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Offlineilla
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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: Cycnyg]
    #19262202 - 12/11/13 07:34 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Thank you very much, you are 100% correct. I am certain it is spice. You sir deserve a hug or something :P




no man, I wish I could give you a hug! hope you feel better soon bro, I have a feeling that you are in the clear now. Your motor functions might still be fucked up for a while, but I would say they should go away. If NOT, consult a doctor, and tell him you think you unintentionally smoked spice. He will have better advice than I.



edit: also, spice doesn't appear on UA's, which explains why your doc didn't find anything other than bud.


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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: Cycnyg]
    #19262292 - 12/11/13 07:44 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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Cycnyg said:
Can you please show me a picture of spice? I think the kid put it in my bowl before i was gunna smoke it.


EDIT: I saw him put in something brown in the bowl, it looked really furry like a clump of hair. Do you think it was tobacco or something that could of cause it?





Made my last post before seeing the mention of this....Tobacco can put one a bit sideways if enough is smoked, but it'd likely be very obvious in taste and harshness if it was tobacco, and you'd probably be vomiting and/or shitting you're pants as well.


It could have been spice, or some put in with the weed...like I said in my last post, what you described sounds similar to the stories of synthetic cannabinoid over doses.



What you experienced after smoking, blacking out and what not, doesn't seem like all that much of a worry in my opinion (putting my self in your shoes)...but what you are experiencing the day after, that I'd be a little concerned about . 





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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: openmind]
    #19262424 - 12/11/13 08:02 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Lesson learned, don't smoke anything randomly put in a bowl. Sound like you might be :underage: your friends are probably assholes and who knows that they put in it. Could have been spice or salvia even


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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: Magicman69]
    #19262499 - 12/11/13 08:15 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Just because we found the likely cause of your symptoms that doesn't lessen the seriousness of them. I mean what if the spice induced a stroke? wouldn't you want to know? I say you should still go to a doctor.


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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: Dr. P. Silocybin]
    #19262870 - 12/11/13 09:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Theres nothing wrong with synthetic cannabinoids. It induces the same effect as thc, its just alot of these synthetics are full agonists.. while thc is only a partial making the synthetics more potent. I smoked jwh(something) mixed with am2201 in a homemade batch for a year every single day, and have never noticed any negative effects (other than the same common effects of cannabis).

Anywho, the shit they sold in packs like that ARE extremely unhealthy. And I can see a hefty dose doing that to someone. But the lingering effects are unusual.


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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: LSDreams] * 1
    #19263356 - 12/11/13 10:45 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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LSDreams said:
Theres nothing wrong with synthetic cannabinoids.....its just alot of these synthetics are full agonists while thc is only a partial making the synthetics more potent....





Agreed...




But...just to note...though THC is the primary psychoactive chemical in cannabis, there is a load of other cannabinoids and terepenes that have synergy together and balance things out. There are even cannabinoid antagoists in cannabis, just like kratom has opioid antagonists, many medicinal plants have the alkaloid profile tuned so that one alkaloids potential side effects are countered or balanced out from another. This is why there's more side effects when pharmaceutical companies try to isolate a chemical from a plant and turn it into a pill, versus taking the plant in whole form with the entire spectrum of chemicals the plant has to offer.

We know cannabis flowers as a whole are known to be rather "safe", but we don't know what THC alone (or syn cannabinoid equivalent) is like with no other cannabinoids taking action, especially in the long run of things. I can imagine it's relatively safe in moderation, but it is not something I'd personally use in the long run.





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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: openmind]
    #19263533 - 12/11/13 11:30 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

What about hash? Or vaporizing herb? Sure it's not 100% pure THC, but its a lot closer than combusted flower.


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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: illa]
    #19263612 - 12/11/13 11:48 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I experienced the same thing for like two days after a high indulgence on green dragon.
After about two days it seemed to have calmed right down. With in a week it was gone, except for paranoia anxiety attacks, but they onley lasted about a week more.


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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: illa]
    #19268381 - 12/12/13 10:21 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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illa said:
What about hash? Or vaporizing herb? Sure it's not 100% pure THC, but its a lot closer than combusted flower.







Hash is the essence of the plant, not just THC, so you're still getting the entire spectrum of cananbinoids & terps even if the over all ratio of THC is a bit higher. I guess it would depend on what type of hash, and if it's hash extracted with a solvent it probably would depend on the solvent that's used, but most of the goods should be there.


Even more of the spectrum is obtained when vaporizing compared to  smoking. Because with smoking, some of the cannabinoids and terepenes are broken down form the intense heat of combustion. With vaporizing one can control the temperature and slowly increase it to get all the oily goodness with out destroying any.


So hash and/or vaporizing is, of course, even mo' betta than smoking as far as obtaining what the plant has to offer...







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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: openmind]
    #19268410 - 12/12/13 10:28 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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openmind said:
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illa said:
What about hash? Or vaporizing herb? Sure it's not 100% pure THC, but its a lot closer than combusted flower.







Hash is the essence of the plant, not just THC, so you're still getting the entire spectrum of cananbinoids & terps even if the over all ratio of THC is a bit higher. I guess it would depend on what type of hash, and if it's hash extracted with a solvent it probably would depend on the solvent that's used, but most of the goods should be there.


Even more of the spectrum is obtained when vaporizing compared to  smoking. Because with smoking, some of the cannabinoids and terepenes are broken down form the intense heat of combustion. With vaporizing one can control the temperature and slowly increase it to get all the oily goodness with out destroying any.


So hash and/or vaporizing is, of course, even mo' betta than smoking as far as obtaining what the plant has to offer...







-OM


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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: illa]
    #19268546 - 12/12/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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illa said:
Sounds like you smoked a shit load of spice IMO



That was kinda what I was thinking.


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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: nicechrisman]
    #19276965 - 12/14/13 11:03 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks everyone who helped me out, i'm feeling a lot better now.


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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: Cycnyg]
    #19281622 - 12/15/13 10:26 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Good to hear...


So did that tingle sensation and those other odd things subside and go away completely?




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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: Cycnyg]
    #19281860 - 12/15/13 11:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

OP for what it's worth I've had similar experiences twice both times I fainted and was pretty much paralyzed off of one hit of strong weed puking , cold sweats, face flushing. inability to speak. I just chalked it up to some kind of allergic reaction. Both times the weed was grown by someone I knew I  could trust and no one else had any ill affects. Just a thought. Not to say that your re-action is the same but I do see similarities.


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Re: What do you guys think of my experience? [Re: Cycnyg]
    #19281957 - 12/16/13 12:24 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i see your bad high report and raise you my bad high report from last year http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17406866


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