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Vis0nairee
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WTF! No VEIL?! PICS
#19261132 - 12/11/13 04:19 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Whats going on here? Looks like many of the small mushrooms don't have a Veil... 
 Im just assuming its some sort of genetic mutation...
Can someone tell me more? Do I have anything to be worried about? How will I know the perfect time to harvest if there is no Veil to observe?
MY FIRST GROW! 
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: Vis0nairee]
#19261145 - 12/11/13 04:21 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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is this your clone grow? if so thats your answer
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: cronicr]
#19261154 - 12/11/13 04:24 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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cronicr said: is this your clone grow? if so thats your answer
Nope, this is my first grow. About 4 days after i first saw pins.
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: Vis0nairee]
#19261161 - 12/11/13 04:25 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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There are going to get bigger right?!
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: Vis0nairee]
#19261164 - 12/11/13 04:26 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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They may or may not get bigger. Watch the caps. If they start to go upturned, then you're done. Sorry.
I'd guess it was moisture content.
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: Vis0nairee]
#19261170 - 12/11/13 04:27 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Vis0nairee said: There are going to get bigger right?!
Not necessarily. These are likely mature, though the next flushe(s) will be much larger. I've seen this happen multiple times, typically this is a response to some sort of trauma they've experienced, sometimes from being over misted(most often), could also be low moisture in the sub(not likely), and sometimes this occurs when you flip a substrate. I have some pics to prove this if I can find them.
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: 36fuckin5]
#19261175 - 12/11/13 04:28 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Im no expert on bulk, but I'd say these look dried out. What are the conditions these grew in.
And I'd say these are done, for the most part. Not the pins, but the ones with the gills turned outwards for sure.
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: 2bittoker]
#19261191 - 12/11/13 04:31 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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regardless of your fruits for a first grow let me say a job well done
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: Tmethyl]
#19261199 - 12/11/13 04:33 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Upon closer inspection I would conclude this as being from over misting, the stipes were fully developing and had a ways to go, the caps were very immature when opening up to sporulate(a last resort, triggered by being too wet)
I'm basing this completely off experience. This is my own grow which was over misted and resulted in the same way as yours has. (later flushes were very well)
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: Tmethyl]
#19261236 - 12/11/13 04:39 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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what type of fc ya got?
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: cronicr]
#19261251 - 12/11/13 04:41 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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little mushrooms = potent trips.
Eat them, that will make you happy =)
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: Vis0nairee]
#19261264 - 12/11/13 04:43 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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There are so many little pins, barely showing. How to i go about harvesting these trays?
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: Vis0nairee]
#19261269 - 12/11/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Vis0nairee said: There are so many little pins, barely showing. How to i go about harvesting these trays?
scissors or a knife
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: cronicr]
#19261271 - 12/11/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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a SGFC made following RR's tek to the T.
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: bodhisatta]
#19261274 - 12/11/13 04:44 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Vis0nairee said: a SGFC made following RR's tek to the T.
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bodhisatta said:
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Vis0nairee said: There are so many little pins, barely showing. How to i go about harvesting these trays?
scissors or a knife
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: Tmethyl]
#19261280 - 12/11/13 04:46 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said: Upon closer inspection I would conclude this as being from over misting, the stipes were fully developing and had a ways to go, the caps were very immature when opening up to sporulate(a last resort, triggered by being too wet)
I'm basing this completely off experience. This is my own grow which was over misted and resulted in the same way as yours has. (later flushes were very well)

So you think if a harvest these and mist less on the next flushes i will have larger fruits?
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: Camtaro420]
#19261288 - 12/11/13 04:48 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Camtaro420 said: little mushrooms = potent trips.
Eat them, that will make you happy =)
seriously considering it. im sad right now lol.
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: Vis0nairee]
#19261303 - 12/11/13 04:50 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Vis0nairee said:
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Camtaro420 said: little mushrooms = potent trips.
Eat them, that will make you happy =)
seriously considering it. im sad right now lol.
Nothing at all to be sad about I would be ecstatic to have some clean looking shrooms to try out like that for my first time, so far I have only grown bacteria!
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: Camtaro420]
#19261331 - 12/11/13 04:54 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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honestly those are probly pretty dense and as i said above it's still a job well done
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Re: WTF! No VEIL?! PICS [Re: cronicr]
#19261357 - 12/11/13 04:58 PM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea they're pretty nice, short and stout but there's plenty of them. Just cut them close to the base and try not to fuck the substrate up at all. alternatively you can twist and pull but cutting is usually more neat and less damaging.
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