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Re: How do I know if what I found is Methylamphetamine or Molly? [Re: lunarpiscean]
    #19267551 - 12/12/13 07:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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The possibilities are literally endless dude. It doesn't take a genius to know that fucking around with unknown chemicals is not safe, especially when it involves high temperatures. So if you are going to be stupid, you may as well try to be safe.
I mean the guy is interested in taking a substance he found in a trash can that he knows nothing about, so he needs to be as safe as possible if he's going to even attempt this "test". Unless of course he's aiming for a Darwin Award. If you wouldn't take all the necessary safety procedures you are risking injury and it's as simple as that.
It's common sense man.



What I'm describing is essentially a melting point analysis, which is a very established procedure used to help determine the identity of an unknown substance.

Meth.HCl does not decompose at it's melting point. MDMA.HCl does.


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Re: How do I know if what I found is Methylamphetamine or Molly? [Re: koods]
    #19267564 - 12/12/13 07:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I say just eat it and hope for the best.

Seems what all the cool kids are into.


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Re: How do I know if what I found is Methylamphetamine or Molly? [Re: Enjoywho]
    #19267573 - 12/12/13 07:42 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: How do I know if what I found is Methylamphetamine or Molly? [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #19267581 - 12/12/13 07:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Monorail? Disneyland? :strokebeard: I lost some acid there :facepalm:

I've lost little "button" bags with ~.3-5g of K and E before :shrug: But obviously, doing anything you find on the ground is incredibly sketchy, unless it's weed or a pressed E-pill at a show.

@Vaporization test
That would work great. Meth, as I'm sure you know, smokes/vaporizes very well. MDMA, on the other hand, is pretty much impossible to get a good hit due to how poorly it smokes, unfortunately :mad: :drooling:


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Re: How do I know if what I found is Methylamphetamine or Molly? [Re: pcplease]
    #19267598 - 12/12/13 07:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The police have good labs for testing stuff like that. Ask them.

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Monorail? Disneyland? :strokebeard: I lost some acid there :facepalm:

I've lost little "button" bags with ~.3-5g of K and E before :shrug: But obviously, doing anything you find on the ground is incredibly sketchy, unless it's weed or a pressed E-pill at a show.
pretty much impossible to get a good hit due to how poorly it smokes, unfortunately :mad: :drooling:




I dropped a baggie of MDMA powder on the ground while I was in the TSA line at the airport. :facepalm:


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Re: How do I know if what I found is Methylamphetamine or Molly? [Re: koods]
    #19267625 - 12/12/13 07:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:popcorn: I'm excited to see if he'll eat it. hahaha

One time one of my friends was like
"Hey bro, you want some molly?"
and had this little bag of white powder. This was back before I ever really tried anything other than weed and pain killers, so i was excited.

I had a lil' finger dip and my mouth went numb, and I'm like "Ay dude, what the fuck? Is this coke?" And he's like "Oh... it could be... idk i just found it at a rave..."
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Re: How do I know if what I found is Methylamphetamine or Molly? [Re: MrHill]
    #19267682 - 12/12/13 08:01 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

even finding weed on the ground is sketchy what if its wet...... i read a story on erowid of someone finding a joint on the ground and it was actually a wet joint (PCP) :lol:



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Re: How do I know if what I found is Methylamphetamine or Molly? [Re: koods]
    #19267688 - 12/12/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I know the method you are describing very well as I have used it before on specific drugs to determine the quality, the presence of other drugs, etc.
But we cannot be completely sure what it is and neither can he unless he gets an actual test kit. Even then it is still sketch as fuck. Now if you would trust your life to a substance you found in a trashcan that you believe you have identified through minimal testing, then I really do wish you the best of luck.


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Re: How do I know if what I found is Methylamphetamine or Molly? [Re: Cannabischarlie] * 1
    #19267720 - 12/12/13 08:06 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Rail that shit already OP :rail:

That's what I'd do.


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Re: How do I know if what I found is Methylamphetamine or Molly? [Re: Curt-vs-thepipe] * 1
    #19267751 - 12/12/13 08:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I don't know if a trash can is any less reliable than your average dealer.


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Re: How do I know if what I found is Methylamphetamine or Molly? [Re: koods]
    #19267760 - 12/12/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I dropped a baggie of MDMA powder on the ground while I was in the TSA line at the airport. :facepalm:




Shit :rofl: A few years back I went on a trip after recently moving. I was not nervous whatsoever, I was on benzos. So get up to the TSA line, my carry-on goes through, I walk through, and a lady immediately grabs my arm. Shit. I was led aside to a cubicle and told to sit down.
In an adjacent cubicle, I heard some kid around my age (early 20's) saying "I'm soooo sorry. I swear I didn't know that was with me. I have to make this flight."
I hear someone respond "Sorry, you won't be making this flight." Keep in mind I was in Arizona, any amount of weed or paraphernalia is a felony.
I'm sweating bullets. During my move, I transfered a lot of weed and pipes, grinders, some E, DMT, a few RC's.. probably more. I hurried and popped another xanax out of my wallet (I'm Rx'd them so they weren't a concern). After what seemed like a solid 10-15 minutes, a big guy walks over with my bag. He sets it down, and starts unzipping all the pocket.
It was just a goddamn fork! :facepalm: :facepalm3: :doublefacepalm:
All that stress, for something I really should have noticed when packing my carry-on.

I try to double-check when I fly now :tongue2:

@lunar
PCPs pretty uncommon, but that still happens (Especially around cities). What is more likely, if it was in fact pcp, was that it wasn't even weed, just parsley dipped in liquid pcp (Flake).


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Re: How do I know if what I found is Methylamphetamine or Molly? [Re: koods]
    #19267766 - 12/12/13 08:12 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

OP... Anything you'd like to have mentioned in your RIP thread?


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Re: How do I know if what I found is Methylamphetamine or Molly? [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #19267774 - 12/12/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

MDMA: 125mg of pure MDMA is over for me within 3hours. If it's meth you'll be feeling nit for 12ish hours.


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Re: How do I know if what I found is Methylamphetamine or Molly? [Re: koods]
    #19267780 - 12/12/13 08:14 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Well I wouldn't know because I don't exactly go around rummaging through trash cans. Lol


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Re: How do I know if what I found is Methylamphetamine or Molly? [Re: Cannabischarlie]
    #19268017 - 12/12/13 08:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Get some rats from the pet store and see how much it takes to kill them.

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Re: How do I know if what I found is Methylamphetamine or Molly? [Re: psi]
    #19268066 - 12/12/13 09:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Get some rats from the pet store and see how much it takes to kill them.

:havesomescience:




Last winter, we had a problem with rats digging tunnels under the deck. instead of being normal and buying some poison at Home Depot, I decided to lace buttered toast with sodium cyanide. (Tip: butter is slightly acidic, so don't put your face over the toast when you sprinkle cyanide on it, or you may just notice that you feel a little funky after breathing in a small amount of hydrogen cyanide) it is pretty amazing how hard it is to poison a rat. They seem to know something's up.

These rats were really pissing me off, and I was determined to see one die. Finally, one grabbed the piece of toast. About 30 seconds later, it burst out of the ground making a pretty horrible screeching noise. It bounced up and down for about ten more seconds, and then it was dead. I felt kinda guilty for wanting to see that.


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Re: How do I know if what I found is Methylamphetamine or Molly? [Re: MrHill]
    #19268826 - 12/13/13 12:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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:popcorn: I'm excited to see if he'll eat it. hahaha

One time one of my friends was like
"Hey bro, you want some molly?"
and had this little bag of white powder. This was back before I ever really tried anything other than weed and pain killers, so i was excited.

I had a lil' finger dip and my mouth went numb, and I'm like "Ay dude, what the fuck? Is this coke?" And he's like "Oh... it could be... idk i just found it at a rave..."
:awedisgust:




people are absent minded and retarded everywhere. "oh could be duuuude...."



I never said I was actually ever going to take this substance if I where to find out it was methylamphetamine, just wanted to know if it was. Maybe if I found a tweaker or occasional user preferably, I was asking my friend about someone we know who does it so I guess I could make money, :shrug:


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Re: How do I know if what I found is Methylamphetamine or Molly? [Re: abltsandwich]
    #19272048 - 12/13/13 06:51 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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abltsandwich said:
... so what was the orange octagon pill?  Sounds interesting.






FYI Suboxone are orange octagonal pills. 8mg of Buprenorphine would probably be enough to put an opiate intolerant person on their ass. However, they have a terrible oral bioavailability. Something like 10%. So if he didn't suck on it, he'd had to have sniffed it or stuck it up his ass to have any major effect...




@OP:  While MDPV is traditionally a fine white powder, a-pvp now also comes in crystalline form. This also vaporizes somewhat cleanly. Though mixing a tiny bit with baking soda and water would be one easy way to semi-verify this substance (or a couple of its relatives) upon mixing with bicarb and (a tiny bit of) water, it would turn yellow. Upon heating, the yellow would change to almost neon yellow and it would give off a very strong, synthetic cummy type smell. Really unique smell.


Methylone also comes as crystals. But that behaves similarly enough to MDMA (and with a slightly higher dose, to boot) that one wouldn't be a big concern.


There are, of course, other RCs that come in crystalline form... but those are probably the more common ones. Especially methylone.


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Re: How do I know if what I found is Methylamphetamine or Molly? [Re: CidneyIndole] * 1
    #19272163 - 12/13/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Cidneyindole reminded me of another way to confirm if your powder is MDx. If you heat an MDx salt to its decomposition point, the residue should glow green under UV/black light. You don't want to burn it, just heat it until it starts to turn from clear(ish) to yellow or red.

-->MDA.HCl

--> MDA.HCl after being heated to decomposition

--> same as above under black light.


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Re: How do I know if what I found is Methylamphetamine or Molly? [Re: koods]
    #19272273 - 12/13/13 08:08 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:thumbup:
How/why isn't this more commonly known! And it's only true for the MDA family? Not methamp or BK-MDMA?


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