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Taking Acid while depressed/suicidal.
    #19263775 - 12/12/13 12:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Hello everyone.

After few LSD trips in past I am preparing for one more.
Wanted to ask if anyone with suicidal thoughts have done it? I know that such a dark thoughts can throw one into pretty dark/bad trip (which in my opinion is not that bad, just harder to go through). OTOH, if one is about to end his life, there is nothing much to lose. I already had one acid trip with really low dose (like 1/4th of tab that is advertised as 225u, but I am sensitive to LSD) while living with these thoughts. I tried not to think about it while tripping, but I understood I should let it go, so I kind of confronted myself and had a conversation with myself, in which I told myself that choice is choice, and if I decide it, nothing can stop me. Also I remember this one moment where "my soul(?)" told: "It's hard to have a body".
Anyway, later today I am doing 225u (can't be sure, but I believe it should be around that) trip, and most likely will update this thread with report.
It would be nice if anyone with similar experience could add something to this topic.
Thanks. :smile:


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Re: Taking Acid while depressed/suicidal. [Re: VeryStrangeMan]
    #19263797 - 12/12/13 12:26 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Like you said, you're in a state with not much to lose. Most people will probably advise you to stay on the safe side regardless as there is of course plenty of potential for things to go 'bad' but I'm one for affirmative action. Go for it, search for answers and come back stronger.


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Re: Taking Acid while depressed/suicidal. [Re: BirdsIView]
    #19263830 - 12/12/13 12:34 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Exactly. :smile:
Last night I couldn't sleep, was over-thinking stuff, then I thought..man, I am going on a trip with Lucy tomorrow, so maybe that will change things enough for me, so let's think about bad stuff the day after. :smile:


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Re: Taking Acid while depressed/suicidal. [Re: VeryStrangeMan]
    #19263843 - 12/12/13 12:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've done it just being bored and it was the best experience. I wasn;t suicidal or depressed but I wasn;t in a jolly mindstate


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Re: Taking Acid while depressed/suicidal. [Re: theRAPeutic]
    #19263943 - 12/12/13 01:17 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I have to add to this post, growing up I ate acid all the time, why idk because I always thought of death and people around me dying, I very seldom had good trips, but all my friends did it and it was cheap.
I am in my mid 30s now and, now you all are going to think I am crazy, but I think the Indians may have been right, you do get visions of the future, well it prob. Was more coincidence then anything else but I have to tell you all this, by the time I was twenty I had lost 2best friends, and by the time I was 29 I lost my wife!
I know the Indians weren't eating acid but I got the same feeling off of mushrooms, and guess what a few months ago I decided to eat some mushies by myself(beleive me I was scared but had heard of people using mm for depression)
and all of those thoughts did not appear, I actually enjoyed the fuck out of it! So take it with a grain of salt but it has been 7 years since she passed and this is the ONLY thing that has helped me come to grips with her loss!
Maybe this will pull you out of it as it did me! Then again maybe not I don't want to be responsible if you do do something stupid, I am just relaying my exp.


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Re: Taking Acid while depressed/suicidal. [Re: Imperfect Iam]
    #19263983 - 12/12/13 01:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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cc1 said:
I have to add to this post, growing up I ate acid all the time, why idk because I always thought of death and people around me dying, I very seldom had good trips, but all my friends did it and it was cheap.
I am in my mid 30s now and, now you all are going to think I am crazy, but I think the Indians may have been right, you do get visions of the future, well it prob. Was more coincidence then anything else but I have to tell you all this, by the time I was twenty I had lost 2best friends, and by the time I was 29 I lost my wife!
I know the Indians weren't eating acid but I got the same feeling off of mushrooms, and guess what a few months ago I decided to eat some mushies by myself(beleive me I was scared but had heard of people using mm for depression)
and all of those thoughts did not appear, I actually enjoyed the fuck out of it! So take it with a grain of salt but it has been 7 years since she passed and this is the ONLY thing that has helped me come to grips with her loss!
Maybe this will pull you out of it as it did me! Then again maybe not I don't want to be responsible if you do do something stupid, I am just relaying my exp.




Oh, man, I am really sorry for your loss. I am glad you got through it. When I was like 4 I woke up in middle of night, told - "Infinity is a number known only by dead" and passed out, scared the hell out of mom. Now that you say, yeah, I've been into dark stuff since like 14, saw a vision of my funeral and things like that.
Thanks for sharing your story, and one more time, I express condolences to you.


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Re: Taking Acid while depressed/suicidal. [Re: Imperfect Iam]
    #19263997 - 12/12/13 01:32 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i think it would have a greater tendency to help you than hurt you...as someone who falls under dark suicidal thoughts more often than not these days, i think being sober is more dangerous.

and i totally agree that it is very difficult living in a body. i am 27 and have developed a serious physical condition that completely debilitates me. i could sit around and get spun all day if i wanted to, but i choose not to because i know it would be difficult not to focus on the physical pain, and the physical pain would distract me from the lsd experience.

i am waiting until my body is fully reconditioned before i take advantage of the privilege of being able to enjoy high mic'd squeaky clean LSD  :smile:


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Re: Taking Acid while depressed/suicidal. [Re: crispy86]
    #19264006 - 12/12/13 01:35 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

crispy86, thanks for your contribution to topic. I hope the day you are waiting for will come soon. Thanks, and good luck to you. :smile:


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Re: Taking Acid while depressed/suicidal. [Re: VeryStrangeMan]
    #19264028 - 12/12/13 01:40 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

My laptop's battery is about to die (broke, no electricity), so hopefully I will be able to update topic with my experience tomorrow. If I don't..well, good luck to you guys. I really like Shroomery forum, so much nice people and lots of info. Thanks to everyone.


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Re: Taking Acid while depressed/suicidal. [Re: VeryStrangeMan]
    #19264567 - 12/12/13 07:24 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Maybe you shouldn't do it alone, a good friend of mine committed suicide while he was on acid. Another friend of mine tried but luckily someone else went to check up on him and found him crying with his loaded gun out. Not trying to be a downer or anything, but it might be good to just stay away from guns and dangerous things in general. <3


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Re: Taking Acid while depressed/suicidal. [Re: fancy]
    #19264620 - 12/12/13 07:45 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Can't ignore the fact that psychedelics will amplify any pre-existing elements of your mind - i'd avoid psychs in such a mindstate.


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Re: Taking Acid while depressed/suicidal. [Re: Tombc1]
    #19264755 - 12/12/13 08:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Honestly, I would go to a hospital and tell them that you are having suicidal thoughts...they will be obliged to help you....never know, something might stick....remember always SUICIDE IS A PERMANENT SOLUTION TO A TEMPORARY PROBLEM.:sunny::peace:M


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Re: Taking Acid while depressed/suicidal. [Re: Thayendanegea] * 2
    #19265090 - 12/12/13 10:03 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

This is a tough one because trips can actually give you suicidal thoughts even if you don't have them sober/normally. I would suggest you become more active helping others, there are people out there that have it much worse than you or I. Helping others would be a positive experience for them and yourself. By helping others i'm not talking about family or friends either.

You can trip if you want to, but I don't think you're in the right frame of mind going into this trip. Mindfuck can leave one picking himself apart, it's happened to me many times (too many actually). Whatever you decide I hope you cheer up and start enjoying life again.

good vibes man :mushroom2:


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Re: Taking Acid while depressed/suicidal. [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #19265316 - 12/12/13 11:21 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I hope he comes back and posts again... :heart:


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Re: Taking Acid while depressed/suicidal. [Re: hmmn] * 1
    #19266312 - 12/12/13 03:13 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I took like 12 hits of bomb liquid the day after getting sent to a mental hospital for being suicidal.  I was gonna kill myself but I wanted one last good trip.  That trip saved my life...... It's a gamble, but it could go really well or really bad....


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Re: Taking Acid while depressed/suicidal. [Re: sanchothestoner] * 1
    #19266417 - 12/12/13 03:33 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I tend to get fucked up impulses to do stupid shit on LSD.  Doing it while suicidal would probably give me the balls to just up and off myself, so I personally thinks it's a terrible idea to ingest LSD when you know you're in a dark place, unless the goal is to give yourself the impetus to snuff it.  Also, I tend to be irritable and in a weird headspace the few days after an acid trip so adding that to depression would be a bad idea.   

If you want a transformative psychedelic experience while clinically depressed, take a heroic dose of psilocybin and lay alone in the dark in a safe room, by the time it hits you'll be so catatonic you wouldn't be able to off yourself even if you wanted to, and the resulting trip will likely make you reappraise your life and see the wonder again.  I always feel like a million bucks the next day after a shroom trip, even the worst "bad trip" reaffirms life and makes me want to be a better person.  YMMV. :shrug:


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Re: Taking Acid while depressed/suicidal. [Re: sanchothestoner]
    #19266425 - 12/12/13 03:35 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

So basically you wanna die and now you are worried about having a bad trip? I think you have bigger problems  :facepalm3:


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Re: Taking Acid while depressed/suicidal. [Re: VeryStrangeMan]
    #19266555 - 12/12/13 04:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I never know what to think when people tell me they are suicidal.

Is it a power pill, i.e. 'listen to me very closely because I have a hostage, I am ready to kill myself'

Holding people hostage sucks.
On the other hand my brother borrowed my old Cadillac and killed himself sitting in it while it was running in his garage.

some favor?

anyway, I vote no, don't take this sacrament while you indulge suicidal hostage bullshit.

I loved my brother, but I could not really trust him I guess. Maybe this is not about you.


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Re: Taking Acid while depressed/suicidal. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #19266820 - 12/12/13 05:08 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't understand how people can get to the point to off themselves on LSD.
Even if you're really depressed/suicidal..The chemical produces such a great physical feeling, it's hard to stay negative IMO..:shrug:

And mentally it seems a lot more clear-minded than mushrooms...I think you're gonna be fine op and this trip can transform the shittiness you feel.


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Re: Taking Acid while depressed/suicidal. [Re: cez] * 1
    #19266885 - 12/12/13 05:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't understand how people can get to the point to off themselves on LSD.
Even if you're really depressed/suicidal..The chemical produces such a great physical feeling, it's hard to stay negative IMO..:shrug:

And mentally it seems a lot more clear-minded than mushrooms...I think you're gonna be fine op and this trip can transform the shittiness you feel.




I agree. Cheer up and see the beauty of the natural world we live in. Acid can help.


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