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OfflineOliverJames
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Avoid Stim Comedowns
    #19262233 - 12/11/13 07:37 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

So I know its commonly talked about on here that Benzos, weed, ghb, alcohol, are all good when your coming down off a stimulant. Normally though, at least from what I've read, people comedown, start to feel shitty, and then they take something to rid themselves of that feeling.

My question is, lets say you take a large dose of some stimulant and you know its gonna last approximately 3 hours, at which point your gonna start to comedown real hard. If one was take a decent dose of some benzo at the 2.5 hour mark, would they essentially be able to avoid that shitty comedown feeling altogether?

Recently I've been combo'ing adderall with phenibut and I've noticed that if I take the phenibut about the same time I take the adderall, the phenibut starts to kick about a half hour before the adderall wears off and instead of feeling burnt out, I feel very blissful and relaxed. This is sort of annoying to do with phenibut though because of the unusually long onset time and the fact that phenibut leaves me feeling pretty hazy the next day if I take it very late at night.

Thoughts?


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Re: Avoid Stim Comedowns [Re: OliverJames]
    #19262281 - 12/11/13 07:43 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

short answer yes but don't get crazy :ifyoucanawe:


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Re: Avoid Stim Comedowns [Re: NWlight]
    #19262289 - 12/11/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

without the comedown what will you use to tell yourself that stimulants are bad for you


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Re: Avoid Stim Comedowns [Re: OliverJames]
    #19262294 - 12/11/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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OliverJames said:
So I know its commonly talked about on here that Benzos, weed, ghb, alcohol, are all good when your coming down off a stimulant. Normally though, at least from what I've read, people comedown, start to feel shitty, and then they take something to rid themselves of that feeling.

My question is, lets say you take a large dose of some stimulant and you know its gonna last approximately 3 hours, at which point your gonna start to comedown real hard. If one was take a decent dose of some benzo at the 2.5 hour mark, would they essentially be able to avoid that shitty comedown feeling altogether?

Recently I've been combo'ing adderall with phenibut and I've noticed that if I take the phenibut about the same time I take the adderall, the phenibut starts to kick about a half hour before the adderall wears off and instead of feeling burnt out, I feel very blissful and relaxed. This is sort of annoying to do with phenibut though because of the unusually long onset time and the fact that phenibut leaves me feeling pretty hazy the next day if I take it very late at night.

Thoughts?




Yes, benzos are a god send for amphetamine comedowns.


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Re: Avoid Stim Comedowns [Re: NWlight]
    #19262360 - 12/11/13 07:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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NWlight said:
short answer yes but don't get crazy :ifyoucanawe:





:lol: No worries, my stimulant use is very limited, I only take adderall once or twice a month, normally for extended study sessions although sometimes I'll go to concerts.

This was question was more directed towards the absolutely terrible comedown I get after rolling. Taking adderall is one thing, yea it leaves me slightly burntout and groggy but it doesn't leave me in a state of extreme anxiety and paranoia like rolling does. The problem is, I very much enjoy rolling, I keep it to 3 times a year because I know how terrible the comedown is for me.

In all honesty, I probably should just not roll at all, I think I've got either abnormally low serotonin levels or the production of serotonin in my brain is very unstable. I'm not depressed but I have bouts of irrational anxiety and paranoia that are difficult to control. While rolling, my anxiety is non-existent, but when I comedown, its indescribably bad. I should mention I always get methylone, I'd love to get my hands on MDMA but every damn sample I test turns yellow


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Re: Avoid Stim Comedowns [Re: OliverJames]
    #19262370 - 12/11/13 07:54 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

xanax bar when u first start coming down = fixed


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Re: Avoid Stim Comedowns [Re: NWlight]
    #19262377 - 12/11/13 07:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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NWlight said:
xanax bar when u first start coming down = fixed




This. Or Ativan. Or temazepam.

They are great delicious. Take one of each :feelspokeman:


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Re: Avoid Stim Comedowns [Re: OliverJames]
    #19262423 - 12/11/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If your benzo is active sublingually (under your tongue) as most are, the first rush of relaxation starts within a few minutes :thumbup:

The short-acting benzos like xanax, ativan, and temazepam (among others) are much more effective for this IMO


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Re: Avoid Stim Comedowns [Re: pcplease]
    #19262501 - 12/11/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Cool, thanks for the info guys. All I've got right now is eitzolam, gonna try to get my hands on some xanax before my next roll which will most likely be this month.


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Re: Avoid Stim Comedowns [Re: pcplease]
    #19262518 - 12/11/13 08:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I love stimulant comedowns. If they didn't exist, I would be hardcore addicted to stimulants.

On that note, Kratom goes decently well with stims and lessens the comedown (but doesn't entirely negate it)


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Re: Avoid Stim Comedowns [Re: NWlight]
    #19262529 - 12/11/13 08:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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NWlight said:
short answer yes but don't get crazy :ifyoucanawe:



Amp comedowns are there for a good reason. You can push it to the side for a while but gotta face the music eventually.


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Re: Avoid Stim Comedowns [Re: OliverJames]
    #19262584 - 12/11/13 08:31 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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OliverJames said:
Cool, thanks for the info guys. All I've got right now is eitzolam, gonna try to get my hands on some xanax before my next roll which will most likely be this month.





Etiz will work fine


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