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Cycnyg
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What do you guys think of my experience?
#19261888 - 12/11/13 06:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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I have been smoking weed for a little while now, but I haven't gotten fully stoned. (Like stoned out of my mind) So last Monday, a kid asked me to go blaze with him and other people at lunch. So we went to his house.
He had OG Kush and I had ak47. We put the ak47 aside and just used the OG. So we hot knifed then used a bong. I took the most hits out of everybody there, when lunch was over, I was walking to school but then I started to black-out, my entire body fell asleep, not just my hands or anything my entire body went numb. It was hard to keep my eyes open. My body was walking by itself almost, like I couldn't feel my legs moving as if I was watching myself walk without actually moving. I kept blacking out, I woke up laying down on the side walk, I got up, blacked out again and started to fall in the snow again and again.(It was like a drunk guy trying to walk) I wasn't scared because I knew it was only a drug, but the feeling all in my body was overwhelming. I ended up finding my way home 3 hours later.
Now here is my QUESTION to you guys. Today is Wednesday and I feel really really weird.
I have realllllly poor memory, I have a tingly feeling in my arms and hands that hurt and they feel hot almost. My tongue and fingers move by itself and they feel really tingly. When I move my hands and touch my face or legs I get really dizzy, and my eye lids shut. My jaw is always shut, I don't even notice it until i'm out of breathe.
Is this normal reactions to smoking weed? I had these reactions since two days ago and they aren't getting any better.
EDIT: I FORGOT A BIG THING. IT IS HARD TO HOLD THINGS IN MY HANDS, I DON'T KNOW HOW TIGHT I HAVE TO HOLD. Like say you have a pencil and you are writing, you don't know how tight you have to hold it so you tend to hold it really tight or too less and it falls
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: Cycnyg]
#19261899 - 12/11/13 06:40 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Whooah dude.. That's not normal. Go to a doctor.
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Fo sho. Sounds like a dream or something. Seek medical attention if it doesn't clear up stat.
Edit 1:You might want to stay away from the chemical in your sig. Just sayin. Keep it safe
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: Big_Dave]
#19261934 - 12/11/13 06:46 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for the feedback everyone, I forgot to mention I only get dizzy when I move my arms and walk. My head also twitches because of the tingly feelings in my hands and fingers
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And don't be afraid to be honest with the doctor about smoking pot or anything else you've done. Blacking out like that can be a sign of some VERY SERIOUS MEDICAL CONDITIONS. Please don't take this lightly, I've never known anyone to experience anything like this from smoking pot. Get yourself to a doctor as soon as you can. Don't try and wait it out. You need to get to the bottom of this.
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Dr. P. Silocybin said: And don't be afraid to be honest with the doctor about smoking pot or anything else you've done. Blacking out like that can be a sign of some VERY SERIOUS MEDICAL CONDITIONS. Please don't take this lightly, I've never known anyone to experience anything like this from smoking pot. Get yourself to a doctor as soon as you can. Don't try and wait it out. You need to get to the bottom of this.
When I was in emergency, the doctor was all like "I think it's the weed, you just don't know the feeling and you get scared. It's also because of your anxiety."
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it sounds like you are experiencing some kind of neural disorder and I would would speak to a different MD about this immediately.
Do not tell him about your marijuana use this time. it might have nothing to do with it.
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: NWlight]
#19261991 - 12/11/13 06:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sounds like a possible seizure, seek medical attention ASAP.
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: Cycnyg]
#19262006 - 12/11/13 06:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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so you did go to the emergency room? did they give you a brain scan or anything?
I can't imagine any doctor not checking for signs of neurological damage after hearing that you blacked out and multiple days latter are still suffering from a loss of motor control of your extremities. I don't mean to scare you, but maybe you should be a little scared. The symptoms you're describing sound like the symptoms related to strokes, aneurisms, and seizures.
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Dr. P. Silocybin said: so you did go to the emergency room? did they give you a brain scan or anything?
I can't imagine any doctor not checking for signs of neurological damage after hearing that you blacked out and multiple days latter are still suffering from a loss of motor control of your extremities. I don't mean to scare you, but maybe you should be a little scared. The symptoms you're describing sound like the symptoms related to strokes, aneurisms, and seizures.
They made me take a urine test, and before they were doing something to my chest like puting round shaped things and attaching wires, that's all I can remember sorry, i'm sure the doctor did other things, but not anything with the brain.
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: Cycnyg]
#19262032 - 12/11/13 07:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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They probably did an EKG.
have you experienced symptoms since then?
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: NWlight]
#19262041 - 12/11/13 07:05 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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NWlight said: They probably did an EKG.
have you experienced symptoms since then?
I have never had these symptoms in my life, it all started from the walk back after I smoked a shit ton of weed.
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: Cycnyg]
#19262072 - 12/11/13 07:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sounds like you smoked a shit load of spice IMO
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: illa]
#19262080 - 12/11/13 07:11 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Can you please show me a picture of spice? I think the kid put it in my bowl before i was gunna smoke it.
EDIT: I saw him put in something brown in the bowl, it looked really furry like a clump of hair. Do you think it was tobacco or something that could of cause it?
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: Cycnyg]
#19262103 - 12/11/13 07:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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My friend blacked out the one and only time we tried spice. This was before any of the news aboud kids dying came to light.
PLEASE DON'T EVER FUCK WITH SPICE, I'D RATHER YOU DO BLOW
spice looks like random plant matter, because that's what it is. Plant matter sprayed with unregulated chemicals that can FUCK. YOU. UP.
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: Cycnyg]
#19262113 - 12/11/13 07:17 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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wow sorry for that HUGE ASS PICTURE! LOL
He put something brown in the bowl? Possibilities coming to mind are: Spice, Hash, Tobacco, Shit weed.
The way you described your trip, it sounds like you did spice bro. It depends on the person how you react. Some people just get really high, others fucking lose it.
My friend literally lost consciousness in front us and fell into a puddle of car oil in a parking lot.. shit is fucked up.
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: illa]
#19262125 - 12/11/13 07:19 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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illa said: wow sorry for that HUGE ASS PICTURE! LOL
He put something brown in the bowl? Possibilities coming to mind are: Spice, Hash, Tobacco, Shit weed.
The way you described your trip, it sounds like you did spice bro. It depends on the person how you react. Some people just get really high, others fucking lose it.
My friend literally lost consciousness in front us and fell into a puddle of car oil in a parking lot.. shit is fucked up.
Thank you very much, you are 100% correct. I am certain it is spice. You sir deserve a hug or something :P
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: Cycnyg]
#19262157 - 12/11/13 07:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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fuck spice.
You should still get checked out by a good neurologist. Who knows that that shit did to your brain.
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: Cycnyg]
#19262188 - 12/11/13 07:32 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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You said you've never been stoned out of your mind...How long have you been smoking, how much do you usually smoke at a time, and how much of a tolerance do you have?
I think what might have happened to you was a combination of potent weed and low blood pressure. I've fainted/collapsed and have gone into mild convulsions a few times from cannabis. Cannabis dilates blood vessels, relaxes muscles, and can cause a quick drop in blood pressure, giving one a light headed/dizzy & dissociated feeling or even potentially causing one to faint. Those that already have relatively low blood pressure, or have other things in their system that can thin blood/drop blood pressure, are more prone to this happening of course.
Now as far as what you're experiencing the day after...that does seem a little peculiar. Sounds similar to what some people have experienced after having a seizure. Also similar to stories I've heard from people overdosing on the synthetic cannabinoids.
Maybe when you blacked out you hit you're head with out knowing (though I suppose with a good knock to the noggin' bad enough to cause damage, you'd feel it the day after). Or maybe this is some sort of underlying neurological thing, something that would have come up and happened regardless (eventually), you just so happened to be high when it happened .
I dunno man...Personally, I only go to the doctor/hospital in crucial situations, haven't been since I was a kid. Experiencing what you are the day after that happening, is right about the fine line where I'd start considering going.
Keep us posted, I'm curious if what you're experiencing persists, or what you find it out to be.

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Dr. P. Silocybin said: fuck spice.
You should still get checked out by a good neurologist. Who knows that that shit did to your brain.
I researched K2 Spice, it effects short-term memory, anxiety, bad cordination I HAVE ALL OF THOSE SYMPTOMS.
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: Cycnyg]
#19262202 - 12/11/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thank you very much, you are 100% correct. I am certain it is spice. You sir deserve a hug or something :P
no man, I wish I could give you a hug! hope you feel better soon bro, I have a feeling that you are in the clear now. Your motor functions might still be fucked up for a while, but I would say they should go away. If NOT, consult a doctor, and tell him you think you unintentionally smoked spice. He will have better advice than I.
edit: also, spice doesn't appear on UA's, which explains why your doc didn't find anything other than bud.
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: Cycnyg]
#19262292 - 12/11/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Cycnyg said: Can you please show me a picture of spice? I think the kid put it in my bowl before i was gunna smoke it.
EDIT: I saw him put in something brown in the bowl, it looked really furry like a clump of hair. Do you think it was tobacco or something that could of cause it?
Made my last post before seeing the mention of this....Tobacco can put one a bit sideways if enough is smoked, but it'd likely be very obvious in taste and harshness if it was tobacco, and you'd probably be vomiting and/or shitting you're pants as well.
It could have been spice, or some put in with the weed...like I said in my last post, what you described sounds similar to the stories of synthetic cannabinoid over doses.
What you experienced after smoking, blacking out and what not, doesn't seem like all that much of a worry in my opinion (putting my self in your shoes)...but what you are experiencing the day after, that I'd be a little concerned about .
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: openmind]
#19262424 - 12/11/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Lesson learned, don't smoke anything randomly put in a bowl. Sound like you might be your friends are probably assholes and who knows that they put in it. Could have been spice or salvia even
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: Magicman69]
#19262499 - 12/11/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just because we found the likely cause of your symptoms that doesn't lessen the seriousness of them. I mean what if the spice induced a stroke? wouldn't you want to know? I say you should still go to a doctor.
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Theres nothing wrong with synthetic cannabinoids. It induces the same effect as thc, its just alot of these synthetics are full agonists.. while thc is only a partial making the synthetics more potent. I smoked jwh(something) mixed with am2201 in a homemade batch for a year every single day, and have never noticed any negative effects (other than the same common effects of cannabis).
Anywho, the shit they sold in packs like that ARE extremely unhealthy. And I can see a hefty dose doing that to someone. But the lingering effects are unusual.
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LSDreams said: Theres nothing wrong with synthetic cannabinoids.....its just alot of these synthetics are full agonists while thc is only a partial making the synthetics more potent....
Agreed...
But...just to note...though THC is the primary psychoactive chemical in cannabis, there is a load of other cannabinoids and terepenes that have synergy together and balance things out. There are even cannabinoid antagoists in cannabis, just like kratom has opioid antagonists, many medicinal plants have the alkaloid profile tuned so that one alkaloids potential side effects are countered or balanced out from another. This is why there's more side effects when pharmaceutical companies try to isolate a chemical from a plant and turn it into a pill, versus taking the plant in whole form with the entire spectrum of chemicals the plant has to offer.
We know cannabis flowers as a whole are known to be rather "safe", but we don't know what THC alone (or syn cannabinoid equivalent) is like with no other cannabinoids taking action, especially in the long run of things. I can imagine it's relatively safe in moderation, but it is not something I'd personally use in the long run.
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: openmind]
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What about hash? Or vaporizing herb? Sure it's not 100% pure THC, but its a lot closer than combusted flower.
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: illa]
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I experienced the same thing for like two days after a high indulgence on green dragon. After about two days it seemed to have calmed right down. With in a week it was gone, except for paranoia anxiety attacks, but they onley lasted about a week more.
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: illa]
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illa said: What about hash? Or vaporizing herb? Sure it's not 100% pure THC, but its a lot closer than combusted flower.
Hash is the essence of the plant, not just THC, so you're still getting the entire spectrum of cananbinoids & terps even if the over all ratio of THC is a bit higher. I guess it would depend on what type of hash, and if it's hash extracted with a solvent it probably would depend on the solvent that's used, but most of the goods should be there.
Even more of the spectrum is obtained when vaporizing compared to smoking. Because with smoking, some of the cannabinoids and terepenes are broken down form the intense heat of combustion. With vaporizing one can control the temperature and slowly increase it to get all the oily goodness with out destroying any.
So hash and/or vaporizing is, of course, even mo' betta than smoking as far as obtaining what the plant has to offer...
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: openmind]
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illa said: What about hash? Or vaporizing herb? Sure it's not 100% pure THC, but its a lot closer than combusted flower.
Hash is the essence of the plant, not just THC, so you're still getting the entire spectrum of cananbinoids & terps even if the over all ratio of THC is a bit higher. I guess it would depend on what type of hash, and if it's hash extracted with a solvent it probably would depend on the solvent that's used, but most of the goods should be there.
Even more of the spectrum is obtained when vaporizing compared to smoking. Because with smoking, some of the cannabinoids and terepenes are broken down form the intense heat of combustion. With vaporizing one can control the temperature and slowly increase it to get all the oily goodness with out destroying any.
So hash and/or vaporizing is, of course, even mo' betta than smoking as far as obtaining what the plant has to offer...
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: illa]
#19268546 - 12/12/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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illa said: Sounds like you smoked a shit load of spice IMO
That was kinda what I was thinking.
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: nicechrisman]
#19276965 - 12/14/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks everyone who helped me out, i'm feeling a lot better now.
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: Cycnyg]
#19281622 - 12/15/13 10:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good to hear...
So did that tingle sensation and those other odd things subside and go away completely?
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: Cycnyg]
#19281860 - 12/15/13 11:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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OP for what it's worth I've had similar experiences twice both times I fainted and was pretty much paralyzed off of one hit of strong weed puking , cold sweats, face flushing. inability to speak. I just chalked it up to some kind of allergic reaction. Both times the weed was grown by someone I knew I could trust and no one else had any ill affects. Just a thought. Not to say that your re-action is the same but I do see similarities.
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: Cycnyg]
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i see your bad high report and raise you my bad high report from last year http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17406866
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