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Does cracked corn in WBS really cause the stickiness?
    #19263483 - 12/11/13 11:15 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I've always had an issue with my WBS being a little on the sticky side. Then I read someone saying they thought it was the corn in it that was causing this?

Thoughts or experience?


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Re: Does cracked corn in WBS really cause the stickiness? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #19263514 - 12/11/13 11:25 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

question 2: totally unrelated, but does anyone know what psil. galindoi mycelium looks like? Like obviously its white, but is it typically wispy like pan cyan mycelium?

Because SWIM has some jars and he can't tell if its wispy mycelium or strong cobweb mold.


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Re: Does cracked corn in WBS really cause the stickiness? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #19263517 - 12/11/13 11:26 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

just a question... do you rinse your grains before a soak? thats why my grains were sticky my first time.


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Re: Does cracked corn in WBS really cause the stickiness? [Re: silverstem]
    #19263524 - 12/11/13 11:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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just a question... do you rinse your grains before a soak? thats why my grains were sticky my first time.



I rinse the hell outta them. Even considering doing 2 shorter simmers (changing the water in between, because the heat makes it get hella nasty brown)

One thing that helped a lot was letting it dry for a lot longer after simmering, but it still is a tad sticky. I even use gypsum


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Re: Does cracked corn in WBS really cause the stickiness? [Re: silverstem]
    #19263526 - 12/11/13 11:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Cracked corn can be sticky.  I've used it alone as spawn.  It definitely shouldn't be boiled.  And it needs a thorough rinse after soak.  but wbs is usually sticky after soak anyway.  I always wash the hell out of it

don't look too hard at the cracked corn is all I'm saying ...


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Re: Does cracked corn in WBS really cause the stickiness? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #19263527 - 12/11/13 11:28 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah cracked corn is a mess, try to get your wbs without.


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Re: Does cracked corn in WBS really cause the stickiness? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #19263535 - 12/11/13 11:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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question 2: totally unrelated, but does anyone know what psil. galindoi mycelium looks like? Like obviously its white, but is it typically wispy like pan cyan mycelium?

Because SWIM has some jars and he can't tell if its wispy mycelium or strong cobweb mold.




I found this

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stonesun said:
Here ya go!





It can start extremely whispy, these plates are after
numerous transfers.




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Re: Does cracked corn in WBS really cause the stickiness? [Re: death2u]
    #19263537 - 12/11/13 11:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

Cracked corn is fine.  Don't worry about it too much.  Just rinse it


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Re: Does cracked corn in WBS really cause the stickiness? [Re: silverstem]
    #19263541 - 12/11/13 11:32 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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question 2: totally unrelated, but does anyone know what psil. galindoi mycelium looks like? Like obviously its white, but is it typically wispy like pan cyan mycelium?

Because SWIM has some jars and he can't tell if its wispy mycelium or strong cobweb mold.




I found this

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stonesun said:
Here ya go!





It can start extremely whispy, these plates are after
numerous transfers.






wow thank you so much! this eases my mind.

I'm leaning heavily towards mycelium now. which means i FINALLY GOT GALINDOI! WOOP WOOP


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Re: Does cracked corn in WBS really cause the stickiness? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #19263561 - 12/11/13 11:38 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

i gotta get my hands on a Galindoi print.. i heard it takes longer to colonize tho.


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Re: Does cracked corn in WBS really cause the stickiness? [Re: silverstem]
    #19263596 - 12/11/13 11:44 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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i gotta get my hands on a Galindoi print.. i heard it takes longer to colonize tho.



Really? never heard that, just that you need to let it sit longer after its colonized so the sclerotia fan form.

I'll try to remember to let you know how fast my jars get done.

Also heard letting it sit an extra month or two increases potency. but who knows if thats really true.


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Re: Does cracked corn in WBS really cause the stickiness? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #19263676 - 12/11/13 11:59 PM (10 years, 2 months ago)

you should soak your bird seed for at least 12 hours, and then bring to a boil.  as soon as it starts to boil dump it into collander and steam dry.

youre prolly overcooking your seed

they should roll around easily before the pc.  and just need a small shake after the pc


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Re: Does cracked corn in WBS really cause the stickiness? [Re: twistedty]
    #19263690 - 12/12/13 12:01 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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you should soak your bird seed for at least 12 hours, and then bring to a boil.  as soon as it starts to boil dump it into collander and steam dry.

youre prolly overcooking your seed

they should roll around easily before the pc.  and just need a small shake after the pc



yeah i do usually simmer my seed for at least 15 minutes.

I shall try a shorter cook with tomorrows batch!


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Re: Does cracked corn in WBS really cause the stickiness? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #19263713 - 12/12/13 12:06 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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you should soak your bird seed for at least 12 hours, and then bring to a boil.  as soon as it starts to boil dump it into collander and steam dry.

youre prolly overcooking your seed

they should roll around easily before the pc.  and just need a small shake after the pc



yeah i do usually simmer my seed for at least 15 minutes.

I shall try a shorter cook with tomorrows batch!




i cook on high heat until boil and then straight into the collander for few hours stirring occasionally to release steam which drys the grains.

give it a try and let me know what it looks like after it cools from the pc cycle, also soaking with gypsum doesnt hurt :wink:


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Re: Does cracked corn in WBS really cause the stickiness? [Re: twistedty]
    #19263733 - 12/12/13 12:10 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

I don't do the boil with wbs.  I just rinse thoroughly, soak for 24 hrs, then air dry.  Load and PC.

the boil thing is just to help the water evaporate off the outside of the wbs right? Its not for hydration...


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Re: Does cracked corn in WBS really cause the stickiness? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #19263783 - 12/12/13 12:22 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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question 2: totally unrelated, but does anyone know what psil. galindoi mycelium looks like? Like obviously its white, but is it typically wispy like pan cyan mycelium?

Because SWIM has some jars and he can't tell if its wispy mycelium or strong cobweb mold.


I'm still waiting for mine to germinate. How long did they take to germinate?


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Re: Does cracked corn in WBS really cause the stickiness? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #19263810 - 12/12/13 12:29 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I've always had an issue with my WBS being a little on the sticky side. Then I read someone saying they thought it was the corn in it that was causing this?

Thoughts or experience?


I'm not convinced it's the corn. When I lay out the WBS to dry on a garbage bag all the sticky seeds are small ones.


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Re: Does cracked corn in WBS really cause the stickiness? [Re: TheApprentice]
    #19263819 - 12/12/13 12:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: Does cracked corn in WBS really cause the stickiness? [Re: TheApprentice]
    #19263937 - 12/12/13 01:16 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't do the boil with wbs.  I just rinse thoroughly, soak for 24 hrs, then air dry.  Load and PC.

the boil thing is just to help the water evaporate off the outside of the wbs right? Its not for hydration...



It is mostly for hydration. according to RR I believe, its the best/easiest way to get the right moisture content.


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Re: Does cracked corn in WBS really cause the stickiness? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #19263986 - 12/12/13 01:31 AM (10 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't do the boil with wbs.  I just rinse thoroughly, soak for 24 hrs, then air dry.  Load and PC.

the boil thing is just to help the water evaporate off the outside of the wbs right? Its not for hydration...



It is mostly for hydration. according to RR I believe, its the best/easiest way to get the right moisture content.




correct you hydrate the inner grain with the boil.  the soak prevents burst grains by "softening" up the grain for the boil.

you arent cooking the birdseed your just heating it up so you can get a nice dry grain via steam.

trust me my wbs turns out perfect this way, no clumping what so ever.


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