and he said that he views homosexuality as a sin. He said we all have sins and that homosexuals do legitimately have feelings for other guys. I told him that most humans have an innate desire to pursue a significant other, so why can't homosexuals pursue a mate? He said that it's a sin and everyone has to fend off desires, so they should, too even if that means not experiencing love. He then began discussing how a pastor he knows is homosexual and lives on his own because it is against his belief to live with a woman and he can't live with a guy. He is a glutton because of it.
This spoke volumes to me. Mainly that love is something very strong that is embedded in us (yes, you can probably overcome it, but it seems like a very strong natural tendency) and that my friend is just flat out wrong. Everyone has a right to feel this feeling. There's no argument that logically and ethically supports why homosexuals should be discriminated against.
Sure, they can't produce babies, but they can adopt and there are plenty of heterosexuals who choose not to have kids.
Anyways, I want some conversation on this topic - I've read older posts, but I want to hear opinions. Religious perspectives would be cool. I'd like to hear another "true Christian's" opinion on it.
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Edited by LittleDaddy (12/12/13 01:00 AM)
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What gets me is when people who aren't gay say that it's a choice. How the fuck would they know when they're not gay? Are they saying they themselves have homosexual tendencies but they CHOOSE to be straight?
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Re: Homosexuality [Re: schwarg] 1
#19263948 - 12/12/13 01:18 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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How is this still a debate we even need to have.... It would be nice if we just moved past this.
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Quote:
The Vapor said: How is this still a debate we even need to have.... It would be nice if we just moved past this.
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The Vapor said: How is this still a debate we even need to have.... It would be nice if we just moved past this.
It totally would, but go talk to some children about things that they don't like. They may not say it around you, but they all know that the word gay means the same thing as the word bad.
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God makes gay people gay. You shouldnt confuse gay porn with gay love, just like you shouldnt confuse straight porn with straight love. Love is Love, it is pure.
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Re: Homosexuality [Re: Asante] 2
#19264330 - 12/12/13 05:07 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pretty sure "god" could give two shits if you are gay or not.
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Asante
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Depends on your definition. To me God is the universe, and the totality of the laws govening the universe worked in unison to make him gay, just like they do to make everything that is, be.
Cause and effect rules all, if somehing that is, wasn't, no matter how minute it seems, the entire universe is out of balance. Everything in this second is provided by the second before and this second too predestines everything that comes in the second after.
Whether you say the Universe enforces it or its God's Will, same thing. The fate of the entire universe rests on even the tiniest and seemingly most insignificant thing.
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Re: Homosexuality [Re: Asante] 2
#19264393 - 12/12/13 05:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: God makes gay people gay.
Nope, shrooms make you gay.
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Re: Homosexuality [Re: healing]
#19264401 - 12/12/13 05:33 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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healing said:
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The Vapor said: How is this still a debate we even need to have.... It would be nice if we just moved past this.
It totally would, but go talk to some children about things that they don't like. They may not say it around you, but they all know that the word gay means the same thing as the word bad.
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Asante
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God made shrooms to bring out the gay in people.
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lets_drive_around said: Pretty sure "god" could give two shits if you are gay or not.
If there is a god, I'm pretty sure he could give two shits less about humanity.
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Re: Homosexuality [Re: fapjack]
#19264726 - 12/12/13 08:15 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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That video was so emotional. I had to share it with all my friends.
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It's sad that in a supposedly progressive society which celebrates diversity there's still institutionalised discrimination around the world. Equality shouldn't be a controversial subject.
It seems that things are only going backwards, from Russia's new laws against gay propaganda to India recently repealing the decriminalisation of homosexuality. Just today Australia's first same-sex marriage laws were overturned a week into their existence.
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Re: Homosexuality [Re: TimmiT]
#19264905 - 12/12/13 09:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Even in the US, still, if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time things can get bad.
Oh also we can't get marrired... minor detail.
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Re: Homosexuality [Re: st1llnox]
#19264937 - 12/12/13 09:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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st1llnox said: Even in the US, still, if you're in the wrong place at the wrong time things can get bad.
Oh also we can't get marrired... minor detail. 
Not if your partner is in the hospital.
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Re: Homosexuality [Re: healing]
#19264945 - 12/12/13 09:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If your partners in the hospital, in most cases you're legally considered a complete stranger even if you live together and are raising a family. You'll likely be unable to have a say in their care and may even be denied the right to see them.
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Re: Homosexuality [Re: st1llnox] 1
#19264987 - 12/12/13 09:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm glad most all of us have reached the same conclusion.
If we keep pushing for it, it'll become more of a norm. Equality, as stated before, shouldn't be a question at all. If only this world could be ruled on only the law of ethics.
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I just wanna hug this whole thread
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Re: Homosexuality [Re: st1llnox] 1
#19265277 - 12/12/13 11:14 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Discriminating against people because they are gay is just as stupid as racism. Oops! I said the "r" word and jacked the thread.
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