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Pastywhyte
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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: SizlChest]
#19244371 - 12/08/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You want the top all white. When you see people fruiting and the top is not all white they either did not get full colonization or they are using a casing. With a casing you do not want it too get fully colonized, however you do not apply your casing until your colonization is complete anyway.
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SizlChest
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I followed the bucket tek, which, according to some replies, has a little outdated info, or just cubes don't need casing. The tek had me hold a bit of substrate back to put on the top layer. I'll wait until it's nice and white everywhere, then add another two days to put into fruiting.....maybe Thursday or Friday, even.
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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: SizlChest]
#19244405 - 12/08/13 10:49 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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That is about 70% colonized.
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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: SizlChest]
#19244562 - 12/08/13 11:28 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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5 more days
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Pastywhyte
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The last pic OP posted was not his, he took it from Tmethyls museum of horrors OP just wait until your top is all white, then fruit.
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Sizl, 100% colonization
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SizlChest
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What do you think? I am seeing pinning now, should I fruit?

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   "I always say the tea is like eating a burning tire covered in dog shit while someone steps on your nuts. Good luck!" "Hell, shrooms have blown up from under me and kicked my ass on 2 grams once." "I think ill eat some shrooms right about now, and ill continue to until it doesnt feel like the right thing to do."
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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: SizlChest]
#19274142 - 12/14/13 10:47 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah if its pinning then its ready, fruit it.
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SizlChest
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I think I didn't use enough spawn to make the sub truly all white. Maybe? When I spawn my wbs to bulk, I will be doing 50/50 spawn/sub so the process is always very fast and thorough.
So, I stuffed pillow stuffing in the bottom holes very tightly, and the top holes very loosely.
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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: SizlChest]
#19274230 - 12/14/13 11:08 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The sub will not necessarily be solid white. Sometimes certain genetics will only weakly colonize the sub. As long as its colonized then its good to go. At any rate if its pinning that means that all available nutes have been colonized and its ready.
Fruit it.
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Quote:
Pastywhyte said: The sub will not necessarily be solid white. Sometimes certain genetics will only weakly colonize the sub. As long as its colonized then its good to go. At any rate if its pinning that means that all available nutes have been colonized and its ready.
Fruit it.
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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: twistedty]
#19274726 - 12/14/13 01:17 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Plus you remember you did damions bucket tek wich uses more sub as a casing layer and it will go slower on that layer as I told you. This is what you get . The sub underneath has used up all its nutes and wants to fruit and top isnt colonised yet. That happens when you use nutritious material for a casing layer. As you are fruiting you will see more of that brown turn white but if you were to remove that top "casing" layer i bet you would see everything under it is 100%. Dont actually do it Im just sayin lol. Good pics so far man. Lookin forward to the flushes
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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: Valyr]
#19274914 - 12/14/13 02:11 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Valyr said: Plus you remember you did damions bucket tek wich uses more sub as a casing layer
No it doesn't......that is not a casing layer.....that is just a protective layer so that there are no exposed grains on top....which is totally unnecessary anyways.
A casing layer is usually applied after full colonization, and usually has little to no nutritional value, and is there to provide a better microclimate at substrate level and for moisture retention.
The top layer of bulk substrate applied at spawning is NOT a casing layer.
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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: PussyFart]
#19274927 - 12/14/13 02:14 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes I know this and I told him this in a earlier post in this thread. I was reminding him. And if you read damions tek he calls it a casing layer wich is why I put it up there and again in "'s. I know it isnt one. And I explained that to the op.
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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: Valyr]
#19275362 - 12/14/13 04:07 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Valyr said: Yes I know this and I told him this in a earlier post in this thread. I was reminding him. And if you read damions tek he calls it a casing layer wich is why I put it up there and again in "'s. I know it isnt one. And I explained that to the op.
its what you would call a psuedo casing layer, and it dries out and usually doesnt colonize evenly anyway.
trust me and hacker we used to swear by the bucket tek.
it will bite you in the ass eventually HARD
bucket tek is a 50/50 shot
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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: twistedty]
#19275577 - 12/14/13 04:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah, I will be pasteurizing my sub from now on, just to bring the odds into my favor.
-------------------- PrimalSoup's Tea Tek
   "I always say the tea is like eating a burning tire covered in dog shit while someone steps on your nuts. Good luck!" "Hell, shrooms have blown up from under me and kicked my ass on 2 grams once." "I think ill eat some shrooms right about now, and ill continue to until it doesnt feel like the right thing to do."
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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: SizlChest]
#19276308 - 12/14/13 07:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Can't wait to see how this grow turns out. Sending out good vibes to ya.
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loki44
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OP how deep is your substrate, you bttm holes on the sides arent supposed to be at surface level and they are a couple inches taller?
How long has it been colonizing after spawning to bulk of course?
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Re: Sizl's First Mono [Re: loki44]
#19277810 - 12/15/13 05:20 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The sub is between 3.5-4". I'm not sure what you're asking in the second question....I think I put the holes a bit too high for the bottom ones. They should be about an inch above the substrate level, correct?
Today will be 14 days....I put into fruiting conditions yesterday at day 13 of colonization....
-------------------- PrimalSoup's Tea Tek
   "I always say the tea is like eating a burning tire covered in dog shit while someone steps on your nuts. Good luck!" "Hell, shrooms have blown up from under me and kicked my ass on 2 grams once." "I think ill eat some shrooms right about now, and ill continue to until it doesnt feel like the right thing to do."
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