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DirtyTomFlint
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
#19260428 - 12/11/13 02:18 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Because I am Half-Chinese Half-British, grew up in Hong Kong, went to a local Chinese school for eight years, then went to an international American school for High School. I'm in Canada now, and I know a great deal about Western and East-Asian cultures.
It's not about IQ, or language, or whatever, though you can say they play certain factors, they are certainly not as major as the following:
Western cultures adopt an individualist way of life, while most Asian cultures adopt a collectivist way of life. People growing up in an Asian culture-dominant environment tend to be less rebellious, more hard-working, but less able to think critically and innovate. It is the exact opposite in Western cultures.
Obviously, this is a vast generalization. But so is the generalization that Asians are good at math, they have small dicks, etc lol.
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Those of you who are Asian and are planning on arguing back and saying "no i can think critically im not stupid", please take this with a grain of salt. Obviously, if you are on this forum and able to communicate with perfectly fine English you have received some form of Westernization. You weren't/aren't completely submerged in an Asian cultured environment. Nor am I even saying that Asian cultured people are stupid.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: qman] 1
#19260436 - 12/11/13 02:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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qman said: How do you explain their shitty driving skills?
The Japanese are some of the most skilled drivers I've ever seen. Way better than Americans.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Mescalean] 2
#19260439 - 12/11/13 02:19 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mescalean said: How is this trying to spark intelligent discussion? It's just border line racist.
Looking for explanations of differences in regional development is racist? Nice world you're living in.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: ThatKidWithTheFace]
#19260454 - 12/11/13 02:22 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said: You guys can shit all over this if you want. I don't care
I try to bring intelligent discussion to the Pub, that's all.
Feel free to go to the "I took 2N-24js-bome" threads.
I honestly enjoyed your post
I agree. I guess people feel more inclined to post a reply if they disagree.
 I do understand the counter arguments though.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: 28064212]
#19260489 - 12/11/13 02:27 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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28064212 said: I am 1.2% Asian.
Not joking.
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28064212 said: I am 1.2% Asian.
Not joking.
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28064212 said: I am 1.2% Asian.
Not joking.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: 28064212]
#19260520 - 12/11/13 02:30 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cool to read mate. Nice to think about and don't worry its not racist. Things are what they are, just keep hatred away Sounds like its simple science to me...
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Patlal] 1
#19260530 - 12/11/13 02:31 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said: You guys can shit all over this if you want. I don't care
I try to bring intelligent discussion to the Pub, that's all.
Feel free to go to the "I took 2N-24js-bome" threads.
It's great to look at the world around you and try to understand the reasons things are the way they are. The problem here isn't that, or even that you offer very one-dimensional causes for complex, nuanced differences, but that you jump to conclusions and then present them as "facts" that we should learn from.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: KremrBigSikter]
#19260576 - 12/11/13 02:37 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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KremrBigSikter said:
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Patlal said: You guys can shit all over this if you want. I don't care
I try to bring intelligent discussion to the Pub, that's all.
Feel free to go to the "I took 2N-24js-bome" threads.
It's great to look at the world around you and try to understand the reasons things are the way they are. The problem here isn't that, or even that you offer very one-dimensional causes for complex, nuanced differences, but that you jump to conclusions and then present them as "facts" that we should learn from.
Its just to show the importance of the cultural background of a country.
I could post a lot more stuff than what I just wrote but I won't. I never said it was a fact, but this comes from several studies and research of social behavior and background. I'm not saying that it's just what I wrote that explains the entire thing. But its most definitely a big part of it.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Patlal]
#19260595 - 12/11/13 02:40 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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If this is true then why are english speaking asains still good at math?
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: TrentBoyett]
#19260599 - 12/11/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: KremrBigSikter]
#19260601 - 12/11/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mescalean said: How is this trying to spark intelligent discussion? It's just border line racist.
If I were to write paragraphs about why black people hate to swim and "intelligently" relate it to crocodiles and shit in the nile I would be hung and lynched by the some of the members here.
I don't really see him saying that there are ingrained biological factors here, just cultural and environmental ones, which I don't think is really racist. It is overly simplistic though, Asia is so huge and there are so many different cultures from Mongolians herders to Tibetan Buddhists to Chinese billionaires to Muslims.
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KremrBigSikter said: Well our ancestors were lazy wheat-farmers, so what do we know?
I think a good portion of traditional caucausians were warrior cultures that would maybe fish/farm/herd a bit but also would raid more productive areas to the south. This lead them to think they were superior based on the idea that might is right, but you could also look at them as more parasitic to humanity as a whole, which certainly isn't admirable.
So in my thinking the reason "white" people are so good at imperialism is that they come from more inhospitable places where they have to steal to get by. I'm pretty sure that the genetic code which causes a distinct lack of melanin evolved due to certain nutritional deficits.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Shroomism] 1
#19260625 - 12/11/13 02:45 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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qman said: How do you explain their shitty driving skills?
The Japanese are some of the most skilled drivers I've ever seen. Way better than Americans.
I was trying to bait the OP into offering his "explanation", it appears he has been discouraged about the path this thread has taken.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: moonrockmushy]
#19260635 - 12/11/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is all bullshit.
The reason asians are good at math is because their parents will cut their hands off if they receive a B in school.
I hate this misguided (there's an environmental reason for everything!) circular logic.
I've seen plenty of asians who were absolute retards when it came to basic math. Difference? Their parent's smoked pot.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Konichiwaffle] 2
#19260641 - 12/11/13 02:48 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Konichiwaffle said: Their parent's smoked pot.
theres no way this could be true cause asians don't smoke pot they pick rice thats why they are good at math
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: NWlight]
#19260652 - 12/11/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: moonrockmushy]
#19260653 - 12/11/13 02:50 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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moonrockmushy said:
I think a good portion of traditional caucausians were warrior cultures that would maybe fish/farm/herd a bit but also would raid more productive areas to the south. This lead them to think they were superior based on the idea that might is right, but you could also look at them as more parasitic to humanity as a whole, which certainly isn't admirable.
So in my thinking the reason "white" people are so good at imperialism is that they come from more inhospitable places where they have to steal to get by. I'm pretty sure that the genetic code which causes a distinct lack of melanin evolved due to certain nutritional deficits.
You can't have whole societies that depend on stealing, though. The huns and mongols did it, but they had to expand their empires and they eventually collapsed, as plunder isn't a renewable resource. I can't think of a pre-colonial point in history where a significant amount of caucasians were dependant on raiding and stealing from non-caucasians.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: moonrockmushy]
#19260669 - 12/11/13 02:53 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mescalean said: How is this trying to spark intelligent discussion? It's just border line racist.
If I were to write paragraphs about why black people hate to swim and "intelligently" relate it to crocodiles and shit in the nile I would be hung and lynched by the some of the members here.
I don't really see him saying that there are ingrained biological factors here, just cultural and environmental ones, which I don't think is really racist. It is overly simplistic though, Asia is so huge and there are so many different cultures from Mongolians herders to Tibetan Buddhists to Chinese billionaires to Muslims.
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KremrBigSikter said: Well our ancestors were lazy wheat-farmers, so what do we know?
I think a good portion of traditional caucausians were warrior cultures that would maybe fish/farm/herd a bit but also would raid more productive areas to the south. This lead them to think they were superior based on the idea that might is right, but you could also look at them as more parasitic to humanity as a whole, which certainly isn't admirable.
So in my thinking the reason "white" people are so good at imperialism is that they come from more inhospitable places where they have to steal to get by. I'm pretty sure that the genetic code which causes a distinct lack of melanin evolved due to certain nutritional deficits.
"but you could also look at them as more parasitic to humanity as a whole, which certainly isn't admirable."
Really, being smart and innovative enough to develop weapons and war plans is not admirable? It was conquer or be conquered, only the strong survive, maybe you just hate white culture, history, and people.
"lack of melanin evolved due to certain nutritional deficits."
Source?
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: Konichiwaffle] 1
#19260677 - 12/11/13 02:55 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Why are they good at math?
They must be smarter or have a higher IQ right? Actually, Asians have similar IQ then whites, so it's not that. Intelligence is too vague to describe so we can't take that into consideration.
The answer is their languages.
Why are they hard workers?
The answer is quite simple: rice.
Why are they so crowded?
Guess what... it's rice too.
Sources please. Especially for the second one, which feels like a very weak conjecture. Also, for the first one, math is based on logic more than numbers.
Meh. The structure of language is important to human cognition. We actually think by speaking to ourselves in our native language. When numbers have weird structures in the language, you could handicap its speakers - think about the French. Think about OP and this retarded thread
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Konichiwaffle said: This is all bullshit.
The reason asians are good at math is because their parents will cut their hands off if they receive a B in school.
I hate this misguided (there's an environmental reason for everything!) circular logic.
I've seen plenty of asians who were absolute retards when it came to basic math. Difference? Their parent's smoked pot.
Yeah. Nurture. Nature is important when you are talking about individuals,. It doesn't really apply to entire populations. That us culture, ie nurture.
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You can't have whole societies that depend on stealing, though. The huns and mongols did it, but they had to expand their empires and they eventually collapsed, as plunder isn't a renewable resource. I can't think of a pre-colonial point in history where a significant amount of caucasians were dependant on raiding and stealing from non-caucasians.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: koods]
#19260693 - 12/11/13 02:57 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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You can't have whole societies that depend on stealing, though. The huns and mongols did it, but they had to expand their empires and they eventually collapsed, as plunder isn't a renewable resource. I can't think of a pre-colonial point in history where a significant amount of caucasians were dependant on raiding and stealing from non-caucasians.
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Re: Why are Asians some good at math? Why are they hard workers? Why are they so crowded? Here's why: [Re: KremrBigSikter]
#19260711 - 12/11/13 03:03 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Vikings were equal opportunity pillagers.
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